Official 2022 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Guts]

TB was trending on Twitter and the reason being now military folks are upset at him lmao TMZ actually made a story about it.

 

[crawhammer]

You must admit, Tom did not look good this past week both on and off the field.

Brady's on field struggles are being entirely overstated at this point. Anyone listen Shannon Sharpe on Undisputed? Daily he's screaming about how Brady "sucks" and essentially should just retire right now in the middle of the season. Obviously Sharpe's opinion is an extreme one but Brady is generally taking a lot of criticism for his play so far. However, if you look at his numbers, they're really not that bad. He's 5th in passing yards, 5th in completion percentage, 3rd in completions, 4th in first down completions, 1st in INT%, and 7th in passer rating.

Overall Brady is still a top 10 quarterback in the league for this season. What's holding him down is lack of production in the red zone, which obviously is not a desirable area to be struggling. He has 8 TDs, which is low for him to this point, but quarterback play is down across the league this season and only 5 quarterbacks have more than 10 TDs. There are two quarterbacks having undeniably great seasons - Allen and Mahomes - and that's really it. So it won't take much for Brady to vault himself back into the top 5 of quarterbacks for the season.

Regarding the off field stuff, I suppose primarily you're referring to Kraft's wedding. When I heard about it I thought it was a bad look for Brady attending the wedding and missing team activities the day before a game. It looks worse after they lost to a bad team and only scored 18 points. So I think the criticism is fair in this area. If the Bucs make it to the bye at 7-3, meaning wins over the Ravens and the Rams in primetime, then all of this off field stuff will become irrelevant.

 

[XLIX]

Overall Brady is still a top 10 quarterback in the league for this season. What's holding him down is lack of production in the red zone, which obviously is not a desirable area to be struggling. He has 8 TDs, which is low for him to this point, but quarterback play is down across the league this season and only 5 quarterbacks have more than 10 TDs.

Amen. For all the talk about the one stat he is doing poorly with, he is still tied for 12th.

His problem is he is the undisputed greatest of all time, so that sets an impossibly high standard. If he has a "top 10 QB in the NFL" season, the usual idiots want to play that off like it is some sort of disaster.

 

[XLIX]

TB was trending on Twitter and the reason being now military folks are upset at him lmao TMZ actually made a story about it.

Just my theory....

I don't think that comment came purely out of the blue. I suspect he used that analogy in his discussions (arguments?) with Gisele about his time away from the family during the football season. I know I have used it before to mention the fact that guys disappearing from their families for 5-6 months at a time is not a completely unheard of occurrence. So he isn't telling Gisele "playing football is like being in the military".... he is saying "playing football takes you away from your family like being in the military does."

 

[VectorPrime]

Shannon Sharpe has always had very strong opinions about Brady despite his championships hinging on exploiting the rules around the salary cap in what is still an egregious way.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Shannon Sharpe has always had very strong opinions about Brady despite his championships hinging on exploiting the rules around the salary cap in what is still an egregious way.

Haven't you heard? You are forbidden to bring up examples of other people doing anything wrong. Only Tom Brady can be criticized.

 

[crawhammer]

What about Peyton Manning blaming his wife for HGH shipments to their home. He got totally let off the hook for that. Brady gets pummeled for being "politically incorrect." Who are these soft people insulting Brady for his military analogy anyway? It doesn't take a genius to realize Brady doesn't actually believe playing in the NFL is the same as a military deployment.

 

[Guts]

What about Peyton Manning blaming his wife for HGH shipments to their home. He got totally let off the hook for that. Brady gets pummeled for being "politically incorrect." Who are these soft people insulting Brady for his military analogy anyway? It doesn't take a genius to realize Brady doesn't actually believe playing in the NFL is the same as a military deployment.

I would hate to be rich and famous. Everything you say is under a microscope.

