DRAFT Cole Strange-Welcome to the Pats

[203Pat]

Sorry but that was not very classy of McVay.

 

[JMC00]

Do you feel that this was the right call and that we maximized our opportunities?

I got no clue because the guy hasn't practiced even 1 snap. But I completely understand it. Guard was a big hole and they got a guy they liked. On the flipside of this everyone freaking out the guys you all wanted weren't guarantees either.

But no one can debate the track record of the Patriots and OL in the draft. So if they had a 1st round grade on Strange I assume he got the Scarr stamp of approval. So even though I might not be 100% on board with it and would have preferred a different poistion, I give them the benefit of the doubt because of the track record, so I'm not gonna act like this was some franchise killing move like people on here been doing for nearly 12 hours. I mean we have a thread on here where the OP is talking about being depressed because the team made the choice of prioritizing protecting the QB and it's a poistion they have done well drafting.

 

[Toofy]

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Seriously.... They are trolling us big time...

 

[FreeTedWilliams]

Me looking at the other 31 picks in the first round.......

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

Me looking at the other 31 picks in the first round.......View attachment 42786

 

[203Pat]

And not resigning Karras most importantly. I can understand trading Mason if you want to put Onwenu a RG. But the Karras thing was a fiasco

They didn't even save much money. The 29th pick is slated to make between $2mill-$2.5 mill this season and Karras walked for $5 mill.

 

[Toofy]

A lot of folks are pretty sure here that this guy is a bust. I figure we should let him play first before we fire the coach.

Even if he is all pro, drafting a guard in first round is a reach . Like drafting a Rab in round 1 these days .

 

[ashley]

 

[ashley]

 

[Joey007]

This has to be one of your worst takes EVER.
This defense is no where close to being what will go into camp with, let alone the first game of the season. For you to make this take is dcownright laughable. I expect this sort of BS from Capt Stone, Patsfan2 and DKF. Not you. You trypically have a head on your shoulders, know your football, and don't over-react.

Appreciate the compliment anyways.

I was angry last night sure. Did I overreact? Sure. I’m still frustrated with our lack of defensive personnel. I’m not exactly sure where these pieces to improve it next will come from. Bill better knock it out with these picks in round 2-4.

I don’t see a defense that has improved in any way shape or form since being toasted by Buffalo. Explain to me where that’ll improve? I’d honestly love to figure that out, because I have no answers there. And I’m not exactly prepared to watch Josh Allen have his way with us again. Hence, the frustrated response.

 

[1960Pats]

Here's the thread for when Thuney was drafted. It's a funny read, because pretty much all of the same complaints and arguments are made there as are being made here. Thuney ended up being pretty good, at least in my opinion! Seemed like the Pats knew what they were doing.

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Some players work out and some don't. That's just the way it is for the draft.

I have to admit that I was surprised at the negativity over a draft pick that hasn't stepped on the field yet.

 

[yukon cornelius]

No one's saying he's a bust. Everyone's saying he's over-drafted for a position that could have been addressed later in the draft. I'm sure Cole will be fine but we had two fine G's that Bill either traded or let walk.

they would have needed to spend draft capital to move way up in the 2nd to even have a shot to get him.......8 teams with G need between 29 & 54, he was next guard off the board

could they have gotten A guard later on, yes........but not THIS guard......and clearly THIS guard mattered on their board

 

[Pats2000]

I was listening to Dane Brugler on the Athletic podcast and he loves the pick and the player. Obviously he thinks its a slight reach too but it's made me feel a bit better. Most teams had a 2nd round grade on him apparently so it's not quite a Jordan Richards style pick. The one thing I'm clinging to is that teams undervalued the tape because of the level of competition. He's at least uber athletic.

Not too mention it was bottom of the first round. It's not like they took the guy with the 5th pick in the 1st round.

They got a guy they wanted and turned it into two additional picks.

 

[Toofy]

(some humor)

possibly how things went down...

BB in the war room with scouting team. Kraft down in Florida. BB on phone with Kraft

BB trades back from 21....29 comes up and he doesnt love anything.

BB: "Bob...we have OL as a need but really only have Cole at the top of our board. im sure we can get him later...."
(some background noise)
Kraft : ".....oh baby, im feeling something Strange right now..."
BB: "Bob?...really?"
(some background noise)
Kraft : "..yeah honey....69, yess...now"
BB : "ok its your team i guess..."

BB "guys the boss wants Cole Strange now I guess. get the pick in"

Kraft :" sorry Bill....i was just, ummmm, finishing something up with....so where are we"....

Sorry the joke was good, but just not in the mood to stomach it... Bill Really killed the freaking draft week with this pick...

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

A few years ago McVay was kissing up to Belichick about how great he is, and after winning the SB he thinks he's all that...

I wouldn’t be surprised to hear some sort of backtrack soon from mcvay. He seems like he has too much respect for bb to let this go on much longer without addressing. He looked pretty sauced last night

 

[ashley]

 

[Lagaffe_07]

they would have needed to spend draft capital to move way up in the 2nd to even have a shot to get him.......8 teams with G need between 29 & 54, he was next guard off the board

could they have gotten A guard later on, yes........but not THIS guard......and clearly THIS guard mattered on their board

And what every one is saying is that a G should not have mattered more. The G position will not be the difference between a SB or not. Lacking top end talent on the defensive side of the ball will on the other end.

I am sure we will all be happy to have cole strange next year when this defense will get destroy by Allen, Hill and waddle next year.

 

[nextsuperstar]

Don't love it at all. We spent the better part of two decades plugging in nobodies at guard and it was never an issue. Now with holes all over the roster we take a guy at a spot where we had two good players that we didn't feel like paying anymore.

I wouldn’t say that the left guards have been nobodies. They’ve had same darn good left guards. Mankins, Thuney, and Andruzzi were the consistent starters there for most of the last two decades. They’ve had a couple of years with guys filling in at the spot, like Connelly and Mason for a year each. But left guard has been stable.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

And what every one is saying is that a G should not have mattered more. The G position will not be the difference between a SB or not. Lacking top end talent on the defensive side of the ball will on the other end

We're not getting there this year, anyway. Protecting Mac is the most important thing right now. Not saying that this was the right OL pick, but Strange > Ferentz

 

[Steve102]

I swear Bill is in a vacuum from the rest of the league. I am sure this kid is a fine player, but even Bill's peers thought he'd be there later. It's poor draft management. Could have had McDuffie AND this kid at 54. Or Dean at 29 and this kid later. It sucks. I am so aggravated this morning, and it has nothing to do with Steven Strange or whatever the hell this kid's name is. I am sure he's fine.... at 54. Trade out for chrissakes.

i know what his name is.