Cole Strange

[h0c2000]

It's not a laugh matter sean!

 

[Joey007]

While I know we signed Levrett, I do wonder if another vet gets added into the guard mix. Still several quality options at that position in FA.

An older cheap vet like Mark Glowinski could be worth a look.

 

[203Pat]

"Month to Month"....lol

When it comes to playing well and actually playing, I'm not counting on him at all.

When he was a rookie and before he was hurt he was up and down. It's on him to perform but he hasn't exactly had the best coaching or best talent on offense surrounding him.

Anything he does well or at all is a bonus.

This is where I am at with Strange. When he plays he's average and at this point they have plenty of interior offensive linemen on the roster and by the law of averages one of them will probably be equivalent to Strange in terms of production. I see people penciling in Strange as a starter just because he has been in the past but he now is playing for a regime that didn't draft him, he has a lot more competition, and he is coming off a major injury. In my opinion, he is just as likely to get cut at some point this season as he is to be a starter again.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

That's one lol. I still stand by, I'd rather use those premium picks on tackles, and even center is okay. I don't think a guard is worth a first round pick in all but rare circumstances.

Sometimes premium guards even hit FA. What great tackle in the prime of their career that wasn't injury prone, has ever hit FA? It doesn't happen.

You also rarely find great tackles at the end of R1, so it is a false equivalent. Top LT, CB, QB, WR and EDGE are almost always gone before the end of R1. You can find a LT project at the end of R1, but those guys are not guaranteed .

 

[203Pat]

You also rarely find great tackles at the end of R1, so it is a false equivalent. Top LT, CB, QB, WR and EDGE are almost always gone before the end of R1. You can find a LT project at the end of R1, but those guys are not guaranteed .

Anton Harrison, Tyler Smith, Christian Darrisaw, Austin Jackson, Tytus Howard, and Kaleb McGary. All taken in the late first in the last 5 drafts (excluding 2024) and all are good to great tackles. This notion that you can't find good players at the end of round one is just laughable.

 

[Real fan 02]

Hernandez-Hold my beer.

Oh no you can't top me says Henry ruggs..

 

[Real fan 02]

Strange and Jimmy G should open a rehab clinic. That's what they'll be known for more than anything else.

Jimmy glass has made more money NOT playing football then actually on the field. What an agent huh...

 

[Real fan 02]

Regarding Cole Strange he won't be getting his Starting job back welcome Siddy Sow.

Can we get the draft pick back?

 

[Real fan 02]

Got buckled.

Wasn't it a leg whip or something?

 

[Toofy]

Reading reddit and the contemplation that it is a patellar tendon tear coupled with acl they say it's minimum 8-10 months to recover with inability to regain strength again.

So it looks like we are done with strange . Strange is in harry territory- marginally better but worse off than wynn.

Our last few first rounders ranked from best to worst . (Gonzo and maye yet to be rated.)

Michel , Mac, wynn, strange , Harry

2nd rounder

Barmore, dugger, uche,

and rest cannot even be rated ( Thornton, Cyrus Jones, Jordan Richards, duke Dawson, joejuan )


Wow .. what a mess we inherited..

 

[Brotherblues]

Eh. I did love Ras-I the player if he stayed healthy, though. Like I get the gamble there, it just didn't pay off.

You really are just rolling the dice on those injury situations sometimes. Sometimes you end up with Gronk.

Or DK Metcalf. Worth a shot after the first 40 picks or so.

Out until mid season. The hell happened to his knee

I recall it happened in practice on his birthday. He got hurt, was devastated because it felt serious, but he was desperate to get back in... and someone effed up bad letting him. He later mentioned something like it was a "great birthday gift" that he could finish the practice.

I don't want to say that decision "ruined his career" but it certainly has made it a LOT more difficult.

 

[sb1]

Reading reddit and the contemplation that it is a patellar tendon tear coupled with acl they say it's minimum 8-10 months to recover with inability to regain strength again.

So it looks like we are done with strange . Strange is in harry territory- marginally better but worse off than wynn.

Our last few first rounders ranked from best to worst . (Gonzo and maye yet to be rated.)

Michel , Mac, wynn, strange , Harry

2nd rounder

Barmore, dugger, uche,

and rest cannot even be rated ( Thornton, Cyrus Jones, Jordan Richards, duke Dawson, joejuan )


Wow .. what a mess we inherited..

