If you were Kraft and this season doesn’t improve, do you move on from Bill after this season?

[Rob0729]

If the NFL is really about today and not 5 years ago, then BB should be fired now.
Let BOB take over and see what, if anything, can be salvaged this season.
BB is just tired and pissed. Clearly the players aren't motivated by his methods anymore.

As much as I think it is time to move on from Belichick, I don’t think Kraft can fire a guy who led the Pats to six Super Bowl wins, three other appearances, and many more AFCCG appearances during the season. Kraft will allow Belichick to resign in the offseason.

 

[Boomer B]

Button down the hatches, it’s a multi year storm (rebuild) we are in for.

1) replace the GM and let him bring in his own scouts
2) replace the HC and staff
3) find a QB (likely via draft)
4) find a WR 1 and WR 2
5) rebuild o-line

Multiple year rebuild on the horizon. Need to nail the drafts the next 3 seasons or so.

 

[Nikolai]

I try to be the optimist...but there are no football gods to come and save us.

Let what must be done, be done. I'm open for anything at this point.

Hey older fellas, it's just like the good 'ol days. For you younger folks, welcome to the party!

 

[sb1]

He’s 71 years old. What BB is trying to do might be too much to ask from any 71 year old. Pete Carroll is also 71 and his team is doing all right but he’s doing one job not two like BB.

Father Time comes for everyone, even coaches.

 

[lancerman]

As much as I think it is time to move on from Belichick, I don’t think Kraft can fire a guy who led the Pats to six Super Bowl wins, three other appearances, and many more AFCCG appearances during the season. Kraft will allow Belichick to resign in the offseason.

Sentimentality is what kills teams, and frankly if we can let a 6x Super Bowl winning QB go we can let Belichick go as well. He had 4 years to prove he could lead the team in the post Brady era, he's objectively failed and year 4 is somehow worse than year 1, 2 or 3. Belichick wasn't sentimental about players, Kraft shouldn't be sentimental about him.

 

[Rob0729]

Sentimentality is what kills teams, and frankly if we can let a 6x Super Bowl winning QB go we can let Belichick go as well. He had 4 years to prove he could lead the team in the post Brady era, he's objectively failed and year 4 is somehow worse than year 1, 2 or 3. Belichick wasn't sentimental about players, Kraft shouldn't be sentimental about him.

Firing Belichick in season achieves nothing. The Pats aren’t going to do any better with Mayo running things. Not with an in-season change.

Now if the year continues to spiral and he keeps Belichick after this season, that is another thing.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

WRONG. Krafty charges $5 a pop to go in his lighthouse. That cheap ****.

If you get there before 10:30 AM, you can get the early bird discount.

 

[Rob0729]

WRONG. Krafty charges $5 a pop to go in his lighthouse. That cheap ****.

They will pay off the lighthouse in like 99 years at $5 a pop.

 

[Love The Drake]

Devin Mccourty just said he doesn’t think things will
Get better in New England.

 

[Love The Drake]

Any chance we can make Tom Brady HC or team president.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

As much as I think it is time to move on from Belichick, I don’t think Kraft can fire a guy who led the Pats to six Super Bowl wins, three other appearances, and many more AFCCG appearances during the season. Kraft will allow Belichick to resign in the offseason.

We’ve all heard your many takes and opinions. Without exception, they’re all wrong, stupid, and worthless. No one gives a **** what you think or what you predict, so stop clogging up every thread with **** like it’s your personal toilet after you’ve choked down six big macs.

 

[ScottishPatriots]

As soon as Bill is fired Kraft loses his bullet proof vest when it comes to the lack of spending and offering big money contracts.

There's a good chance Bill doesn't do it because Kraft is cheap and won't let him, once Bill is gone his ways will be exposed if the Pats are still at the bottom of the league in real cash spending.

 

[Rob0729]

We’ve all heard your many takes and opinions. Without exception, they’re all wrong, stupid, and worthless. No one gives a **** what you think or what you predict, so stop clogging up every thread with **** like it’s your personal toilet after you’ve choked down six big macs.

I am always touched by you kind words. I wish I could return the favor. My only way to pay you back is keep posting and delivering the material that you seem to love. i am going to do it just for you. Love you man.

Seriously though, this ain’t your message board. If you don’t like what I have to post, be a bleeping grown up and just ignore my posts and stop acting like a freaking child.

 

[Rob0729]

Any chance we can make Tom Brady HC or team president.

I think that will interfere with his attempt to get ownership in the Raiders and his Fox gig next season.

 

[lancerman]

Firing Belichick in season achieves nothing. The Pats aren’t going to do any better with Mayo running things. Not with an in-season change.

Now if the year continues to spiral and he keeps Belichick after this season, that is another thing.

You aren't firing a coach mid season to get better. You are doing it to rip the bandaid off and get a start on the next era now rather than later. This team isn't making the playoffs anymore. They are 1-4. The season is over if competing for a Super Bowl is part of the equation.

