Drake London: The Next N'Keal Harry?

[Ochmed Jones]

Seems to be more good depth at WR in this draft. I don't think we need to use a 1st round pick on one - will be interesting to see how far Williams might fall after the ACL tear.

I'm not a big fan of London or Burks. Don't think either fits what we want to do. We need to find a quick twitch change of direction guy for Mac - a Waddle type.

you are looking for wandale Robinson of Kentucky!

 

[Gabriel_p94]

Seems to be more good depth at WR in this draft. I don't think we need to use a 1st round pick on one - will be interesting to see how far Williams might fall after the ACL tear.

I'm not a big fan of London or Burks. Don't think either fits what we want to do. We need to find a quick twitch change of direction guy for Mac - a Waddle type.

Im wondering the same with his injury or possibly george pickens not playing a full year, or if maybe John metchie declares those are all very good receivers that may be able to be taken in the second round.

 

[Username]

Im wondering the same with his injury or possibly george pickens not playing a full year, or if maybe John metchie declares those are all very good receivers that may be able to be taken in the second round.

I'm not at all convinced about Metchie

 

[masterbouncer]

I'm not at all convinced about Metchie

bc he gets pushed around at times by strong CBs? or other concerns with him?
i wouldn't take him either before R3 but at R3 or later would give him a shot, Mac and him already know each other if he is healthy he should be still an upgrade to the WR the pats currently have

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

Drake London isn’t the type of WR we need for Mac imo
We need speed a serious downfield threat at wideout and or a slot guy with quickness

 

[Scotty]

I think I would prefer Burks over London if I was asked to choose. However there are a few posters mentioning that a smaller quicker type of WR is whats needed eg Wan'dale Robinson

 

[Username]

bc he gets pushed around at times by strong CBs? or other concerns with him?
i wouldn't take him either before R3 but at R3 or later would give him a shot, Mac and him already know each other if he is healthy he should be still an upgrade to the WR the pats currently have

I don't think he tracks the ball very well, and his hands are suspect. Too many drops and a tendency to body catch. I also have concerns about his durability. He's a good route runner with good instincts and gets separation on most snaps and I would be perfectly happy taking him in the third round. But some mocks have him going in R1 which is too much of a gamble for me.

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I don't think he tracks the ball very well, and his hands are suspect. Too many drops and a tendency to body catch. I also have concerns about his durability. He's a good route runner with good instincts and gets separation on most snaps and I would be perfectly happy taking him in the third round. But some mocks have him going in R1 which is too much of a gamble for me.

our coaching staff and strength and conditioning program can cure metchie of these issues.

but I doubt metchie goes before the third round.

 

[Scotty]

I am not quite following the fall in draft round for Metchie.

If he was healthy then would he go in round 1 ? So, if he has a ACL tear, which I think is an injury that most players would recover from then teams would take a reasonable risk.....why the drop to maybe the 3rd round.

Is it a case teams would rather pick a healthy player or their needs are more important ??

 

[Ochmed Jones]

I am not quite following the fall in draft round for Metchie.

If he was healthy then would he go in round 1 ? So, if he has a ACL tear, which I think is an injury that most players would recover from then teams would take a reasonable risk.....why the drop to maybe the 3rd round.

Is it a case teams would rather pick a healthy player or their needs are more important ??

a couple of things on this:

1.) metchie drops quite a few passes.
2.) metchie’s strength is substandard and he is rather easily pushed off routes.
3.) typical recovery from an acl tear is 9 plus months. Which keeps him off the field for the whole offseason program, training camp and the first half of the season.

as I said, should go in the third round, if he decides to declare for the draft.

 

[Scotty]

a couple of things on this:

1.) metchie drops quite a few passes.
2.) metchie’s strength is substandard and he is rather easily pushed off routes.
3.) typical recovery from an acl tear is 9 plus months. Which keeps him off the field for the whole offseason program, training camp and the first half of the season.

as I said, should go in the third round, if he decides to declare for the draft.

Thanks for your comments and details it will help me look at things less shallow !!

 

[scott99]

I think London has a decent amount of more speed than Harry,

 

[Username]

I think London has a decent amount of more speed than Harry,

Perhaps, but not a significant amount. And that was before his injury.

 

[Toofy]

Get skyyy Moore.. he could be the value pick in late 2nd round or early 3rd round...

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

I just watched some Jameson Williams highlights, whew. He is the next Waddle, serious speed; he can accelerate on the fly the way Waddle does (and the way Rice did). He is the opposite of Drake London; he can get open, wide open. He seems to easily able to outrun CBs, and not just any old CB but SEC CBs; no many WRs can do that.

