Wide Receivers depth chart

[TheRainMaker]

Found the link which to get positional spending for all NFL.

#3 for WR's for the Pats. While it's pretty bad, but it goes down considerably next year.

Positional Spending | Over the Cap

Positional Spending | Over the Cap

overthecap.com

 

[Wozzy]

Lol...dude, get help.

You’re the one on suicide watch, cutting yourself is not a good substitute for mental health.

 

[venecol]

"Without a good coach and good quarterback, no matter how good the other players are, I don’t think you can win consistently." Robert Kraft, March 29, 2022.

 

[Ring 6]

Guessing that includes the TEs. What an embarrassing graphic for the Patriots.

Why is it embarrassing, they are spending resources to surround their young QB with weapons.
Last year it was enough to have one of the few most productive offenses with a rookie QB in NFL history and was the 6th highest scoring in the league, unheard of with a rookie QB. This it has been enhanced.
I thought you were one of those guys who says they need to spend on weapons

 

[Ring 6]

That free agency "haul" was crap, as many of us said at the time. Jonnu Smith, Hunter Henry, and Nelson Agholor for roughly $40M AAV? How is that efficient spending? The Pats backloaded those contracts, so now the big money is due. And they're not two year contracts for Smith and Henry; trying to get out of them next year would come at a fairly big dead cap hit, so they'd need to extend them to spread it out. Smith, in particular, might be the worst FA signing in the NFL last year. They'd need to take a cap hit of over $13M in 2023 just to part ways with him, as he's almost fully guaranteed for three years. People don't realize just how "all-in" the Patriots were in 2021. They paid very little on their FA signings and backloaded it aggressively, way above the cap spike percentage.

What do you mean by "maximizes flexibility" ? Sounds like some Billspeak to spin everything into an ingenious move, when in fact the 2021 contracts were completely against the grain of everything Bill has done previously in free agency. These contracts do not maximize flexibility at all; they're merely huge money dumps that tie up cap space to minimize flexibility. They lost a star player (Jackson) and had almost no money to spend this offseason for a reason.

Hunter Henry (cap hit)
2021 - 6.8
2022 - 15
2023 - 15.5 (or dead cap of 5)

Jonnu Smith
2021 - 5.6
2022 - 13.7
2023 - 14.8
2024 - 15.8 (or dead cap of 3.8)

Nelson Agholor
2021 - 6.9
2022 - 14.8

2021 Total Cap Hit: 19.3
2022 Total Cap Hit: 43.8

It's an open question if Agholor is even good enough to make the roster, or maybe he'll be a #4 type of receiver. Smith isn't good and never has been. Henry is a solid, unspectacular tight end. They're paying 43.8M this year for those three. That's embarassing.

They went into FA with:
LegArm Newton at QB
No one to speak of at TE
Harry Meyers and Gunner at WR
2 starting OL

They turned that mess into the 6th highest scoring offense in the league in Free Agency.
It would be beyond ignorant to not consider the totality of free agency on offense in 2021 anything but a rousing success so far. I mean if you just use facts and truth.

 

[Ring 6]

Lol...dude, get help.

Woozy earns the W

 

[Ring 6]

That free agency "haul" was crap, as many of us said at the time. Jonnu Smith, Hunter Henry, and Nelson Agholor for roughly $40M AAV? How is that efficient spending? The Pats backloaded those contracts, so now the big money is due. And they're not two year contracts for Smith and Henry; trying to get out of them next year would come at a fairly big dead cap hit, so they'd need to extend them to spread it out. Smith, in particular, might be the worst FA signing in the NFL last year. They'd need to take a cap hit of over $13M in 2023 just to part ways with him, as he's almost fully guaranteed for three years. People don't realize just how "all-in" the Patriots were in 2021. They paid very little on their FA signings and backloaded it aggressively, way above the cap spike percentage.

What do you mean by "maximizes flexibility" ? Sounds like some Billspeak to spin everything into an ingenious move, when in fact the 2021 contracts were completely against the grain of everything Bill has done previously in free agency. These contracts do not maximize flexibility at all; they're merely huge money dumps that tie up cap space to minimize flexibility. They lost a star player (Jackson) and had almost no money to spend this offseason for a reason.

