Joe Judge clashed with receivers in 2019....

[DaBruinz]

So, many people have been skeptical of Joe Judge moving to the offense. And someone from the 2019 receiving corps spoke anonymously about the receivers and Judge butting heads.

The 2019 WR Corps was as follows:
Edelman
Sanu
Gordon
Meyers
Harry
Olszewski
Brown
Dorsett

Curran: Patriots receivers reportedly clashed with Joe Judge in 2019

Patriots' offensive coach Joe Judge reportedly clashed with receivers during his stint as their position coach in 2019.

www.boston.com

""There were blowups at practice or at least one … in which a receiver said, 'You don't know what you're talking about.'" – Tom Curran

I wonder if this is why Brown worked primarily with the younger WRs (Meyers, Harry, Olszewski) outside of practice.

Could Antonio Brown have been the one and that it helped with the decision to release him?

 

[archstanton543]

Verdict: Guilty as charged!

 

[Sicilian]

Hearsay stories, but I'll ask this: Which WR on the 2019 Patriots didn't perform to their expected level while on the field?

Edelman had 100 catches and 1100 yards.

Brown only played 1 game.

Gordon only played 6 games (and clearly had something going on off the field)

Dorsett is Dorsett.

Meyers was an undrafted rookie.

Harry was a rookie who missed half the season (and hasn't done anything post-Judge either).

Sanu was hurt.

Whatever Judge's effectiveness actually was, I'm having a hard time seeing that coaching was the problem with the 2019 wide receivers, especially given how messy the OL was that year too.

 

[Zuma]

 

[dtbrks]

Good thing it’s now 2022

 

[Clonamery]

Curran for the click! Yes, he scores.

 

[borg]

Hmmmmmmm.....
Which perpetually disgruntled WR has had a long history of total disregard for coaches?

 

[Sicilian]

Hmmmmmmm.....
Which perpetually disgruntled WR has had a long history of total disregard for coaches?

This was my first thought too, but I would be REALLY surprised if Brown is anonymously feeding Curran a scoop. I like Curran, but I don't see him having an inside track on Antonio Brown.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Curran is really reaching here. You'd think it would be Antonio Brown, but he was only there for two weeks. However, we all know how stupid he is.

And by the way, players and coaches argue all the time. I don't care for Judge, but this is National Enquirer scoop from Curran.

 

[Steve102]

This was my first thought too, but I would be REALLY surprised if Brown is anonymously feeding Curran a scoop. I like Curran, but I don't see him having an inside track on Antonio Brown.

Perhaps Judge fed him?

Dude, AB told me I didn't know what I was doing. Where's he now?

 

[borg]

This was my first thought too, but I would be REALLY surprised if Brown is anonymously feeding Curran a scoop. I like Curran, but I don't see him having an inside track on Antonio Brown.

Chain of command
Brady======>Don Yee and/or Tom Sr========>Most loyal Team Brady confidante Tom E Curran

 

[Schmo]

Wasn't that the season where Brady yelled at his receivers mid-game, "I need you to be faster!"

How scandalous.

 

[borg]

Wasn't that the season where Brady yelled at his receivers mid-game, "I need you to be faster!"

How scandalous.

Same season Brady called the movers in preparation for......

 

[farn]

This was my first thought too, but I would be REALLY surprised if Brown is anonymously feeding Curran a scoop. I like Curran, but I don't see him having an inside track on Antonio Brown.

Doesn’t need inside scoop FROM Antonio. Only needs scoop ABOUT Antonio.

 

[upstater1]

This is damning for Judge. No other coach has ever had issues with Antonio Brown and Josh Gordon. I mean, and Sanu? He came over at the end of his career and was so very excited to learn a new system he had never played in before!!!

 

[p8ryts]

So, many people have been skeptical of Joe Judge moving to the offense. And someone from the 2019 receiving corps spoke anonymously about the receivers and Judge butting heads.

The 2019 WR Corps was as follows:
Edelman
Sanu
Gordon
Meyers
Harry
Olszewski
Brown
Dorsett

Curran: Patriots receivers reportedly clashed with Joe Judge in 2019

Patriots' offensive coach Joe Judge reportedly clashed with receivers during his stint as their position coach in 2019.

www.boston.com

""There were blowups at practice or at least one … in which a receiver said, 'You don't know what you're talking about.'" – Tom Curran

I wonder if this is why Brown worked primarily with the younger WRs (Meyers, Harry, Olszewski) outside of practice.

Could Antonio Brown have been the one and that it helped with the decision to release him?

Well, there is nothing I like better than a one man historical attribution. Surely, leading up to draft week, Curran could come up with a better story. I'm sick of April sneak attacks.

 

[jah]

I think if the player who yelled at him had been Antonio Brown, it would have been a story about Antonio Brown. The fact that it's about Judge makes me think a more respectable guy did that.

 

[Patsgofor4]

Chain of command
Brady======>Don Yee and/or Tom Sr========>Most loyal Team Brady confidante Tom E Curran

Exactly. They feed Curran the dirt which puts the Pats in a bad light and he laps it up like a cat with a saucer of warm milk. That’s why it took Curran a full year to (mostly) get over Tommy Boy leaving….he lost a critical source of info and was very upset. To be fair, one year of mourning and anger is still much shorter than a third of the posters here.

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

Judge to Harry you need to run faster come on man my paraplegic grandmother can run faster than you.

Harry you don’t know what you are talking about.

Judge fires back if you ran your feet faster than your mouth we may have something.

Harry this guy doesn’t know how to coach nothing is my fault.

 

[DaBruinz]

Hearsay stories, but I'll ask this: Which WR on the 2019 Patriots didn't perform to their expected level while on the field?

Edelman had 100 catches and 1100 yards.

Brown only played 1 game.

Gordon only played 6 games (and clearly had something going on off the field)

Dorsett is Dorsett.

Meyers was an undrafted rookie.

Harry was a rookie who missed half the season (and hasn't done anything post-Judge either).

Sanu was hurt.

Whatever Judge's effectiveness actually was, I'm having a hard time seeing that coaching was the problem with the 2019 wide receivers, especially given how messy the OL was that year too.

You're missing the point, Sicilian. If one of the veteran WRs we had on the team said that to Judge during practice, that speaks volumes, imho.

Meyers has excelled since BROWN was the sole guy as WR coach. I think that what we saw from Bourne last year was also because of Brown.

If AB was the guy who told Judge off in practice, don't you think that would have been something that the Pats could have used to hasten Brown's exit?

If it was Edelman telling Judge off, wouldn't that have sent a huge message to the 3 rookies that they shouldn't be paying attention to him?

Doesn't it also give way to Brown spending a lot more time with them outside of practice when he was actually the Asst RB coach and not WR coach?