Will he fall to 21 because of his injury? Ha, he probably does a lousy interview so BB has taken him off his draft board. He did get flagged for mocking a guy he beat; another strike in BB's evaluation...

Of course, if the Patriots draft Jameson, they will have to wait a year to use him and will need to improve their OL so Mac has the time to find him downfield. BTW, as much as I love Bryce Young, I can see that Mac is more accurate (but not as mobile, of course).

 

[Boomer B]

I want no part of London. We need a guy who can separate.

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

I think we will all be watching the WR picks in the first round with baited breath. If the Patriots draft London, I will throw my beer at the TV, like Bluto in Animal House. But I am pretty sure they will not be that stupid again(?), nor will anyone in the first round, but I am holding out hope that the Jets picks him. I am pretty sure London will fall way down in the draft.

The real intrigue will be where Jameson Williams goes. He is a medical risk and will have to sit a year; most teams will not have the patience. Also he will not be able to run at the Combine or anywhere else so that uncertainty will scare off a lot of teams (I hope), but you can tell he has a elite speed just by watching him outrun SEC CBs. BB will not like him because he is so high-spirited...but, of course, he is just what the Patriots need, someone to stretch the defense, blow its cover off. A real longshot for the Patriots, unless they tie BB to the mast. If the Patriots do draft him, I can see him pulling a Parcells/Terry Glenn...

 

[FredFromDartmouth]

you are looking for wandale Robinson of Kentucky!

I watched some highlights (all of 3 minutes!), and Wan'Dale Robinson is exciting indeed. He is small and feisty, but he needs to go down quickly lest some Cam Chancellor type removes his head. He has a good short burst and can get open (are you listening BB?), but he does not have a good top speed; I saw some linebackers catch up with him. Mid-round pick I expect, but he would be a good slot guy for the Patriots. I don't think that his 40 time will be that good, but that is OK since he can get open.

 

[scott99]

I think people are too focused on 40 times. For instance, Harry’s 4.53 isn’t the reason he sucks. His college success just never translated to the NFL. There are a lot of receivers who are burners, but they sucked in the NFL. Some players don’t become good NFL players, it’s as simple as that.

Here is a list of players with so called “slow” 40’s


Cooper Kupp 4.62

Davante Adams 4.56

Keenan Allen 4.56

Diontae Johnson 4.53

Hunter Renfrow 4.59

Amon-Ra St Brown 4.51

Michael Pittman 4.52

Jakobi Meyers 4.63

Mike Evans 4.53

Deebo Samuel 4.48

Ceedee Lamb 4.50

Mike Williams 4.53

Samuel being the fastest at 4.48, which isn’t even THAT much faster than Harry’s 4.53.

Look at the top 2, they just happened to be the top 2 receivers in the NFL as far as catches. I’d be thrilled to have ANY of those receivers on that list. 11 of the 12 on that list ran a 4.5 or higher. In fact Kupp, you can go back and look, people were saying negative things about him because of his combine numbers. Bottom line, Harry just isn’t a good receiver, has nothing to do with his 40 time. Meyers ran a much slower 40 than Harry. I think with Harry, it’s all mental.

 

[Boomer B]

I think people are too focused on 40 times. For instance, Harry’s 4.53 isn’t the reason he sucks. His college success just never translated to the NFL. There are a lot of receivers who are burners, but they sucked in the NFL. Some players don’t become good NFL players, it’s as simple as that.

Here is a list of players with so called “slow” 40’s


Cooper Kupp 4.62

Davante Adams 4.56

Keenan Allen 4.56

Diontae Johnson 4.53

Hunter Renfrow 4.59

Amon-Ra St Brown 4.51

Michael Pittman 4.52

Jakobi Meyers 4.63

Mike Evans 4.53

Deebo Samuel 4.48

Ceedee Lamb 4.50

Mike Williams 4.53

Samuel being the fastest at 4.48, which isn’t even THAT much faster than Harry’s 4.53.

Look at the top 2, they just happened to be the top 2 receivers in the NFL as far as catches. I’d be thrilled to have ANY of those receivers on that list. 11 of the 12 on that list ran a 4.5 or higher. In fact Kupp, you can go back and look, people were saying negative things about him because of his combine numbers. Bottom line, Harry just isn’t a good receiver, has nothing to do with his 40 time. Meyers ran a much slower 40 than Harry. I think with Harry, it’s all mental.

For me it’s not 40 time, it’s the ability to create separation. Give your QB some easier throws then having to fit it into a tight window all the time.