Official 2022 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[sb1]

What Brady did in 2020 was no different than what Matthew Stafford did for the Rams in 2021. In fact, Stafford's 2021 post season run was statistically better.

Stafford didn't do any such thing. Brady is almost 10 years older and still playing at an elite level. What Brady did in 2020 will never be duplicated again by anyone.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Stafford didn't do any such thing. Brady is almost 10 years older and still playing at an elite level. What Brady did in 2020 will never be duplicated again by anyone.

Brady (2020): Regular Season - 11-5, 4633 yards, 40 touchdowns, 12 INTs; playoffs - 1061 yards, 10 TDs, 3 INTs, 58% completions

Stafford (2021): Regular Season - 12-5, 4886 yards, 41 TDs, 17 INTs; playoffs - 1188 yards, 9 TDs, 3 INTs, 70% completions

Brady was slightly better during the regular season. However, Stafford was better in the playoffs. Brady wasn't even accurate in his 2020 postseason run lol. And stafford didn't recruit anyone to join him like Brady did with Gronk, Fournette, and Brown. Stafford took the players he was given and ran roughshod over Tommy twice en route to the super bowl. Edge - Stafford.

What Brady did in 2020 was very Stafford-like.

 

[gobesmug]

What Brady did in 2020 was no different than what Matthew Stafford did for the Rams in 2021. In fact, Stafford's 2021 post season run was statistically better.



So you are rooting for the Dolphins to do well this year? Got it...

Stafford joined a team that had been to the playoffs 3 out of 4 years including the superbowl.

The season they missed the playoffs they still had a winning record of 9-7 so it was a team of 4 years straight of a winning record.

Brady went to a team that hadn't been to the playoffs in 13 years.

So no, not exactly the same thing

 

[sb1]

And stafford didn't recruit anyone to join him like Brady did with Gronk, Fournette, and Brown.

You're talking about Brady recruiting players like it's a bad thing.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

Stafford joined a team that had been to the playoffs 3 out of 4 years including the superbowl.

The season they missed the playoffs they still had a winning record of 9-7 so it was a team of 4 years straight of a winning record.

Brady went to a team that hadn't been to the playoffs in 13 years.

So no, not exactly the same thing

yes, because Tampa was so devoid of talent.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

You're talking about Brady recruiting players like it's a bad thing.

Stafford didn't need to recruit anyone to win the SB with his new team.

 

[sb1]

Stafford didn't need to recruit anyone to win the SB with his new team.

Since when is recruiting a bad thing? Players want to play for Brady and rightfully so.

 

[sb1]

yes, because Tampa was so devoid of talent.

7-9 before Brady joined. Finished last in the division 7 out of their last 9 seasons

24-9 and 5-1 in the playoffs with one SB championship since.

 

[gobesmug]

yes, because Tampa was so devoid of talent.

It's extremely rare that any team in the NFL is devoid of talent.

Organizational issues are typically systemic problems starting with ownership down to coaching.

It's why Winston went 7-9 his last year in TB, to going 5-2 last season with the Saints under strong coaching.

All the players, front office management and ownership all recognized the impact Brady had on changing the culture and being the leader they needed.

Brady's leadership transformed that organization which allowed them to get HOF vets like Gronk and AB and got Fournette.

The Rams already had the culture and leadership from Mcvay. All they needed was a QB who could throw

 

[gobesmug]

7-9 before Brady joined. Finished last in the division 7 out of their last 9 seasons

24-9 and 5-1 in the playoffs with one SB championship since.

Winston with the Bucs 7-9. Winston with the Saints 5-2 before getting injured last season.

So no one can claim Winston was holding the Bucs back. He can win with great leadership and great coaching

 

[SHOWTIME15]

It's extremely rare that any team in the NFL is devoid of talent.

Organizational issues are typically systemic problems starting with ownership down to coaching.

It's why Winston went 7-9 his last year in TB, to going 5-2 last season with the Saints under strong coaching.

All the players, front office management and ownership all recognized the impact Brady had on changing the culture and being the leader they needed.

Brady's leadership transformed that organization which allowed them to get HOF vets like Gronk and AB and got Fournette.

The Rams already had the culture and leadership from Mcvay. All they needed was a QB who could throw

I am not denying that Brady brought leadership to the Bucs. He certainly gave them a winner's mentality. But Stafford, who has never won a super bowl before and has very little playoff experience, went to his new team and won right away. That is impressive as hell.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

Stafford didn't need to recruit anyone to win the SB with his new team.

because the rams already signed and traded for any good vet on the trade block, just saying OBJ and von miller through the season

 

[gobesmug]

I am not denying that Brady brought leadership to the Bucs. He certainly gave them a winner's mentality. But Stafford, who has never won a super bowl before and has very little playoff experience, went to his new team and won right away. That is impressive as hell.

It is impressive. Stafford deserves all the accolades he got last year.

He was on a perennial losing organization, it was great to see him win it

 

[1960Pats]

Winston with the Bucs 7-9. Winston with the Saints 5-2 before getting injured last season.

So no one can claim Winston was holding the Bucs back. He can win with great leadership and great coaching

If only it were that simple.

 

[Guts]

It is impressive. Stafford deserves all the accolades he got last year.

He was on a perennial losing organization, it was great to see him win it

He and Kupp were awesome in their playoff run. But now comes the hard part I'm interested to see how they will fare with them having a target on their backs.

 

[bigballas]

And 25 million is 10 million short of what the Pats offered Brady. What a disgraceful way to treat the GOAT QB after all he did for the Pats. Unfortunately, not paying players who become great while making top dollar for himself seems to be Bill's MO.

what do you mean? the way you have it stated is Pats offered him 35M.

from all we've heard, Pats offered him slightly more than 25M at the 12th hour but Brady had made up his mind to leave at that point. i'd be over it too if I was constantly having to take below market 1 year deals as the GOAT all the while my only weapons are Sanu and Harry

 

[Deus Irae]

Had a good chat with BA about the constant reports regarding his relationship with Tom Brady (who is gifting the former Bucs coach a $50k watch) and how he nearly retired after winning SB 55. From the Arians Family Foundation gala. More today from the golf tournament.

 

[Deus Irae]

Video: Bucs OC Byron Leftwich, at @AriansFF charity golf event today, says the offense shouldn’t change much with Bruce Arians stepping back from coaching.

 

[Guts]

"PR STUNT THEY HATE EACH OTHER!!!"

 

[amfootball]

In other words: Brady is running the O.