Mayo will be the new HC

[ahmed]

I think it only allows them to bypass the Rooney Rule if they promoted Mayo. If they wanted to hire Vrabel, they’d need to go through the proper process.

I think you can only bypass it if the hire is a minority. You can't bypass it if the promotion is not a minority.

The only time this happened I am aware of is Bucs 2 years ago.

 

[stcjones]

Everything Curran said and has said would happen, from 2022 onward has happened just like he said. There is one person who he has a relationship with in the organization that would know that much detail.

This didn't come from a ball boy or switchboard operator. This was specific, start-to-finish. And planned from the day Mayo went on-staff with the Patriots, and left 'Quick Slants'. This wasn't just reporting, this was an orchestration. And a very well done one, I have to say.

Curranostradamus

 

[MrBigglesWorth]

Succession plans never work unless your roster is stacked.... Awful decision if true... Prolonging our misery

 

[mgteich]

I wonder why Kraft held onto Bill last year if that was the case.

Belichick convinced the Kraft's that one more year of Bill would head us in the right direction.

 

[TommyD4207]

Curranostradamus

Yup, and you know, if people like myself had considered it for a minute, we probably wouldn't have gone so hard on Curran.
Of course it was Mayo, of course it was, and I'm the idiot for not even considering it.

 

[Love The Drake]

Yup, and you know, if people like myself had considered it for a minute, we probably wouldn't have gone so hard on Curran.
Of course it was Mayo, of course it was, and I'm the idiot for not even considering it.

The HC or the Media leak?

 

[TommyD4207]

The HC or the Media leak?

That Mayo was the leak. There's no one else Curran could have gotten half the **** he said from - other than Mayo.

 

[festy1986]

Succession plans never work unless your roster is stacked.... Awful decision if true... Prolonging our misery

With Tom and Bill gone, Kraft is going to feel the heat more than ever. His meat shields are gone.

 

[Love The Drake]

With Tom and Bill gone, Kraft is going to feel the heat more than ever. His meat shields are gone.

Expect him to go nuts in free agency and trade future picks to move up.

 

[TommyD4207]

With Tom and Bill gone, Kraft is going to feel the heat more than ever. His meat shields are gone.

He doesn't care, he owns the team.

 

[festy1986]

He doesn't care, he owns the team.

He cares. I also give him all the credit for taking those questions today. I thought for sure he was gonna get softballs but every question I personally had was asked and he didn't dodge a single one.

He wont sit on his hands for 4 years if Mayo shows hes out of his elements.

 

[Ring 6]

We already established that NFL coaches are 80%+ former college and NFL players and that those players are majority from minority ethnicities (mostly Black).

So you are saying a White former player is several times more likely "to want" to be a coach than a former Black player? Really?

So 30 years ago, there were no Black former players that wanted to be coaches?

No we established that a high percentage of head coaches played in college or nfl.

It appears that roughly the same proportion of white PEOPLE and black PEOPLE choose to become football coaches. I’m not “saying it” the actual statistics are.

I can’t speak to 30 years ago, but my impression is that players becoming coaches has increased a lot over that time, probably because coaches are paid better. Bill belichick started at $25 a week on a staff of like 5 coaches.


Question for you though.
If 10% of football coaches in America are black and 10% of NFL HCs are black (using nfl hc because it’s the highest level to achieve) do you see something wrong with that?

Secondly do you believe that wanting to play football and wanting to coach football is the same thing and would be all of the same people?

Lastly, do you think being good at playing football and being good at cus thing football are the same thing and would be the same people.

 

[Ring 6]

This is what I’ve been saying. Thread title misleading.

They wouldn’t give him that promise a year ago then not honor it. That would cost Kraft a lot of credibility and if he hires a white coach instead, he will
end up cancelled and maybe in court. This is a very sensitive issue.
Remember this is the old white billionaire who has had all white executives forever.

 

[mgteich]

He cares. I also give him all the credit for taking those questions today. I thought for sure he was gonna get softballs but every question I personally had was asked and he didn't dodge a single one.

He wont sit on his hands for 4 years if Mayo shows hes out of his elements.

He'll make sure that Mayo has as much help as he needs in terms of talent and in terms of management from a GM and from consultants/asst coaches as necessary.

 

[ahmed]

Question for you though.
If 10% of football coaches in America are black and 10% of NFL HCs are black (using nfl hc because it’s the highest level to achieve) do you see something wrong with that?

If 10% of NFL/college players are Black, then yes that would make sense because almost all coaches (80-90) are former players.

If 90% of coaches were never players and were just civilians then yes you could look at racial make up of the entire population. But coaches 80-90% from former players. If things were normal, you would expect coaches to be ~50-60% minorities.

Secondly do you believe that wanting to play football and wanting to coach football is the same thing and would be all of the same people?

Not the same people but the averages would hold out. You are saying Black former players are several times less likely to want to be coaches? Why? It makes no sense. The fact that their coaching ranks have increased massively since Rooney rule bears that out clearly. Or did they magically decide to want to be coaches once the Rooney rule started?

Lastly, do you think being good at playing football and being good at cus thing football are the same thing and would be the same people.

No, many examples of former players failing. But again it's about the %s.

 

[ctpatsfan77]

I think you can only bypass it if the hire is a minority. You can't bypass it if the promotion is not a minority.

The only time this happened I am aware of is Bucs 2 years ago.

As I understand it, the issue is not who the candidate is but whether there is a search process.

 

[Ring 6]

He'll make sure that Mayo has as much help as he needs in terms of talent and in terms of management from a GM and from consultants/asst coaches as necessary.

He isnt going to magically create a talented staff out of no where.
It’s easy to say it’s ok if the coach has weaknesses, we can surround him with other people. But there’s no certainty those other people are any good.

I think the next phase of this franchise is ownership is going to learn how little they understood about what made the dynasty what it was and how ill equipped they are to fill the void.
I hope I’m wrong but i predict about a 5 year period where we resemble the dysfunctional organizations we’ve seen with the jete, and other such as Cleveland, Cincinnati or Detroit at times

I would not be shocked to see us go from the most wins in the 2000s and 2010s to the fewest in the 2020s.

 

[ahmed]

As I understand it, the issue is not who the candidate is but whether there is a search process.

I dont think so. It's that 2 or 3 minority candidates must be interviewed. Todd Bowles got hired without anyone getting interviewed. Bucs were able to bypass the Rooney rule because he is a minority.

Either way Kraft will at least pretend to go through a thorough process even if it's Mayo. He will not want to look like he did not try to look properly in case whoever he hires does not work out.

 

[Mack Herron]

They wouldn’t give him that promise a year ago then not honor it. That would cost Kraft a lot of credibility and if he hires a white coach instead, he will
end up cancelled and maybe in court. This is a very sensitive issue.
Remember this is the old white billionaire who has had all white executives forever.

But he isn’t obligated to hire Mayo. Thus the IF in Rap’s post.

 

[Drunken Cicerone]

Mayo is fine if you have a great OC and a legit GM in place