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Objective? We're mostly dealing with interpretation and opinion here. You think you're just reciting facts all day long? The majority of interactions on this forum are heavily influenced by personal opinions. This isn't Britannica.com
They only go by what makes their argument better.
I don't go by yards, when have yards ever won you games. Maybe I'm wrong, but I would think points is a much better indicator.
Points allowed
+ Negative plays/sacks
We completed year 1 of the rebuild. It started when Mac Jones name was called. I don't consider 2020 a rebuild year. Remains to be seen how good the roster is compared to last year. The only massive downgrade that we know of is the coaching staff but hopefully they surprise us in a good way.
I'd say yes and no. Yes when you're looking at individual players but during a game I think good defenses can get pressures which lead to sacks. Also QB hurries. Things that break a play. Sacks are a costly negative play and bad things can also happen on sacks like fumbles...
Pressures can be caused by great coverage/indecisive QB/bad line play.
Points allowed can be determined by how your offense plays too. Example. Tampa was 27th in 2019 with a bad Qb turning the ball over, in 2020 they went to 7th, they had the same guys. If your offense is stalling out or turning the ball over, you are going to give up points, I dont care what players you have.
Yep that can be a big part of it.
Exactly. It does not matter what your defense is, if they are on the field most of the game, they are going to give up points. POints against is very subjective on more than just the defense. If you turn the ball over and the other team scores from the 5 yard line in 3 tries, whos fault is it. People tend to use what makes their argument work as to what really consititues being good or bad. The pats offense for 19 years was the most consistent offense in football, they are not going to give up a ton of points off mistakes.
Yes and no. It's a combination of things sometimes. Look at the 2010-2012 Patriots. They were top 10 in points allowed even with an explosive offense when we all know they gave up yards in chunks. Part of that was by design but the other part was talent/gamechangers. We can all agree that was not a stout defense. They did some things well but they played conservative because they a) had no choice and b) had an offense that forced teams to gamble and try to keep up.
Because I did.
DVOA is usually the best indicator. The problem with points is that the defense can be mediocre but the offense and special teams set it up for success. Example, if you have a team that usually gets out to an early big lead and they have a good kickoff team, all of a sudden the opposing offense is incentivized to make higher risk throws on a longer field which helps out the defense. That's why most people go by yards. But yards has the problem of a bend but don't break defense getting discredited.
Baloney.
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