Wait take that back I would hate to be famous not rich lol

 

[VectorPrime]

What about Peyton Manning blaming his wife for HGH shipments to their home. He got totally let off the hook for that. Brady gets pummeled for being "politically incorrect." Who are these soft people insulting Brady for his military analogy anyway? It doesn't take a genius to realize Brady doesn't actually believe playing in the NFL is the same as a military deployment.

Lmao I forgot about Peyton throwing his wife under the bus for the HGH. Yeah what a family man.

Anyway

 

[Guts]

Lmao I forgot about Peyton throwing his wife under the bus for the HGH. Yeah what a family man.

Anyway

That would be huge if true.

 

[Deus Irae]

Offensive lineman Josh Wells is on his way back to the Buccaneers lineup.

The team announced on Wednesday that they have designated Wells for return from injured reserve. Wells started at left tackle in Week Two in place of the injured Donovan Smith, but he left the game with a calf injury and went on injured reserve a few days later.

Buccaneers designate Josh Wells for return - ProFootballTalk

 

[Deus Irae]

What’s wrong with the Buccaneers? Their head coach thinks they need to toughen up.

“We were bad on third-and-short, even third-and-inches, third-and-one,” Bowles said Tuesday on the Buccaneers Radio Network, via JoeBucsFan.com. “We’ve got to find a way to get one yard. We got some tough guys up there. We’ve got to understand what we are and who we are going forward, as opposed to trying to make a whole bunch of different plays, and we’ve got to be better at that. . . . We’ve got to be tougher up front. We’ve got to be tougher up front on both side of the ball. Plain and simple.”

Todd Bowles wants the Buccaneers to get tougher - ProFootballTalk




So Bowles is seeing at least some of what we have all been pointing out. The question is whether or not he can do anything about it.

 

[Guts]

Todd Bowles wants the Buccaneers to get tougher - ProFootballTalk




So Bowles is seeing at least some of what we have all been pointing out. The question is whether or not he can do anything about it.

On all the third and shorts they run on the weakest side of their line. Why they don't run where Mason and Wirfs are is a mystery to me

 

[crawhammer]

So Bowles is seeing at least some of what we have all been pointing out. The question is whether or not he can do anything about it.

If his plan is "they have to be tougher up front" then I don't think anything will change. Toughness seems like it's there or it isn't by week 6. Unless you're changing personnel which is where Jensen's return could make a huge difference. They should just defer to the passing game when things aren't going well in certain situations, such as even third-and-short, the current operation (o-line to RBs) just isn't working and I don't think extra time in the weight room is going to make the difference right now.

 

[Guts]

So all that "bad look" takes from peeps are down the drain.

 

[Tottie]

If you guys have speakers or time at work, this was a good pod on Bucs issues.

Identifying And Fixing Bucs' Issues

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[Deus Irae]

So all that "bad look" takes from peeps are down the drain.

The narrative must be preserved and advanced. The reality is irrelevant. We've all seen players airing each other out on the sidelines. We've all seen players miss practices for big events. We've all seen players ask for calls. We've all seen players frustrated on the field. And we've seen it from elite players, including elite QBs, both on the field and off (remember "our idiot kicker who got liquored up and ran his mouth off" by Peyton?).

But acknowledging all that is bad for the media business.

 

[Deus Irae]

Tampa Bay coach Todd Bowles was asked on Wednesday whether he’d ask Arians for advice on how to fix a sputtering offense.

“Well, this is my team, not Bruce’s team, but we talk all the time,” Bowles said, via JoeBucsFan.com. “You don’t jumpstart [the offense] by asking a former coach what to do. We have our own things to deal with, and we understand that. We’ve been with Bruce long enough to know what he wants, but they’ve been with me long enough to know what I want. We’re working towards that and we’ll get through it.”

Todd Bowles won't be asking Bruce Arians for input - ProFootballTalk

 

[gobesmug]

Buccaneers designate Josh Wells for return - ProFootballTalk

Can be play LG?

 

[RicoG]

Can be play LG?

I think he has filled in at right guard and tackle. He wasn't very good.