Dugger possible COVID positive or contact (edit: added to Reserve/Covid list)

[Clonamery]

I never liked that guy!

Why would you?

 

[Kontradiction]

Memes can help or hurt a point trying to be made, your thoughts?

They have more brain power behind them than 75% of the posts on the topic. Laughing helps ease the fear.

 

[Clonamery]

Probably against my better judgment I'll respond to your nonsense one final time: The assumption posed in your last question is telltale. Frontline healthcare workers opting to bail on their jobs in lieu of getting getting vaccinated represent a minuscule number of outliers hardly worth mention, no doubt exaggerated by whatever information source you've bought into. It's not only irrelevant, the very notion defies basic medical common sense.

You have bought into harmful misinformation and half-truths fitting a subjectively predetermined political/cultural narrative. You're so entrenched in this simplistic virtual reality, the very nature of the questions you ask indicate no room for genuine openness or objectivity. It's all an agenda-driven quest for self-validation, reassurance that you're clever enough to have successfully navigated the vast web of diabolical conspiracies and alleged "MSM" brainwashing. Of course, none of this will change what or how you think, which is your misfortune.

See humans argue with cement makes me sad, man.

 

[Fuzz]

I guess Dugger gets to have a one week vacation because covid seems overblown. Every athlete seems asymptomatic. Rodgers is almost 40/ unvaccinated, and not a single person seemed concerned if he might end up on a ventilator or die. They only cared that he lied. I also think it is bs that Massachusetts has taken upon itself to make the flu shot required for schooling even though flu has been lower than ever with social distancing and quarantines. Sorry 4 the rant. I don't want to tempt fate etc but I am one of those blessed individuals that does not get sick. No pain pills and not even so much as a cough drop. So Covid and everything else in the medical field are pissing me off these days.

Dugger isnt being asked to quarantine to protect himself. He's being asked to quarantine to protect others. Asymptomatic people can still infect others. And those people can then infect more people (and on and on). If left unchecked, that outbreak is 100% likely to hurt/kill someone down the line.

 

[amfootball]

The issue I see for the rest of the season is the vax is only good 6 months with many players/coaches getting vaxed in the spring and summer, and of course even then there have been a lot of breakthroughs. The NFL has not yet said clubs have to get the booster so they are between a rock and a hard place right now which makes sense to increase protocols for everyone.

 

[Joker]

Why would you?

The Beasley's had a daughter with double D gazongas living next door...I thought Cole was my buddy when I used to climb the ladder to peep...one night he kicked the ladder out from under me and I fell into the fenced in area where their Rottweiler, Bruno was sleeping...not a good night for ol' Joe "Mr Peepers" Kerr...phck that Cole Beasley to the deepest hell!

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

No. Williams is a DB, and Collins is an ILB. Neither of them can play safety.

Williams has practiced and played safety. Not sure what you mean.

 

[doesntmatter1]

Dugger isnt being asked to quarantine to protect himself. He's being asked to quarantine to protect others. Asymptomatic people can still infect others.

Agree, but I'm just bitter and feeling like the vaccine is nothing more than a placeabo and tests are bogus. I just find it strange that such a deadly pandemic is out of their body before the next game without fail. I could be 100% wrong but I get the feeling that if they didn't test for covid at all the games would play out the same like they have for decades since the majority are vaccinated and are asymptomatic.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

Knox is a TE, you don't cover a TE with a CB and a interior LB has different responsibilities.

I think we may activate Bledsoe to plug in place and keep that big nickel package intact.

DBs, Safeties, and LBs cover TEs in BB defensive schemes all the time. I am lost what your point is.

 

[Sicilian]

No. Williams is a DB, and Collins is an ILB. Neither of them can play safety.

I think we need to differentiate between playing safety (as in, doing everything that a safety does all the time) and sharing some of the responsibilities that a safety has on an individual play. Can Collins play deep safety as part of a cover 2 shell? Hell no. But could he play more in the box zones to cover backs in the flat or tight ends over the middle? Yes. Maybe not as well as Dugger, otherwise we wouldn't be using Dugger as much as we do, but Collins CAN do it.

Similar with Williams. Do I want him in the box sticking his nose in the trenches on run fits like Dugger/Phillips do? No, but can he take some of Dugger's man snaps against Dawson Knox? Sure can.

The biggest difference will be you'd need to piece together those responsibilities from 2 or 3 other players, rather than having Kyle able to fill them all.

 

[PP2]

Williams has practiced and played safety. Not sure what you mean.

I'm talking about man to man.

 

[PP2]

DBs, Safeties, and LBs cover TEs in BB defensive schemes all the time. I am lost what your point is.

In zone schemes they only cover their zone areas. In man to man, you don't want a CB on a TE.