Seems like 4-13 and a coach/GM firing is the only logical final chapter to all of that.

Nothing is for sure with Gonzo either. Not a lock to be great. Showed promise last season then got hurt. He's still just a promising prospect as he was last year and that's it until we see more from him.

 

[upstater1]

Or DK Metcalf. Worth a shot after the first 40 picks or so.

I recall it happened in practice on his birthday. He got hurt, was devastated because it felt serious, but he was desperate to get back in... and someone effed up bad letting him. He later mentioned something like it was a "great birthday gift" that he could finish the practice.

I don't want to say that decision "ruined his career" but it certainly has made it a LOT more difficult.

Happened during a game.

With him in there, the Patriots reeled off 4 straight 100+ yard rushing games. Then he was leg whipped to the knee.

 

[Froob]

You also rarely find great tackles at the end of R1, so it is a false equivalent. Top LT, CB, QB, WR and EDGE are almost always gone before the end of R1. You can find a LT project at the end of R1, but those guys are not guaranteed .

It’s not. Tackle is unequivocally harder to find quality players than guard. You basically have to draft them.

 

[RobertWeathers]

This is where I am at with Strange. When he plays he's average and at this point they have plenty of interior offensive linemen on the roster and by the law of averages one of them will probably be equivalent to Strange in terms of production. I see people penciling in Strange as a starter just because he has been in the past but he now is playing for a regime that didn't draft him, he has a lot more competition, and he is coming off a major injury. In my opinion, he is just as likely to get cut at some point this season as he is to be a starter again.

Yep or they IR him and kick the can down the road.

 

[catent]

Yeah right lol? They risk their health for a huge paycheck. They'd all do the same thing if they got the same contracts and the games were held in Area 51 and never shown to the public. Not saying I don't respect the grind they go through, but they aren't thinking about the fans entertainment when they take big hits.

There are absolutely some players who are incentivized or drawn to the sport - and otherwise wouldn’t be - without the spectacle around the sport, the viewing experience, the social/public/cultural element.

I don’t think those are mutually exclusive concepts, anyway. Sport is fundamentally rooted in entertainment, and the entertainment is what pulls revenue and allows for salaries the players are paid.

If players played behind closed doors, out of the public eye, they’d never be paid a fraction of what they make now. That said, it is a fun thought experiment, and if somehow they were able to pay them millions of dollars to play behind closed doors, yes, I expect many still would, but not all.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

It’s not. Tackle is unequivocally harder to find quality players than guard. You basically have to draft them.

I agree that you have to draft tackles. I also advocate BPA over forcing picks on "premier" positions. There is not always an obvious great tackle available. It is like the Polk pick this year. Polk might be a good WR, a more athletic Jakobi Meyers, but do you force that pick over Cooper Dejean or Kool-aid McKinstry? When I question the pick posters think I am a hater (or at least that is what they post). The difference between a good and great player is not small in the NFL. I would ALWAYS take a great player over a good player at a position of need.

 

[The Gr8est]

I agree that you have to draft tackles. I also advocate BPA over forcing picks on "premier" positions. There is not always an obvious great tackle available. It is like the Polk pick this year. Polk might be a good WR, a more athletic Jakobi Meyers, but do you force that pick over Cooper Dejean or Kool-aid McKinstry? When I question the pick posters think I am a hater (or at least that is what they post). The difference between a good and great player is not small in the NFL. I would ALWAYS take a great player over a good player at a position of need.

It is still to be determined which of those players are good or great,

Or even busts.

 

[203Pat]

I agree that you have to draft tackles. I also advocate BPA over forcing picks on "premier" positions. There is not always an obvious great tackle available. It is like the Polk pick this year. Polk might be a good WR, a more athletic Jakobi Meyers, but do you force that pick over Cooper Dejean or Kool-aid McKinstry? When I question the pick posters think I am a hater (or at least that is what they post). The difference between a good and great player is not small in the NFL. I would ALWAYS take a great player over a good player at a position of need.

Sorry but I would rather have a B+ tackle than an A level guard if I need a tackle.

 

[TomPatriot]

It's not a laugh matter sean!

Uh, yeah but . . . The next year McVay selected Steve Avila, a center, at 36, a few spots below where Strange was selected the year before. They moved him to G and he hasn’t exactly set the world on fire.