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Mac is clearly not processing things quickly enough. When he does go short it's always too late, and this limits YAC. The defenses are doing to him what they should, which is drop back and flood the zones. Even the Bourne TD last night was an incredibly tight throw between two DBs. There's not going to be much room when the defense doesn't respect your short game. I constantly see wide open guys in the flat for Mac, usually Jonnu Smith, but he doesn't go there as he's processing his reads. The team needs to take advantage of that space to get YAC and force the defenses to respect the short game.
Be careful criticizing or not slurping Mac around here. This is a safe space but stay strapped out there. The Mac Maniacs will appear out of nowhere get your a ss.

I hear ya though. It's still taking time to adjust to NFL play speed. That was evident early on. Less so now but it's still there in certain instances. He's well on his way but learning when he can challenge certain players and coverages.

There are certain plays where we're so slow getting set on the line. We saw the motion mishap yesterday. Didn't look like Josh and Mac were on the same page on a few occasions. Physically and mentally we have to be a lot faster. A lot and not just Mac but he has to be the vocal leader out there. Actually glad to see him getting pissed. Usually that means someone is about to really take over.
I share your thoughts on Josh McD and I think he's managing our rookie better than anyone else is managing theirs.
It's amazing how much dumb blind hate he gets. He has his faults but Cowboy fans are going after Moore (OC) rn and he could have been a HC last year. MM is keeping the seat warm until Jerry feels he's ready. Anyway Josh has done an A+ job bringing Mac along. I've mentioned what Fields is going through with his slow HC rn. I mean we've seen it multiple times, dumb team ruins player by doing dumb things.

And regarding play calling I'm not sure if people think we're calling 5 yard routes or w/e but guys have been open down field. Very few "deep" misses but we've had more than a few guys open for chunks and for several reasons wasn't targeted. Some of it is on Mac, most is on the OL imo.
I am at this point very frustrated by Agholor. We need a huge talent upgrade there. I know we all had doubts when he was signed but the frustrating thing is you see players like Cee Dee Lamb out there and it was almost like he surprised the Patriots coaches. What you saw last night was all over his college tape. Not a surprise at all. I'd like to see us finally grab a #1 receiver somehow. I know it won't be in the FA market though.
This is incredibly frustrating bc it's really not hard to draft a good WR. It's really not. We've had some bad luck but it's mostly just not attacking it with multiple picks and bad evals.
We need a YAC guy in the worst way. I wonder how things are between Aiyuk and 49ers right about now. We need someone like that / real slot option and a bully imo. We have route runners.

And it's tough with Agholor. We just don't the opportunities bc of our OL. Big drop yesterday. We definitely need more out of him.
We have great opportunities this offseason to shore up our D as some big contracts come off the books in Hightower and Gilmore. I don't know about McCourty's future, but that money should go to a #1 CB. Hopefully someone is so strapped they can't sign their stud CB--another Gilmore situation.
We need another legit CB opposite JC, 1A/B situation. We need another DL'm. It's so annoying watching nobody get ANY push besides Judon, Barmore and Uche once and a while. It's a must imo. We have to build this DL back up. And obviously tackle, maybe IOL. LB. It's a list.

We don't have a ton of money but could get to 30 + million pretty easy I believe.
 
Be careful criticizing or not slurping Mac around here. This is a safe space but stay strapped out there. The Mac Maniacs will appear out of nowhere get your a ss.

I hear ya though. It's still taking time to adjust to NFL play speed. That was evident early on. Less so now but it's still there in certain instances. He's well on his way but learning when he can challenge certain players and coverages.

There are certain plays where we're so slow getting set on the line. We saw the motion mishap yesterday. Didn't look like Josh and Mac were on the same page on a few occasions. Physically and mentally we have to be a lot faster. A lot and not just Mac but he has to be the vocal leader out there. Actually glad to see him getting pissed. Usually that means someone is about to really take over.

It's amazing how much dumb blind hate he gets. He has his faults but Cowboy fans are going after Moore (OC) rn and he could have been a HC last year. MM is keeping the seat warm until Jerry feels he's ready. Anyway Josh has done an A+ job bringing Mac along. I've mentioned what Fields is going through with his slow HC rn. I mean we've seen it multiple times, dumb team ruins player by doing dumb things.

