Tom Brady says he's done "for good"

[1960Pats]

THIS. Man, it is unbelievable....

Of about roughly 7 thousand years of humanity (depending on your beliefs)..... we were lucky to be alive during the TB era....much less just happen to be Patriots fans...

I was alive to see the TB run as a Pats fan and the Russell run as a Celtics fan. Those odds must be up there.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

I’m just going to say **** Todd Bowels for pulling him in the ATL game and giving him his only losing season

I was also surprised they threw that game. Tampa’s offense looked great the week before against Carolina for maybe the first time all year and you’d figure they might want to keep that momentum going considering the major struggles they had previously.

 

[1960Pats]

Who are the Mount Rushmore of Boston sports?

Brady
Orr
Williams
Russel? Bird? Red?

The proper order is;
1-Bill
2-Tom
3-Bobby
4-Ted & Pedro

 

[yukon cornelius]

The proper order is;
1-Bill
2-Tom
3-Bobby
4-Ted & Pedro

i agree with bill at the top, for obvious reasons

i'd have ted #2.....guy gave up some of his prime to be possibly the greatest fighter pilot of his era

then tom - just for all he did on the field

bobby

 

[VectorPrime]

I'm more mad at the lesser Shanahon than anything. If he wanted Brady to helm the ship for one season as Trey Lance gets his **** together I would bet ANYTHING Brady would go there. The Darlington stuff about "It was either Tampa or retirement" is, in my opinion, obviously reflecting that he didn't have any other real options so better to say that rather than "yeah I wanted to go elsewhere but they wouldn't have me."

So with that in mind I hope the 49ers go 5-12 next season **** them.

 

[1960Pats]

Brady wanted a long term extension after both 2017 (MVP season) and 2018 (SB season). He never got one. All he got was incentive laden year to year deals. If the Pats wanted Brady, they could have had him. To say he wanted to leave is disingenuous. He was getting ****ed around by a team he led to 6 championships and once he knew he was never getting a multi year deal he went to a team who gave him one. The Pats blew it. Biggest mistake Kraft ever made.

Of course it was a mistake. And they got nothing in return and were totally unprepared for his departure.
This was also after Brady left tens of millions on the table over the years so the Pats would have more to spend on their supporting cast. Does anyone think Bill would do that? I don't.
If Brady wanted to leave he wouldn't have kept asking for multi-year contracts.
He wanted to finish his career here but Bob apparently felt that it was better to keep the pencil pusher on the sideline than the GOAT QB.

 

[1960Pats]

i agree with bill at the top, for obvious reasons

i'd have ted #2.....guy gave up some of his prime to be possibly the greatest fighter pilot of his era

then tom - just for all he did on the field

bobby

The problem for Ted with me is that he was never on a winning team.

 

[Ring 6]

First your narrative that the Pats kicked Brady out is a lie. Brady LEFT for greener pastures. He knew the Pats were going to go through ANOTHER rebuilding process and he rightfully realized that he needed to go to a team with a better roster if he was going to win #7 They DID invest in him HEAVILY from 2014-19 and put themselves in cap hell doing it.

There is one thing I always ask someone who thinks the Pats should have resigned Brady for $25MM/yr in 2020. Remember that year, with a stripped down roster already, and a QB that cost them $1MM against the cap, and they were STILL in cap hell in 2020 (not to mention that it WOULD have been even worse if Covid hadn't happened and HIghtower, Chung, etc had to count against the cap). Who ELSE would have had to go in order to give Tom his money.

No it made NO sense at all for Tom and it made no sense for the Pats. The PR could have gone better, I guess, but as a football decision, the CORRECT move was made by BOTH parties.

The 2019 team had deteriorated to not good enough as fallout of going all in.
Had Brady stayed the 2020 team would have undoubtedly been worse, because there was no money to bring in any players.
The 2021 free agent spending that got them back to the playoffs would have been $50 million less (about 12 instead of 62) had Brady stayed so there would have been more degrading of the roster.
Could the team have been better with Brady and a deteriorating roster than without him? Maybe. Would it have been a real SB contender? Not a chance.
I think we saw in Tampa this year what 2020-2022 would have resembled if Brady stayed.
Really the only reason to bemoan Brady leaving is being sad he didn’t play his whole career here, but there were not going to be any more rings, simple logic makes that obvious.

