Game Day Thread Official Post Game Thread- Raiders beat the Pats

[festy1986]

Fair enough. Was genuinely interested in what you think has gone wrong. Maybe it could still be fixed. Clearly you just think he's a stiff, period.

I have no idea who's fault it is. It could be any number of people's fault but at 2 years and the money he's making, all that matters is he's been a bust.

Even under McDaniels he wasn't all that good so it's obviously not Patricias fault. That I can rule out.

 

[sb1]

Justin Fields had it way worse in 2021 than Mac does this year - a bad HC and a weak defense to go along with bad offensive coaching, no OL and no receivers...and I don't remember him having on field hysterics or cursing out his coaches. And now look at him.

 

[Real fan 02]

As bad as the Pats are, they had this game.

If you didn't like Mac before the game, you won't like Mac after he turtled when Jones caught the ball. This dude is a pansy.

I hope Meyers goes to another team next year. He's overly targeted and makes almost zero impact. Now he can add most idiotic play of the year to his resume.

Horribly coached on the 4th down play. The CB's gave the Raiders the sticks as soon as Carr snapped the football.

Bill is now 11-12 vs his assistants. That should not be possible.

At least Uche adds another sack to his total. If their going down, at least they can have the highest sacking tandem in the NFL.

Barmore doing his usual "I'm close to sacking him" routine. He really needs to step his game up the next couple of weeks.

Agreed on all of that. However barmore hasn't been right since going back to last season where he got hurt at Miami.

He's playing with a knee brace I'm sure that can't be comfortable. The 4th & 10 play is the reason we were even in that crazy scenario to begin with.

The defense by today's NFL standards is elite, with no household names aside from judon.

Everyone save for Rham on offense needs to be revamped.

I don't really see a scenario where the defense can play any better considering the offenses.

 

[Ollie]

Raiders didn't stop **** though they scored twice Raiders got bailed out.

they got bailed out by our inept coaching and offense. So by that we are the first team to fall to punch it in from the 5 all year.

 

[catent]

Wouldn't surprise me if the Zappites were the same trolls who piled on McDaniels when the offense stunk. Now when the offense stinks the OC is some sort of innocent bystander.

Don’t confound holding Mac accountable for some proportion of his poor play with the suggestion that Patricia is merely a bystander.

 

[PaulThePat]

Still way better than your pal Mac

My pal? No, our QB.

 

[PaulThePat]

Justin Fields had it way worse in 2021 than Mac does this year - a bad HC and a weak defense to go along with bad offensive coaching, no OL and no receivers...and I don't remember him having on field hysterics or cursing out his coaches. And now look at him.

To be fair the Bears are 3-11. Not sure his running plays have helped that much.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Justin Fields had it way worse in 2021 than Mac does this year - a bad HC and a weak defense to go along with bad offensive coaching, no OL and no receivers...and I don't remember him having on field hysterics or cursing out his coaches. And now look at him.

Justin Fields will have a better career than Mac

 

[sb1]

Justin Fields will have a better career than Mac

Maybe. I just know he knew how to take his lumps better than Mac seems to.

 

[Mike the Brit]

McDaniels: I can't believe how we threw away the game to Baker Mayfield right at the end

BB: hold my beer

 

[PaulThePat]

Justin Fields will have a better career than Mac

Other than Zappe (obviously) who do you want to be QB? Are we talking Free Agency, draft...what, who?

 

[h0c2000]

The funniest part of that last play is that Chandler didn't look like he moved after missing the tackle on rhamondre. Looks like he just stayed where he fell on the field. Then a Christmas miracle and the ball somehow comes into his hands.

 

[Triumph]

BB is still a GREAT Head Coach and GM.

He has put together a Defense and Running game to die for, but in THIS NFL you cant win it all without a QB. There comes a day when the RBs or Defense or both are just a step off that day. Your QB must step up and fill the void.

 

[Ollie]

they are bad offensive line all over the NFL. Other QB can get around. Ours is one of the worst.

Oline was great last night. Mac was awful against one of the worst defense in the NFL.

Excuses excuses always excuses. It’s always everybody fault but Mac.

No one is absolving Mac of blame. But as others have said the offense as a whole has regressed by every measurable statistic from last year and every single play bar Rham has got considerably worse. That gives context to Macs awful performances. Mac was bad yesterday but its almost impossible to know how much is his own awful play and the context of bad offensive coaching. One thing for sure is that the coaching is bad. this offense at times looks like a **** show unlike anything i've seen here in decades. That isn't all on Mac.

 

[Triumph]

Justin Fields will have a better career than Mac

Ryan Tannehill too.

Mark Sanchez won playoff games.

 

[1960Pats]

So then let’s give Patricia more time , it’s his first year as an OC, amirite

He's getting more time whether we want him to or not. No way Bob lets go of Bill and no way Bill lets go of Matt.

 

[sb1]

I thought the Dion Lewis run before OT in Super Bowl 51 was a dumb idea. 2022: Hold my beer.

Can you imagine the Patriots trying this stunt in that game after that comeback? I think Brady and Edelman and a bunch of other guys would have quit right on the spot.

 

[Lagaffe_07]

Other than Zappe (obviously) who do you want to be QB? Are we talking Free Agency, draft...what, who?

At this point I would go after Jimmy G or Lamar.

 

[archstanton543]

I thought the Dion Lewis run before OT in Super Bowl 51 was a dumb idea. 2022: Hold my beer.

Can you imagine the Patriots trying this stunt in that game after that comeback? I think Brady and Edelman and a bunch of other guys would have quit right on the spot.

Oh, you'll be seeing a lot of quiet quitting the next couple of weeks out of the Pats.

 

[PaulThePat]

One thing for sure is that the coaching is bad

Only a badly coached team could possibly come up with that last play. To even think about a backward lateral in that situation is utterly mind-blowing and something you'd expect from a 0-10 high school team. Suggests either a total lack of discipline/smarts on the players part or quite possibly a lack of respect to the coaching. Totally indefensible by Meyers.