What about Steve Belichick

[*ChungFu*]

Both Belichick boys need to move on and prove they aren't nepo hires.

Will be good for them if they're competent.

No one respected Kyle Shanahan when he worked for his dad.

Well someone respected him. Turned out to be the smart one too.

 

[Rob0729]

Steve and Brian could leave out of respect to their father. If even only 10% of the Wickersham article is true, they may feel they are disrespecting their father working for the Krafts. Same if the fallout between Bill and Mayo is true.

Steve and Mayo are friends. So I can see him working for Mayo otherwise. He really needs to get out from his dad’s shadow if he ever wants to advance.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Both Belichick boys need to move on and prove they aren't nepo hires.

Agree.

No one respected Kyle Shanahan when he worked for his dad.

Disagree with this. Before working with his Dad, the Texans were 3rd and 4th in the NFL in total yards in his two years as an OC.

 

[Kasmir]

Agree.

Disagree with this. Before working with his Dad, the Texans were 3rd and 4th in the NFL in total yards in his two years as an OC.

Sure, but his rep was damaged by his time in Washington with his dad.

 

[n1997y]

Nope. Literally nobody in the NFL will hire him to DC (one of 3 top coaching positions in a team) because nobody can actually trust his role was due to competence and not fatherly love.

They can look at the results, and they know what he did and what Mayo did. The two of them worked together as equals and Mayo earned his HC job with that setup. Folks around the league will see and hear all the scuttlebutt and they’ll know how Stevie did.

that said, I don’t expect it will matter. I think Mayo will keep Steve, one way or another. Mayo most of all knows what Steve contributed. We will see how it plays out, but my gut feeling is Steve will be on his staff.

 

[PF_SU]

Disagree with this. Before working with his Dad, the Texans were 3rd and 4th in the NFL in total yards in his two years as an OC.

He was working under Gary Kubiak who was OC for his father for 11 years. You can just as easily make a case that Kyle Shanahan's hire as the Texans WR coach with subsequent quick promotions to QB coach and OC was a "nepo hire" as with Steve Belichick. And yet ultimately that didn't stop the Browns and Falcons from hiring Shanahan as OC, even though his 4 years in Washington under his father yielded a competent offense only once. So I wouldn't rule out Steve Belichick potentially getting an interview / shot somewhere should there be an opening and he choose to do so. Teams will do their due diligence instead of just blindly saying, since he got hired by his father he has no competence.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Steve and Brian could leave out of respect to their father. If even only 10% of the Wickersham article is true, they may feel they are disrespecting their father working for the Krafts. Same if the fallout between Bill and Mayo is true.

Steve and Mayo are friends. So I can see him working for Mayo otherwise. He really needs to get out from his dad’s shadow if he ever wants to advance.

That's a really good point.

They just might leave because of their dad. With that said Bill might tell them it's ok to stay.

 

[HSanders]

He earned his experience and is also a very good former NFL player. Steve is in the NFL and a Pats coach because and only because of his father.

Ridiculous and disingenuous comparison.

so steve is a coach who didn't work his way through the ranks? he was just installed as playcaller? ignorant comment.

 

[nextsuperstar]

Nope. Literally nobody in the NFL will hire him to DC (one of 3 top coaching positions in a team) because nobody can actually trust his role was due to competence and not fatherly love.

His defenses performed well. NFL teams have the ability to judge how well his unit performed. He’s also worked with various current and former coaches and they can speak to his individual abilities.

Just because he got his first job because of a family connection, does not mean he has no ability.

 

[RIpats88]

the defense has been good. whether thats steve/mayo or Bill who knows. but if he is willing to stay, id keep him and promote him to DC.

would be kind of odd since they got rid of his dad. but who knows he may want to step out of his dad's shadow. I mean who wants to just work with their dad everywhere? lol

 

[Huckleberry1]

I’m hoping he stays. The defense played really well last season, and keeping him would bring continuity and allow them to really focus on the most important team needs, which are offensive. If he’s leaving I think we will know very soon, I don’t think it will be a matter of him staying for the next few weeks, and then leaving when Bill gets a new job. The Patriots need to take advantage of the window that comes with the other coaches teams having to wait to interview. They have about 2-3 weeks to hire coaches before their competitors will be going after them, so they should take advantage of that window to their best ability.

 

[ahmed]

His defenses performed well. NFL teams have the ability to judge how well his unit performed. He’s also worked with various current and former coaches and they can speak to his individual abilities.

Just because he got his first job because of a family connection, does not mean he has no ability.

Every job is because of that connection though. That is different. No HC will risk his career and make him DC unless it's Mayo since he has worked with him.

 

[ahmed]

so steve is a coach who didn't work his way through the ranks? he was just installed as playcaller? ignorant comment.

Lol - I said every job he had was given by his father. That is not earning anything.

 

[ahmed]

They can look at the results, and they know what he did and what Mayo did. The two of them worked together as equals and Mayo earned his HC job with that setup. Folks around the league will see and hear all the scuttlebutt and they’ll know how Stevie did.

that said, I don’t expect it will matter. I think Mayo will keep Steve, one way or another. Mayo most of all knows what Steve contributed. We will see how it plays out, but my gut feeling is Steve will be on his staff.

I said the only one who may hire him as DC, other than Bill, is Mayo because he knows what he did. Nobody else does and will. We will see.

 

[HSanders]

Lol - I said every job he had was given by his father. That is not earning anything.

mayo has less coaching experience than steve does. steve started in 2012 vs mayo in 2019. steve did the same gruntwork bill has all his "through the ranks" guys do. mayo didn't.
ignorant comment

 

[mgteich]

I said the only one who may hire him as DC, other than Bill, is Mayo because he knows what he did. Nobody else does and will. We will see.

As of now, there is an opening at DC. We should hire Steve. That might convince him to stay and then we won't have any major coaching holes created on Defense.

 

[Peachhead]

I imagine he'll depart to be DC on Bill's next destination. If he chooses to stay I think he's the obvious choice as the Pats' DC.

 

[nextsuperstar]

I said the only one who may hire him as DC, other than Bill, is Mayo because he knows what he did. Nobody else does and will. We will see.

No one knows what he did? Everyone knows he was responsible for calling plays. Everyone watches the film and sees those plays work and how the defense performs. Saying that “no one knows what he did” is calling everyone in the NFL incompetent.

Besides, McDaniels, Daboll, Flores, Patricia, and many other coaches not employed by the Patriots have worked with him. We all know they pick up the phone and talk.

 

[ahmed]

mayo has less coaching experience than steve does. steve started in 2012 vs mayo in 2019. steve did the same gruntwork bill has all his "through the ranks" guys do. mayo didn't.
ignorant comment

Factual. Every single job he had in NFL was given to him by his father.

Mayo's 8 years as a player at a high level count less than grunt work? Lol sure

 

[HSanders]

Factual. Every single job he had in NFL was given to him by his father.

Mayo's 8 years as a player at a high level count less than grunt work? Lol sure

no his playing experience doesn't count as coaching experience. why would it?
so what? you think mike shanahan shouldn't have hired kyle? the defense is good. steve is part of why.