And regarding play calling I'm not sure if people think we're calling 5 yard routes or w/e but guys have been open down field. Very few "deep" misses but we've had more than a few guys open for chunks and for several reasons wasn't targeted. Some of it is on Mac, most is on the OL imo.

This is incredibly frustrating bc it's really not hard to draft a good WR. It's really not. We've had some bad luck but it's mostly just not attacking it with multiple picks and bad evals.
We need a YAC guy in the worst way. I wonder how things are between Aiyuk and 49ers right about now. We need someone like that / real slot option and a bully imo. We have route runners.

And it's tough with Agholor. We just don't the opportunities bc of our OL. Big drop yesterday. We definitely need more out of him.

We need another legit CB opposite JC, 1A/B situation. We need another DL'm. It's so annoying watching nobody get ANY push besides Judon, Barmore and Uche once and a while. It's a must imo. We have to build this DL back up. And obviously tackle, maybe IOL. LB. It's a list.

We don't have a ton of money but could get to 30 + million pretty easy I believe.
I am a Mac fan. I am definitely preaching patience. I believe the offense isn't clicking quickly enough for people because of a rookie progression. Normal NFL stuff. I also tend not to blame the OL with of course the tackle problem. When our offense starts dictating more (and that will come) most of the OL problems will disappear.

If it were me, I'd move Onwenu back to RT and save my picks for later round guards.
Same with LBs--we can pick up very good ones later in the draft.

CB and WR are my priorities.
 
The amount of time adults spend on Tik Tok is pretty sad. I won't be surprised to see him get punched in mouth by a Florida boy. He's creepy and weird I'm sorry. And I'm judging Mahomes too for his headcase wife (?) and what his brother does. I'm sorry but give me Aaron Rodgers all day who would exile both for a win. Seriously though can you imagine waking up next to and having real convo's with Britt? Hanging out with Jackson?

 
I am a Mac fan. I am definitely preaching patience. I believe the offense isn't clicking quickly enough for people because of a rookie progression. Normal NFL stuff. I also tend not to blame the OL with of course the tackle problem. When our offense starts dictating more (and that will come) most of the OL problems will disappear.

If it were me, I'd move Onwenu back to RT and save my picks for later round guards.
Same with LBs--we can pick up very good ones later in the draft.

CB and WR are my priorities.
Disagree about the OL. Harris was getting hit behind the los as much as anyone coming into the week. Run blocking has been ****. Short yardage hasn't been as good as it should be imo. Onwenu wasn't really killing it at G. Neither was Andrews.

I definitely think they've played a big role but definitely agree about Mac as well. He's been good for a rookie which is rare but yea he's being brought along slowly amd has made his fair share of mistakes for sure.
 
The amount of time adults spend on Tik Tok is pretty sad. I won't be surprised to see him get punched in mouth by a Florida boy. He's creepy and weird I'm sorry. And I'm judging Mahomes too for his headcase wife (?) and what his brother does. I'm sorry but give me Aaron Rodgers all day who would exile both for a win. Seriously though can you imagine waking up next to and having real convo's with Britt? Hanging out with Jackson?



Just plain disrespectful. **** the Entire Mahomeys family and the ENTIRE KC Queefs organization and Everyone in it.
 
This is something I've been saying, hoping teams would do with Mac even before we drafted him. And obviously when we drafted I thought it would help make the transition as smooth as possible. I thought we'd see it for sure.

Mac was excellent with these in college and they work in the pros as well. It's hardly just a gimmick. They work and they're extremely difficult to defend. The help create some rhythm and balance on offense and for w/e reason we're not seeing them. Lazar asked Josh about them and Josh said "it's not something we major in" ... I mean you just picked a QB 15th overall and he was almost perfect with them in college. It might be something you want to make happen if you're QB was this efficient in college.
Not to mention the fact that we have Meyers and Bourne who run nice slot / slant routes.



Everyone loves certain aspects of the game and has their pet peeves on the other end. It kills me seeing QB's stand, survey, move around in the pocket and wait out good coverage without fear until someone inevitably gets free for a half second and converts 3rd and long. It's just beyond frustrating bc we know what it takes to beat a good - great QB like Brady, Dak ... You have to hit those guys, get them throwing out of rhythm, off-platform.

