Semi OT: Flores suing NFL and NYG. Texts from Bill involved in the suit.

[‘Mondre]

Of course he's alleging that. You can make a "racism" claim whenever something is less than swimmingly.

No you can’t.

 

[RIpats88]

And we’d all want our teams to tank so that **** isn’t it either. Pretty sure we wanted us to tank for Trevor last year you’d want your team to tank for lebron we always say the owner wouldn’t let it. I’d be proud that my owner did that for a better pick hell I hope he buys the ****ing Kings

I think the whole paying to tank makes it worse. Like the game is rigged.

We know teams intentionally tank. The colts clearly tanked for luck. Putting the worst players out there.

 

[Steve102]

This is a mess. This is a real opportunity to expose the league for what it is. Flores better hope his lawyers are up to it. Among the crap that's about to go down:

• Rooney rule is a sham
• Dolphins in a fkkload of trouble IMO. Tampering, compromised integrity of the league. Chit. Storm.
• Giants nearly out of the woods. Lawyers will say that they followed the Sham Rooney Rule to the letter of the rule.

What if the Texans knew that Watson was fooling around with with Miami and Ross? What if Easterby drummed up all this crap on Watson to make him damaged goods so Miami (or anyone else) couldn't have him?

We could see how deep the rabbit hole goes here in the NFL. This is not good for this league.

 

[Dingleberry]

This is ****ing rad. **** it - Flores as the heir to BB.

Ya know, this is a great take. Flores may be so toxic that nobody will touch him.

DC for a few years until BB retires? Sign me up. I would love Flores as our next HC! It would be Al Davis all over again...hated by the league.

 

[upstater1]

Major props to Flores for speaking out. Ross is a ****ing piece of ****, as we all knew.

In the thread on Snyder I commented that racism was very pervasive at the owner level, so none of this is surprising.

Flores probably will never get another HC job in the NFL, but I take my hat off to him for bucking the rotten system that has ginger satan as its figurehead.

It is freaking crazy to me that you have all these sons of NFL execs and coaches in high positions and this league has one black head coach.

It stinks to high heaven

 

[Rob0729]

I would assume the prominent QB was Deshaun Watson. Watson was going into the last year of his rookie deal in 2020 and the negotiations between him and the team weren't going well at that point. I am also guessing that it was after the Texans traded away DeAndre Hopkins in March of 2020. That was reportedly Watson's breaking point with ownership until they gave him a break the bank extension which made Watson happy for like a couple of months.

 

[carmelo15]

The whole point of the Rooney Rule is to conduct sham interviews. If the Giants interviewed Daboll and absolutely loved him and want him hired, then that should be it. No more interviews. Instead, they're forced to find someone black to meet the stupid rule requirement and waste everyone's time.

!!!

 

[sean10mm]

The Dolphins paying their coach to throw games is amazing

Why pay for what you can get for free

 

[‘Mondre]

Didn’t the Williams sisters have a piece of ownership of the dolphins?

What happened to that?

We need more black owners too.

I feel this is bigger than kaep.

He’s definitely gonna get blackballed.

 

[RobertWeathers]

There is no realistic expectation anything will come of it.

Maybe. Maybe not

His will Flores prove what was said in a private conversation?

Maybe he has texts, emails, etc proving Ross was pushing for this.

The league certainly isn’t going to take the side of someone suing 3 of their teams, and we know the league takes sides, and chooses, or creates facts thereafter.

The color of his skin and the press on this story gets the NFL PR is does not want.

 

[sb1]

I think this is only the beginning of the fun time for the league. They're still sitting on a bunch of Gruden emails.

 

[Ring 6]

Will be interesting to see what kind of proof Flores has(emails, texts etc.) Don't think an attorney would file lawsuit without any evidence.

Depends on the goal of filing it. And piling unproven accusations on top of ones you think you can prove is typical.
He isn’t suing him for throwing games he is suing him for wrongful firing and giving examples of being asked to do unethical things to support why he would be fired after “the first back to back winning seasons since 2003”.
I’d be shocked that there is anything in writing, and if there were, I’m sure they would have extorted Ross instead of filing a lawsuit.

 

[PP2]

How can Flores prove Ross wanted to tank?

He will need emails, recordings, or other witnesses.

It will be easy to prove the presence of the "prominent quarterback" through travel receipts, depositions from eyewitnesses, et al. They'll also be deposing anyone within earshot of the conversation.

The law firm that took on this case knows that they are going up against a pretty powerful enemy. Don't think they would proceed if they didn't have a pretty compelling stack of evidence.

 

[raduray]

Sham is not the word I'd use. The Rooney rule is a strong arm tactic to try forcing teams to interview, and pressuring the teams to then hire, preferred groups of people, regardless of the particular preferences of those making the selection. It puts teams that have preferred candidates in the awkward position of having to pretend that they don't have those preferred candidates. That's a fault of the rule, not the team, but that's not how it gets presented.

It's like the Tuck rule. You may not have agreed with it, and ultimately it was discarded, but it had to be enforced.

 

[captain insano]

Simply demonstrating how the Rooney Rule is a sham

There shouldn't be a Rooney rule. Owners should be able to hire anybody they want. They OWN the team.

 

[PP2]

It is freaking crazy to me that you have all these sons of NFL execs and coaches in high positions and this league has one black head coach.

It stinks to high heaven

Add to that, zero black owners.

 

[RIpats88]

He's probably done in the NFL as a head coach with this lawsuit. No team is going to touch him.

Maybe the pats can hire him as DC

 

[Deus Irae]

Agree or disagree with the "spirit" of the rule, a rule was broken, and the rules need to be upheld at all costs.... that's been the history with the pats at least.

It was overblown when BB got crushed.
It was flat out wrong when Brady got hosed.
It was ridiculous when teams got punished for taking advantage of the uncapped year.
It was overblown when the Saints got crushed.


I'd rather have bad rules rescinded than used as a justification for heavy-handed actions by the league office.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Would anyone put it past the NFL to cheat whatever team Flores ends up with some BS officiating?

 

[Deus Irae]

It's like the Tuck rule. You may not have agreed with it, and ultimately it was discarded, but it had to be enforced.

It's not like the tuck rule. The tuck rule was an in game situation. This is not.