 

[1960Pats]

I'm more mad at the lesser Shanahon than anything. If he wanted Brady to helm the ship for one season as Trey Lance gets his **** together I would bet ANYTHING Brady would go there. The Darlington stuff about "It was either Tampa or retirement" is, in my opinion, obviously reflecting that he didn't have any other real options so better to say that rather than "yeah I wanted to go elsewhere but they wouldn't have me."

So with that in mind I hope the 49ers go 5-12 next season **** them.

I always root against the 49ers.

I took Brady's comment to mean that HE didn't want to play anywhere other than Tampa, not that teams weren't interested. That probably had to do with the location of his children.

 

[yukon cornelius]

The problem for Ted with me is that he was never on a winning team.

greatest pure hitter of all time.......

 

[yukon cornelius]

greatest pure hitter of all time.......

one hell of a fly fisherman, too, lol

 

[Triumph]

If this is it for real this time I might not watch football again. I used to spend all day Sunday watching games now I don't even care to catch any live action anymore. For the better part of my life I got to hang on and watch greatness, which really helped because my life outside of those moments was less than ideal. I knew this was coming down the pipe sooner rather than later but I really thought there would be one last hurrah seeing how things ended this year. My biggest regret is that in all these I never actually going to a game to see him or the team in action. I'm sad that it's over but extremely grateful for the journey.

I went to 7 Super Bowls.

Only got inside the door for both Giants losses. Watched the game at a bar with other Pats fans for the other 5.

 

[Bruins29]

The proper order is;
1-Bill
2-Tom
3-Bobby
4-Ted & Pedro

First of all, if there is any "&" its Bird. But I assume you are doing this by sport only. Second I would put Ortiz over Martinez after Ted. Ortiz played in Boston twice as long and Martinez. DO WAS the face of the team for many years. His "This is Our fkkking City" alone makes him a much better candidate to represent the face of Boston.

 

[Triumph]

one hell of a fly fisherman, too, lol

They said that he could go on a 5 minute cursing rant and not repeat the same swear twice.

 

[yukon cornelius]

They said that he could go on a 5 minute cursing rant and not repeat the same swear twice.

oh, he was at times a questionable human being for sure

 

[yukon cornelius]

First of all, if there is any "&" its Bird. But I assume you are doing this by sport only. Second I would put Ortiz over Martinez after Ted. Ortiz played in Boston twice as long and Martinez. DO WAS the face of the team for many years. His "This is Our fkkking City" alone makes him a much better candidate to represent the face of Boston.

Pedro had arguably the most dominant season of all time (for a pitcher), though.......but I'd go Bird over either, he's probably #5 on the potential list

 

[Steve102]

Pedro had arguably the most dominant season of all time (for a pitcher), though.......but I'd go Bird over either, he's probably #5 on the potential list

This deserves it's own thread.

Bill Russell, Tom Brady, and Bobby Orr are the easy ones.

 

[Bruins29]

Pedro had arguably the most dominant season of all time (for a pitcher), though.......but I'd go Bird over either, he's probably #5 on the potential list

Bird would certainly be 5.

Pedro was awesome. I do think that when you talk about the Mount Rushmore of Boston sports that longevity has to be taken into account as well as just general notoriety. Williams, Orr and TB were all about Boston for either all of most of their careers.

Pedro had good years with NYM and MON. Ortiz was meh in MIN and when he came to Boston his career took off.

 

[Triumph]

The proper order is;
1-Bill
2-Tom
3-Bobby
4-Ted & Pedro

The Celts are a hard one.

Red coached to 9 Championships and then took over as GM and kept winning. Kept finding coaches and players. The Larry Bird story is classic Red. He went to see Bird play in college and Red knew that the media would be watching his every move. So, after a few minutes Red got up and left Birds game as if he was not impressed at all. Then he signed Bird before anybody else.

 

[yukon cornelius]

This deserves it's own thread.

Bill Russell, Tom Brady, and Bobby Orr are the easy ones.

i think the top 4 are easy, because i think ted is a no brainer.......the career he had coupled with giving up 5 years to serve, 37 combat missions, then coming back and picking right up where he left off.......hell, john glenn calls him the greatest pilot he's ever seen

the guy was otherworldly......imho he and russell transcended their sports

tom & bobby changed the course of their franchises, but those two, ted & bill, imho, transcended their sport