NFL GAME DAY DISCUSSION Official SF/GB playoff game thread, open for bidness...

[Bill Lee]

 

[NashuaPats]

One of the best things about sports is watching the greatest athletes in their sport elevate their games and give everything they have when the odds are against them and through adversity. Reaching down a little deeper to achieve greatness. The way Jordan would play in tough games. The way Brady has come through when his team was down and facing tons of criticism like made up cheating allegations. That’s inspirational, that’s exciting.

Even in losses, Brady has played truly great. Other athletes too. In last year’s Super Bowl, Mahomes was amazing to watch. Maybe he scrambled too much and too early, but he left everything he had out on that field. You had to tip your cap to him. I can’t say that about Rodgers in nearly all his playoff losses. When the going gets tough, he mopes. He has awful body language. He’s not rallying his team on the sideline or in the huddle. And he looks to be going through the motions on the field. He’s not reaching down deep to find that extra something that makes the greatest truly great. There was no fight in him towards the end of that game. Last year too.

I’ve thought this has been obvious for quite a few years now, but the media always gives him a pass and praise him with adulation. He’s a front runner. He’s also a me first type of person. You hear it in his comments and whining. Some of his former teammates have said it about him as well. That’s why I take joy in seeing him lose in this type of fashion yet again.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Gonna be interesting to watch GB blow it up.

They're just too top heavy salary cap wise to try to keep the band together, IMO.

And now it's an ideal time to move on, you can see this set of players can't get it done.

Welcome to the Jordan Love Era!

Jordan Love hasn’t shown too much in limited time. I wouldn’t be surprised if they grabbed a veteran to compete who then won the job. Their opponent’s QB might be one such candidate if they really feel comfortable with Lance.

 

[Bill Lee]

 

[rochrist]

Ever consider that his teams are average and he pulls them into the inevitable, having not even deserved that?

this clutch stuff is stupid. Playoff games are 11v11 just like the rest.

The problem with that -astute analysis- is that the past two years the Packers team has been ANYTHING but average.

 

[Bill Lee]

 

[Bill Lee]

 

[Bill Lee]

 

[Bill Lee]

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

The Rams are going to present a tough task for Brady, even at home, on D. Even if Wirfs and Jensen go, they’re gimpy.

Worse again injury & mental illness have decimated the passing game.
Tough pass rush on TFB may make him human. Getting 2007 SB vibes. Rogers is far more mobile and he got done in.
Rooting for a TFB vs JAG NFCCG. I'll take TFB vs Buff SB or TFB pounding Kermit.
A Brady W in any of those will be known as the "Whose Your Daddy?" game.

 

[rochrist]

It’s amazing how unlike any of the other major sports there is ZERO legitimate argument over who is the GOAT. It’s Brady and then a race for 2nd place.

Just think about it. In the NBA obviously Jordan is the usual choice but Lebron has his large camp and of course you’ve got people who’ll go to the mat to argue in favor of Kareem or Russell.

In MLB it’s a total crap shoot. What are we gonna judge this by, career WAR? I guess Babe Ruth is an easy choice because he has the wins and stats and obviously was the most dominant player of his era but is that more of a reflection on the era? I mean it was the damn 1920s. Ted Williams might be the best pure hitter ever but he never won crap. Mike Trout? Ahahahahah. And then you have pitchers in their own category.

Even the NHL is kind of a debate. Gretzky is like Jordan and is the usual choice but you have your Or camp, you have your Gordie Howe camp.

And arguing over who is the best soccer player ever can start wars.

We're in Massachusetts. Spell ORR properly d%#*!@t!

 

[‘Mondre]

The problem with that -astute analysis- is that the past two years the Packers team has been ANYTHING but average.

Over half of Rogers' tenure (7 of 13 years, injured in '17), their defense was ranked in the bottom half of the league in yards allowed.

6 of those 13 years they were bottom half of the league in points allowed.

