Jakobi Meyers ▣ Free Agency

[Bruins29]

You're a blind Homer take those rose colored sun glasses off you'll see clearer.

You are a gutless clown

 

[Since1960]

2022 will forever be dumped on because they took Cole Strange in the 1st and then Sean McVay laughed about it on camera. It is what it is. Even if Strange develops into a really good player he'll forever be considered a "reach" because McVay said so.

Edit: I realize my post makes it sound like I personally feel this way - I don't - I am saying this will be the media's narrative about this class forever. I think Strange is fine, the media "reach" narrative is way overblown.

I saw a different narrative already after this year. You mean the 2021 Super Bowl coach whose 5 - 12 team didn’t earn a playoff spot in 2022 and considered taking a hiatus from coaching. A coach tied for the lowest score in SB history and we’re concerned about a snicker because he deemed our draft pick was not a legit first rounder. “Karma” is a real “B” sometimes and my guess is not making the playoffs after winning a SB is worth more of a snicker than whether your starting guard is or isn’t worth a 1st round selection. By the way, I think he’s going to turn out the be an upper echelon guard - heck, maybe we should even give Coach Sean a call and offer him up for Jalen Ramsey, after all as bad as our offensive line was this year the Rams unit may have been even worse!

 

[TheRainMaker]

Higgins or the like seems a "final piece." We are not close enough to trade precious draft picks. Another year of two of upgrading young talent. And then bring in big guns

I agree. They should build through the draft. Take a WR in rounds 2 or 3 at the latest.

 

[PatsFan2]

With the WR market being this crazy, I don't think you could even sign a replacement for Parker's slot for 'just' 6m dollars so I find it hard to see cutting us providing any 'real' cap savings. Don't get me wrong, I'm not a huge fan of him so far. He's only made a few nice plays here and there, but what better choice do we have?

A mid level guy in FA Parker will not he hard to replaced. His arrow is pointing down I hope Thornton or Bourne pushes down the depth chart.

 

[Ollie]

I was looking at some of the draft revisits and they have pegged our 2022 draft class as underwhelming with D grade around the mid 20s .

Do we tend to overvalue our drafts as compared to other teams or is it a case of draftniks undervaluing us .

Is our 2022 draft looked down more so because of on field performance which was okay and not too spectacular and faltered down the stretch.

Would this year be the year where we evaluate the draft as a whole.

2019 draft might end up being a draft where we don't have a single player left if Meyers leaves in Free agency. Possibly our worst draft in last decade.

I don't think you can rate it any higher at this time but i think Strange, Jack Jones, Marcus Jones and Zappe were decent picks who will contribute. Pierre Strong looked decent towards the end of the year and Tyquan whilst looking a bit our of his depth gets a slight pass as i'm not sure it's fair to judge anyone completely after one year and that is probably even more true of the ****show last year. It's still possible that this is a decent draft if most of the above pan out. Big if for Thornton though.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

I don't think you can rate it any higher at this time but i think Strange, Jack Jones, Marcus Jones and Zappe were decent picks who will contribute. Pierre Strong looked decent towards the end of the year and Tyquan whilst looking a bit our of his depth gets a slight pass as i'm not sure it's fair to judge anyone completely after one year and that is probably even more true of the ****show last year. It's still possible that this is a decent draft if most of the above pan out. Big if for Thornton though.

Mitchell, Roberts, Hines, and Harris were all slight contributors as well. Russey and Steuber will be competing this year for back up spots. A few could be regular contributors in 2024.

 

[Ollie]

Mitchell, Roberts, Hines, and Harris were all slight contributors as well. Russey and Steuber will be competing this year for back up spots. A few could be regular contributors in 2024.

Agreed, I think there are reasons to be optimistic for last years draft

 

[Ross12]

Mitchell, Roberts, Hines, and Harris were all slight contributors as well. Russey and Steuber will be competing this year for back up spots. A few could be regular contributors in 2024.

The problem with assessing a draft after one season is that you are really only assessing the first couple of rounds, since only the first couple rounds can reasonably be expected to have players ready to step in and start right away. Beyond that, you’re basically just looking to see if teams got lucky and randomly found players in the later rounds who were starter level or otherwise major contributors which is unlikely. A draft shouldn’t really be evaluated until 3 or 4 years later to see how the players in all rounds developed.