 

[PP2]

I think we need to differentiate between playing safety (as in, doing everything that a safety does all the time) and sharing some of the responsibilities that a safety has on an individual play. Can Collins play deep safety as part of a cover 2 shell? Hell no. But could he play more in the box zones to cover backs in the flat or tight ends over the middle? Yes. Maybe not as well as Dugger, otherwise we wouldn't be using Dugger as much as we do, but Collins CAN do it.

Similar with Williams. Do I want him in the box sticking his nose in the trenches on run fits like Dugger/Phillips do? No, but can he take some of Dugger's man snaps against Dawson Knox? Sure can.

The biggest difference will be you'd need to piece together those responsibilities from 2 or 3 other players, rather than having Kyle able to fill them all.

If you do this, you run the risk of complicating things one degree too much, and players start losing track of who's covering who. Remember the big mess we had with zone coverages when Patricia was running things, a few years ago? He's a pure intellectual who overcomplicates things.

Right now our zone defense is the best that it has been in a very long time. I wouldn't want to mess with that- my thinking is that we either activiate Bledsoe as a one-time plug in, or we just switch Phillips over and shelf our big nickel package for this game.

 

[Sicilian]

If you do this, you run the risk of complicating things one degree too much, and players start losing track of who's covering who. Remember the big mess we had with zone coverages when Patricia was running things, a few years ago? He's a pure intellectual who overcomplicates things.

Right now our zone defense is the best that it has been in a very long time. I wouldn't want to mess with that- my thinking is that we either activiate Bledsoe as a one-time plug in, or we just switch Phillips over and shelf our big nickel package for this game.

I don't mean that you're suddenly using Collins and Williams on the same play and telling them to combine to be Kyle Dugger. What I meant was, if the playcall was zone, and you were going to have Dugger in a short zone underneath (or a run fit), you roll Collins out there. But if the play call is man, and Dugger would have been lined up on Knox, you roll out Williams. Those are just examples, I don't know if they evaluate those players the same way, but instead of just having Dugger out there for both plays (which is preferable because he's better at them and the defense can't key in on the coverage as easily), you play your guys to their respective roles. It's not ideal, but neither is playing a rookie fresh off NFI, or any other player 1 to 1 trying to fill Dugger's role. I do agree with your last point though, that they may just decide to play less big nickel style defense altogether (which may have been part of the plan anyway with how WR-centric the Bills offense is).

 

[FCB02062]

this sucks....bet he doesn't even have symptoms

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

In zone schemes they only cover their zone areas. In man to man, you don't want a CB on a TE.

The Pats play a DB on a TE in man-to-man - still lost in what you are referring to. From a NESN article after we played Miami last year.

Williams, New England’s second-round pick in last year’s NFL draft, lined up opposite tight end Mike Gesicki on each of his 27 defensive snaps in the Patriots’ 21-11 victory over the Miami Dolphins at Gillette Stadium.

The vast majority of those snaps called for Williams to match up with Gesicki in man coverage, often in key situations. He did so on 11 of Miami’s 13 third downs, one fourth down and one two-point conversion.

 

[The Brandon Five]

In zone schemes they only cover their zone areas. In man to man, you don't want a CB on a TE.

I remember when Jalen Ramsey was trash-talking before the AFCCG in January 2018 that someone posted the #'s that showed Gronk was much less effective when covered by a CB.

 

[Froob]

this sucks....bet he doesn't even have symptoms

You can still spread asymptomatic.

 

[RobertWeathers]

He's a clown.

I liked him a lot once upon a time...thought he was plain-spoken and passing along valuable info. When i mentioned that at a party full of doctors, they told me the truth about him: Snake-oil salesman.

Hes Alex Guerrero now with an M.D

 

[PP2]

I don't mean that you're suddenly using Collins and Williams on the same play and telling them to combine to be Kyle Dugger. What I meant was, if the playcall was zone, and you were going to have Dugger in a short zone underneath (or a run fit), you roll Collins out there. But if the play call is man, and Dugger would have been lined up on Knox, you roll out Williams. Those are just examples, I don't know if they evaluate those players the same way, but instead of just having Dugger out there for both plays (which is preferable because he's better at them and the defense can't key in on the coverage as easily), you play your guys to their respective roles. It's not ideal, but neither is playing a rookie fresh off NFI, or any other player 1 to 1 trying to fill Dugger's role. I do agree with your last point though, that they may just decide to play less big nickel style defense altogether (which may have been part of the plan anyway with how WR-centric the Bills offense is).

Understood.. and from what I understand, Dugger was MIA in yesterday's practice which is install day (that would have been planned the night before) and you don't know if he'll be back (if he's vaccinated all he needs is 2 negative tests 24 hours apart). With that in mind, I'd rather go with a plug in piece than a mix of responsibilities and asking players to take on new, additional keys.