Yet they only had a negative point differential in two years, one of them in '17 - he was out.

Negative margin of victory in two years excluding '17.

Only three years did they have a yardage differential in the bottom half of the league. Four counting '17.

Mind you they lost the game on special teams too.

Also Farve Won one sb (beat us), lost one... Favre and Rodgers are equal. Also Favre was in bottom half of league in Points three years to Rogers' 0.

They should be grateful and full of regret at the same time.

He's a gifted quarterback, but having a d helps you not only have to score less, but it creates less pressure for highlight-reel plays/hero ball because... well... point differnetial and statistics and such.

They gave him average defenses (which kinda leads us into our current situation with everybody wanting a Davante type, with a less-gifted QB)... literally average (see first line above)... and they paid for it in the postseason.

History will still treat him well. Ppl just mad that he's got this sigma male vibe and isn't good looking like Brady.

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[MahomestoKelce]

Favre.

Favre has 3 MVP's. Two SB trips. 1 SB win. He's been to 3 other championship games.

Look, Favre made alot of huge mistakes at critical junctures of playoff games. And I do think he gets overrated because of the streak and the great personality.

But the man was a great player who overcame personal demons that culminated in a championship.

 

[MahomestoKelce]

Over half of Rogers' tenure (7 of 13 years, injured in '17), their defense was ranked in the bottom half of the league in yards allowed.

6 of those 13 years they were bottom half of the league in points allowed.

Yet they only had a negative point differential in two years, one of them in '17 - he was out.

Negative margin of victory in two years excluding '17.

Only three years did they have a yardage differential in the bottom half of the league. Four counting '17.

Mind you they lost the game on special teams too.

Also Farve Won one sb (beat us), lost one... Favre and Rodgers are equal. Also Favre was in bottom half of league in Points three years to Rogers' 0.

They should be grateful and full of regret at the same time.

He's a gifted quarterback, but having a d helps you not only have to score less, but it creates less pressure for highlight-reel plays.

They gave him average defenses (which kinda leads us into our current situation with everybody wanting a Davante type, with a less-gifted QB)... literally average (see first line above)... and they paid for it in the postseason.

History will still treat him well. Ppl just mad that he's got this sigma male vibe and isn't good looking like Brady.

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Rodgers defense wasn't the issue this year. I'd argue it wasn't last year either.

 

[MahomestoKelce]

Last night was eerily similar to Brett Farve in 2007 losing to the Giants. I think Aaron gets his wish and the Packers move on from him as they clearly aren’t winning anything with him. 13-3 three straight years and not even one damn Super Bowl appearance? Pathetic.

Similar to the 2017-2020 Saints.

Great records.

Not one SB berth.

 

[‘Mondre]

Rodgers defense wasn't the issue this year. I'd argue it wasn't last year either.

They let an inferior QB score on them more. But I hear you. The d wasn't that bad.

Also inferior coaching.

and and AND... the narrative of the "choker" stuff... its because they didn't have the d that could've set them up for more byes, less insurmountable leads, etc.

That kind of stuff, being down, opens the door for mistakes out of haste.

 

[Guts]

Rodgers defense wasn't the issue this year. I'd argue it wasn't last year either.

When the opposing QB throws 3 picks you have to win that game @ home

 

[Jangles]

Watching Karen Rodgers choke nearly brings me as much joy as watching Brady win super bowls. Just love it

 

[MahomestoKelce]

There are still pundits (Mike Francesa, Rob Parker, Eric ****erson) who have Montana over Brady.

****erson is probably spiteful at Brady for beating his Rams twice in the big game.

Parker is a complete moron who has been fired from multiple networks.

Francesa was a NY Radio Host. Yankees lover. So he probably hates all Boston teams.

 

[‘Mondre]

When the opposing QB throws 3 picks you have to win that game @ home

Can somebody explain to me how home field advantage works? Is that actually a thing?