 

[nextsuperstar]

I saw a different narrative already after this year. You mean the 2021 Super Bowl coach whose 5 - 12 team didn’t earn a playoff spot in 2022 and considered taking a hiatus from coaching. A coach tied for the lowest score in SB history and we’re concerned about a snicker because he deemed our draft pick was not a legit first rounder. “Karma” is a real “B” sometimes and my guess is not making the playoffs after winning a SB is worth more of a snicker than whether your starting guard is or isn’t worth a 1st round selection. By the way, I think he’s going to turn out the be an upper echelon guard - heck, maybe we should even give Coach Sean a call and offer him up for Jalen Ramsey, after all as bad as our offensive line was this year the Rams unit may have been even worse!

The Rams are in cap trouble and don’t have draft picks to help them out of that trouble. So maybe he should trying to fix his team instead of laughing at what others are doing.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

The Rams are in cap trouble and don’t have draft picks to help them out of that trouble. So maybe he should trying to fix his team instead of laughing at what others are doing.

That is unlikely to happen. They chose a one hit wonder year, not the sustained excellence model. Now they have to rebuild, good luck with that. That is why McVay did his temper tantrum saying he might step away. Shed salary and get a few draft picks, and start from the bottom. The cap is not crap - ask McVay.

 

[PatsFan2]

Yea. Losing Meyers will be a blow no question. With that said, if Meyers is getting $15m then i'd rather trade for Higgans and pay him ~$20m

The Meyers Homers you know who they are would disagree with you. They want the Patriots to pay market rate for Good not Great WR. When they can Trade for or pay market rate for a superior Receiver in 2024.

 

[Sicilian]

The Meyers Homers

Ugh, I'm not sure you understand what this word means. You seem to just use it for anyone who likes anything.

 

[RobertWeathers]

The Meyers Homers you know who they are would disagree with you. They want the Patriots to pay market rate for Good not Great WR. When they can Trade for or pay market rate for a superior Receiver in 2024.

Love Meyers too but at some point we need to stop being subjective and decide which player's talent and upside maximizes the payout and cap space.

Same reason Bill signed Gilly and not Malcolm. Reason: Gilly was the more talented, better player. Bill nailed it.

Talent-wise T-Hig is a superior talent and player than Meyers. Not even close really.

 

[Pape]

The Meyers Homers

Include me in that group... You damn straight I am going to want to hang onto guys that started at the very bottom of the pile, and boot strapped themselves up into starting roles... If you gotta pay, you pay.

 

[Bruins29]

Include me in that group... You damn straight I am going to want to hang onto guys that started at the very bottom of the pile, and boot strapped themselves up into starting roles... If you gotta pay, you pay.

You my man, understand football and the business side of it. He is just an infant.

 

[Bruins29]

The Meyers Homers you know who they are would disagree with you. They want the Patriots to pay market rate for Good not Great WR. When they can Trade for or pay market rate for a superior Receiver in 2024.

What a shocker, you are calling everyone names again.

Can we ban this embarrassment already.

 

[PatsFan2]

Love Meyers too but at some point we need to stop being subjective and decide which player's talent and upside maximizes the payout and cap space.

Same reason Bill signed Gilly and not Malcolm. Reason: Gilly was the more talented, better player. Bill nailed it.

Talent-wise T-Hig is a superior talent and player than Meyers. Not even close really.

That's what I'm saying.

 

[PatsFan2]

Ugh, I'm not sure you understand what this word means. You seem to just use it for anyone who likes anything.

I like Meyers too but not at $15Mill to $20 Mill and I don't blame Him if he goes for the money but I hope it's not at the expense of the Patriots who have many holes to fill plus some player uncertainties.

 

[Pape]

Love Meyers too but at some point we need to stop being subjective and decide which player's talent and upside maximizes the payout and cap space.

Same reason Bill signed Gilly and not Malcolm. Reason: Gilly was the more talented, better player. Bill nailed it.

Talent-wise T-Hig is a superior talent and player than Meyers. Not even close really.

Higgins is better... No doubt I would trade for him... But has Cincy shown any indication of wanting to move him? None so far... just because we want does not mean he's available...

 

[PatsFan2]

Include me in that group... You damn straight I am going to want to hang onto guys that started at the very bottom of the pile, and boot strapped themselves up into starting roles... If you gotta pay, you pay.

I know like Rob said above you pay for Elite Talent you don't pay the moon or back-up the Brinks truck for Good talent that you can find or groom.