Hunter Henry (cap hit)
2021 - 6.8
2022 - 15
2023 - 15.5 (or dead cap of 5)

Jonnu Smith
2021 - 5.6
2022 - 13.7
2023 - 14.8
2024 - 15.8 (or dead cap of 3.8)

Nelson Agholor
2021 - 6.9
2022 - 14.8

2021 Total Cap Hit: 19.3
2022 Total Cap Hit: 43.8

It's an open question if Agholor is even good enough to make the roster, or maybe he'll be a #4 type of receiver. Smith isn't good and never has been. Henry is a solid, unspectacular tight end. They're paying 43.8M this year for those three. That's embarassing.

The Patriots were no more heavily backloaded than any team in free agency. The contract structures were the norm for the NFL.

 

[venecol]

They went into FA with:
LegArm Newton at QB
No one to speak of at TE
Harry Meyers and Gunner at WR
2 starting OL

That was Bill Belichick's team, correct?

They turned that mess into the 6th highest scoring offense in the league in Free Agency.
It would be beyond ignorant to not consider the totality of free agency on offense in 2021 anything but a rousing success so far. I mean if you just use facts and truth.

Specifically, that would be:

#1 scoring offense against teams with a <.500 record.

#20 scoring offense against teams with a >.500 record.

 

[venecol]

Woozy earns the W

Andy earns the L.

 

[Ring 6]

That was Bill Belichick's team, correct?

Specifically, that would be:

#1 scoring offense against teams with a <.500 record.

#20 scoring offense against teams with a >.500 record.

Whose team do you think it was? And I fail to see how that matters.


Those stats are LIES.

 

[Ring 6]

Andy earns the L.

I wasn’t in that discussion but the guy who responds to detailed supported opinions with “get help” clearly waived the white flag, regardless of your obsession with me.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Andy earns the L.

He simply isn’t worthy of acknowledgement.

Team Bill has shrunk to like 3 people now. All the forum’s idiots condensed into a sad little echo chamber.

 

[Triumph]

They went into FA with:
LegArm Newton at QB
No one to speak of at TE
Harry Meyers and Gunner at WR
2 starting OL

They turned that mess into the 6th highest scoring offense in the league in Free Agency.
It would be beyond ignorant to not consider the totality of free agency on offense in 2021 anything but a rousing success so far. I mean if you just use facts and truth

NE is a fake 6th rated scoring offense.

38% of their 462 points came vs 3 teams NY Jets, Cleveland and Jacksonville. Through these 4 one sided games 175 points were scored. This is akin to Kramer the black belt beating up 12 year olds at the dojo to win the championship crown.

 

[captain stone]

Lol...dude, get help.

Looks like Woz forgot to take his meds again today...

 

[TheRainMaker]

#1 scoring offense against teams with a <.500 record.

#20 scoring offense against teams with a >.500 record.

Curious where you got these stats.

 

[TheRainMaker]

NE is a fake 6th rated scoring offense.

38% of their 462 points came vs 3 teams NY Jets, Cleveland and Jacksonville. Through these 4 one sided games 175 points were scored. This is akin to Kramer the black belt beating up 12 year olds at the dojo to win the championship crown.

These stats for some reason just don't register with some posters.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Team Bill has shrunk to like 3 people now. All the forum’s idiots condensed into a sad little echo chamber.

It's certainly seems like that. I've noticed a trend since Tom left. That one poster that won't be mentioned had almost this entire board fooled thinking he had inside info saying Tom was going to re-sign. When he didn't, people disappeared.

It got worse during the 2020 season with the media going nuclear on Bill and there was another mass exodus of Team Bill posters. They magically reappeared after FA, went back into hibernation during the 2-4 start, came out of hiding during their winning streak when they were 9-4 and then disappeared again after the disastrous end.

Here we are in the offseason and there's hardly anyone left. However, I don't think it's necessarily a good thing because since that time there's been many threads talking about the same thing between the same posters.

 

[venecol]

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Seriously...I am on Team Bill

Wait, so you're Tony Curtis? Lol

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

It's certainly seems like that. I've noticed a trend since Tom left. That one poster that won't be mentioned had almost this entire board fooled thinking he had inside info saying Tom was going to re-sign. When he didn't, people disappeared.

It got worse during the 2020 season with the media going nuclear on Bill and there was another mass exodus of Team Bill posters. They magically reappeared after FA, went back into hibernation during the 2-4 start, came out of hiding during their winning streak when they were 9-4 and then disappeared again after the disastrous end.

Here we are in the offseason and there's hardly anyone left. However, I don't think it's necessarily a good thing because since that time there's been many threads talking about the same thing between the same posters.

No doubt Team Bill is the most fair weather of all fan types.

 

[Zuma]

No doubt Team Bill is the most fair weather of all fan types.

It’s hot here in South Florida but I can’t complain