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He is also better than people are giving him credit for. I know its been rehashed over and over (not sure that means its getting though to some here) but he wasnt as bad as advertised last year. He was getting open and Mac wasnt getting him the ball.

This shouldnt need to be explained much less over and over and over.
I've been explaining that. No one seems to get it
 
I've been explaining that. No one seems to get it
I don’t know. Before camp started, I was all for trading him if we could get someone to take the full cap hit. I’ve changed my tune a bit after all of the reports. If he performs well during the first qtr of the season, I’d say lower his cap hit by giving him an extension that might have a more reasonable dollar amt over the next 2-3 years. Why let him walk?
 
Many do not share your premise. He got a sack and made some plays on inside runs.

Many on this board think Wilkerson, Nixon, Roberts, and Ray will not make it through waivers.

One, maybe two will be claimed, and I don't think Ray is in the top two.
 
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Can't ever remember someone getting a "non-contact" concussion
The claim that it was a "non-contact" injury was false.
 
Many on this board think Wilkerson, Nixon, Roberts, and Ray will not make it through waivers.

One, maybe two will be claimed, and I don't think Ray is in the top two.
Nobody knows who might be claimed. But you are wrong to say he didn’t flash in the game. He was singled out for doing so by a couple of reporters.


Lazar mentioned him today among the standouts again.
 
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Many on this board think Wilkerson, Nixon, Roberts, and Ray will not make it through waivers.

One, maybe two will be claimed, and I don't think Ray is in the top two.
The year the Pats lost Darryl Roberts, Cre'von Leblanc, and Kamu Grugier-Hill, most people thought they'd all land on the PS. Yet the Jets, Bears, and Eagles all swooped in.

There have been years where they lost no one and that surprised people also.

But to say that Roberts and Ray aren't flashing says you aren't paying attention.

I don't believe that either Wilkerson nor Nixon will make it through waivers. There are several WR needy teams including the Cowboys and Bears.
 
So is pre-season game 2 like the old pre-season game 3? Where the starters play at least 2 full quarters? How does it work with just 3 games these games? I'm still confused.
I'm guessing no. The joint practices seem to have replaced the preseason games for "starters reps" and are instead used more for roster shaping, but just my opinion.
 
The year the Pats lost Darryl Roberts, Cre'von Leblanc, and Kamu Grugier-Hill, most people thought they'd all land on the PS. Yet the Jets, Bears, and Eagles all swooped in.

One isolated year, and that was a deeper Super Bowl level team stacking veterans for Brady's last runs, so they kept safer options.

This is a thinner building team.
 
I don’t know. Before camp started, I was all for trading him if we could get someone to take the full cap hit. I’ve changed my tune a bit after all of the reports. If he performs well during the first qtr of the season, I’d say lower his cap hit by giving him an extension that might have a more reasonable dollar amt over the next 2-3 years. Why let him walk?
That cap hit is on par for a receiver with his past production. The value is what it is now
 
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