Player Signing Patriots Signing DT Armon Watts

[TommyD4207]

Not every player the Pats sign has to be an All Pro.

No. But one of them, once in a while, would be nice.

 

[Pape]

I know Bill isn’t here, I’m just saying that just because we don’t know them it doesn’t mean it’s a bad signing. I didn’t know who Takitaki was but I liked that signing as well. Finding the good unheralded players on opposing teams, and signing them to good deals is great quality in a front office.

I'll bite Ivan, those Watt brothers turned out to be pretty ok ball players... I'm in...

 

[vicspats]

I know Bill isn’t here, I’m just saying that just because we don’t know them it doesn’t mean it’s a bad signing. I didn’t know who Takitaki was but I liked that signing as well. Finding the good unheralded players on opposing teams, and signing them to good deals is great quality in a front office.

As long as they pan out .. cause if they don’t then we are in the same boat …. Swing and a missssss!!

 

[signbabybrady]

 

[Huckleberry1]

As long as they pan out .. cause if they don’t then we are in the same boat …. Swing and a missssss!!

Except that the deals are just average, so you don’t take the kind of hit the Titans will take if Ridley busts. And you are never going to hit on every signing, you just want to hit on as many as you can.

 

[Pape]

He seems like a decent fatty to have next to Barmore and Wise.

my soul aches for a big man like Wilfork to pair with Barmore...

 

[Huckleberry1]

my soul aches for a big man like Wilfork to pair with Barmore...

I keep wishing for T’Vondre Sweat, all 366 lbs of him. Teams simply could not double team both of them.

 

[ausbacker]

I don't see him as a run stuffer, the Steelers used him as a situational pass rusher on long downs.

It doesn't matter what role he plays. The D-Line needs rotational pieces and he's one.

Why people seem to think this team can be fixed in one offseason is beyond my understanding. At minimum, the Pats are a 3 year project.

 

[TommyD4207]

The last top-of-the-market player the Patriots signed in Free Agency was Steph Gilmore. That was before the 2017 season, 7 years ago.

 

[TommyD4207]

It doesn't matter what role he plays. The D-Line needs rotational pieces and he's one.

Why people seem to think this team can be fixed in one offseason is beyond my understanding. At minimum, the Pats are a 3 year project.

True.
But they have to get *better* in those 3 years. Running it back with dumpster trash and the same players that were ON the 4-13 team isn't improving anything, except for Bob Kraft's bottom line.

 

[Joey007]

It doesn't matter what role he plays. The D-Line needs rotational pieces and he's one.

Why people seem to think this team can be fixed in one offseason is beyond my understanding. At minimum, the Pats are a 3 year project.

Okay, by 3 years are you saying 3 years to become a Super Bowl contender? Or to be able to make the playoffs?

I don’t agree with the second. Recent history has told us that the notion that it takes 3-4 years to rebuild into a playoff team is bs.

 

[ausbacker]

True.
But they have to get *better* in those 3 years. Running it back with dumpster trash and the same players that were ON the 4-13 team isn't improving anything, except for Bob Kraft's bottom line.

I'd like to see us return to becoming perennial playoffs contenders. From there, whatever will be will be.

Okay, by 3 years are you saying 3 years to become a Super Bowl contender? Or to be able to make the playoffs?

I don’t agree with the second. Recent history has told us that the notion that it takes 3-4 years to rebuild into a playoff team is bs.

You're welcome to that opinion. Until the Pats unearth their generational QB, filling in the roster with potential building blocks is all we can ask. That isn't going to happen in one offseason.

 

[Real fan 02]

never heard of him

would have preferred to keep Lawrence Guy, if what @Ross12 says is true

Soild player, was in pitts rotation, he's a quality player excellent against the run.

 

[Real fan 02]

Is he more a pass rusher or a run stuffer?

Run stuffer

 

[Joey007]

I'd like to see us return to becoming perennial playoffs contenders. From there, whatever will be will be.



You're welcome to that opinion. Until the Pats unearth their generational QB, filling in the roster with potential building blocks is all we can ask. That isn't going to happen in one offseason.

I’m not saying everything will be solved in one offseason. But you can get back to playing competitive football pretty fast. No reason not to become competitive much sooner.

 

[reflexblue]

Per Pelissero:

Whoa, whoa, whoa nelly. you mean the Immortal Amen Watts?

 

[ausbacker]

I’m not saying everything will be solved in one offseason. But you can get back to playing competitive football pretty fast. No reason not to become competitive much sooner.

I never said they couldn't be competitive, I said the rebuild is at minimum, a 3 year project. With better QB play, I fully expect the Pats to improve along your line of thinking.

 

[Hugepatsfan]

I’m not saying everything will be solved in one offseason. But you can get back to playing competitive football pretty fast. No reason not to become competitive much sooner.

We were 4-13 last year but 8 of the losses were by 1 score or less. Last year we were a bad and untalented team, but competitive week to week.

This year, my expectation is that we'll still be bad, but hopefully not as untalented. Hopefully we have some young guys "breakout" to varying degrees like we did with Barmore and Jennings last year. Hopefully Pop Douglas emerges as a really solid slot. Gonzalez comes back to be a true #1 CB. Keion White emerges in year 2. Bourne back from injury and hopefully looks like he did in year 1 here. Strange and/or Sow emerge as locked in, full time players. That type of thing. And then hopefully we nail multiple picks in the draft. Again, we'll still be pretty bad (picking top 5-10), but hopefully still competitive week to week and hopefully with a few more guys you identify as pieces to move forward with.

Then next year, you have another draft to hopefully nail some picks and another year of big cap space where hopefully you can go for more outside acquisitions after focusing on re-signing this year. That's a year you hope to be at or above 500 and maybe push for the playoffs.

I'd like to see them spend the rest of this offseason trying for deals like Antonio Gibson. Sign a slew of 25-27 year old players that have shown flashes to multi year deals and hopefully a few of them stick as good value signings to lock in some positions/roles moving forward, even if not stars.

 

[Since1960]

The good news is with $50m left under the cap if the guy doesn’t work out we can sign 16 more just like him!

 

[TomPatriot]

Idk. Seems like he compliments Barmore on the interior pass rush.