It achieves a few things. It allows the league to know we are serious about finding a new HC and means we are going to be able to begin to line up discussions and interviews early. It allows Kraft and the front office to stop having delusions about continuing with the current regime and take a look around the league and get a sense of what is working, what isn't, and what direction they might want to go. It allows them to look at the current coaching staff sans Bill and see if anything at all is worth keeping. If Mayo wants a future as head coach, this can be his audition for it instead of going into next season blind to what he can do and then having to decide if we want to give up on him as the successor or not. We at least get some intelligence on that decision. It allows Bill to not be a lame duck and if he wants to keep coaching he can be free to start looking early and line up his own job. Most importantly, the trade deadline is at the end of the month. Bill Belichick should not be in control of team management at that time if he's not staying on next year. Bill will not have the firesale we should be having. He will not be prepping the team for a ground up rebuild. He's not going to admit that type of failure or want to start over like that. If we are serious about going into the next era, he can't be part of the things we can be doing now to prepare for that.

You need to not think about about making decisions to help save this year. There is no saving this year. You are doing things to prepare for what is to come.

 

[upstater1]

Bruh, nobody cares where he is going to end up. What we care about is who Kraft brings as a GM, coach and of course what we draft next. I could care less if BB goes elsewhere. All I want is the patriots being able to field an NFL worthy team, the way the team has been playing…they might run into issues scoring against a college team.

Are you serious? This is the board that endlessly discusses Brady's departure with recriminations?

Were you here in 2019 when most of this board thought Brady was done and wanted him gone? Night and day now. And guess what? The next target when Belichick is coaching elsewhere is Kraft. This is so 100% utterly predictable.

 

[lancerman]

Any chance we can make Tom Brady HC or team president.

No because he has an ownership stake in the Raiders. It would never be allowed.

 

[Rob0729]

You aren't firing a coach mid season to get better. You are doing it to rip the bandaid off and get a start on the next era now rather than later. This team isn't making the playoffs anymore. They are 1-4. The season is over if competing for a Super Bowl is part of the equation.

It achieves a few things. It allows the league to know we are serious about finding a new HC and means we are going to be able to begin to line up discussions and interviews early. It allows Kraft and the front office to stop having delusions about continuing with the current regime and take a look around the league and get a sense of what is working, what isn't, and what direction they might want to go. It allows them to look at the current coaching staff sans Bill and see if anything at all is worth keeping. If Mayo wants a future as head coach, this can be his audition for it instead of going into next season blind to what he can do and then having to decide if we want to give up on him as the successor or not. We at least get some intelligence on that decision. It allows Bill to not be a lame duck and if he wants to keep coaching he can be free to start looking early and line up his own job. Most importantly, the trade deadline is at the end of the month. Bill Belichick should not be in control of team management at that time if he's not staying on next year. Bill will not have the firesale we should be having. He will not be prepping the team for a ground up rebuild. He's not going to admit that type of failure or want to start over like that. If we are serious about going into the next era, he can't be part of the things we can be doing now to prepare for that.

You need to not think about about making decisions to help save this year. There is no saving this year. You are doing things to prepare for what is to come.

Kraft will never fire Belichick in season. So the argument is moot.

But unless they are going to hire someone currently not employed with another team, they cannot start the interview process until after the season. Cannot even contact coaches and front office people of other teams to let them know the Pats would want to interview them after the season.

 

[archstanton543]

You aren't firing a coach mid season to get better. You are doing it to rip the bandaid off and get a start on the next era now rather than later. This team isn't making the playoffs anymore. They are 1-4. The season is over if competing for a Super Bowl is part of the equation.

It achieves a few things. It allows the league to know we are serious about finding a new HC and means we are going to be able to begin to line up discussions and interviews early. It allows Kraft and the front office to stop having delusions about continuing with the current regime and take a look around the league and get a sense of what is working, what isn't, and what direction they might want to go. It allows them to look at the current coaching staff sans Bill and see if anything at all is worth keeping. If Mayo wants a future as head coach, this can be his audition for it instead of going into next season blind to what he can do and then having to decide if we want to give up on him as the successor or not. We at least get some intelligence on that decision. It allows Bill to not be a lame duck and if he wants to keep coaching he can be free to start looking early and line up his own job. Most importantly, the trade deadline is at the end of the month. Bill Belichick should not be in control of team management at that time if he's not staying on next year. Bill will not have the firesale we should be having. He will not be prepping the team for a ground up rebuild. He's not going to admit that type of failure or want to start over like that. If we are serious about going into the next era, he can't be part of the things we can be doing now to prepare for that.

You need to not think about about making decisions to help save this year. There is no saving this year. You are doing things to prepare for what is to come.

They're not firing BB mid-season. That's a big time show of disrespect.

I think BB has lost the team and it's time for him to go...however, the six championships buy him the rest of this season (maybe the next. That's up to Kraft) and a chance to exit respectfully.

 

[lancerman]

Kraft will never fire Belichick in season. So the argument is moot.

But unless they are going to hire someone currently not employed with another team, they cannot start the interview process until after the season. Cannot even contact coaches and front office people of other teams to let them know the Pats would want to interview them after the season.

That's fine, that doesn't make it an intelligent decision. There's no reason to have Belichick calling the shots at the trade deadline.