We came out the gate firing in terms of generating pressure the first couple games but have cooled off considerably. Falling below league average the past few games which is around 35% I believe. We've been struggling to hit 20% the last couple. Now some of that is the mush rush we threw at Dak, part of it is we simply can't get to the QB on a consistent basis when we have to. Certainly not without design (stunts) and again that's been hit or miss in terms of our usage and effectiveness. I doubt we see Barmore hit his peak until sometime next year, early year 3. Doesn't mean he won't be effective in between. Just in terms of what we're asking or can expect. Judon is one guy that has been great, but one guy nonetheless.

We definitely haven't unleashed Uche as he hasn't played more than 30 snaps a game. 0 one game. I thought we might try him inside at some point. We're like 25 years behind and still looking for Brandon Spikes (I love Spikes more than most, one of my favs to watch but it's 2022!!!) Again I was hoping we might have tinkered with Uche in the middle bc the 2nd level is missing lateral speed like there's no tomorrow. Bill wants his guys taken on linemen, heavy hands (which Uche does have) and mixing it up down in trenches. He's run > pass with this position while the rest of the league is desperately trying to find another Warner, Leonard, Telvin Smith, Barr ... It's not easy but I'd like to see some flexibility in the future with the LB spot.
 
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This is something I've been saying, hoping teams would do with Mac even before we drafted him. And obviously when we drafted I thought it would help make the transition as smooth as possible. I thought we'd see it for sure.

Mac was excellent with these in college and they work in the pros as well. It's hardly just a gimmick. They work and they're extremely difficult to defend. The help create some rhythm and balance on offense and for w/e reason we're not seeing them. Lazar asked Josh about them and Josh said "it's not something we major in" ... I mean you just picked a QB 15th overall and he was almost perfect with them in college. It might be something you want to make happen if you're QB was this efficient in college.
Not to mention the fact that we have Meyers and Bourne who run nice slot / slant routes.



Everyone loves certain aspects of the game and has their pet peeves on the other end. It kills me seeing QB's stand, survey, move around in the pocket and wait out good coverage without fear until someone inevitably gets free for a half second and converts 3rd and long. It's just beyond frustrating bc we know what it takes to beat a good - great QB like Brady, Dak ... You have to hit those guys, get them throwing out of rhythm, off-platform.

We came out the gate firing in terms of generating pressure the first couple games but have cooled off considerably. Falling below league average the past few games which is around 35% I believe. We've been struggling to hit 20% the last couple. Now some of that is the mush rush we threw at Dak, part of it is we simply can't get to the QB on a consistent basis when we have to. Certainly not without design (stunts) and again that's been hit or miss in terms of our usage and effectiveness. I doubt we see Barmore hit his peak until sometime next year, early year 3. Doesn't mean he won't be effective in between. Just in terms of what we're asking or can expect. Judon is one guy that has been great, but one guy nonetheless.

We definitely haven't unleashed Uche as he hasn't played more than 30 snaps a game. 0 one game. I thought we might try him inside at some point. We're like 25 years behind and still looking for Brandon Spikes (I love Spikes more than most, one of my favs to watch but it's 2022!!!) Again I was hoping we might have tinkered with Uche in the middle bc the 2nd level is missing lateral speed like there's no tomorrow. Bill wants his guys taken on linemen, heavy hands (which Uche does have) and mixing it up down in trenches. He's run > pass with this position while the rest of the league is desperately trying to find another Warner, Leonard, Telvin Smith, Barr ... It's not easy but I'd like to see some flexibility in the future with the LB spot.

I really like Barmore and I'm fine with that pick, but Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah was right there. Wouldn't even have required a trade up and he's as close to a prototype as you can get for the hybrid second/third level "rover" that's becoming absolutely necessary in this era of football. Dude never has to come off the field, can play anywhere and he's basically a slightly smaller Uche on speed.

Hindsight is 20/20 and there will be more of those guys available going forward, so I'm not slamming them for it, but that's the type of defensive player you need to combat multiple sets and personnel mismatches that arise from them.
 
Indeed. Being a ****ty human being is detrimental to success as a coach. Coaches who are ****ty human beings and still achieve success do it in spite of their borderline sociopathic personalities.

People can fight against progress all they want, but it simply can't be stopped.
Exactly, most players are "good soldiers" and will put blinders on, play for their teammates, play for a check, their family etc ...

This dude is one of my new fav's
Smart but a football football guy. Loves when coaches say "OK" honestly I love it bc they're so point driven. Like every word is a message and they want to make sure everything gets through. Lol love it. Plus a lot of people including myself have been saying you don't need to run the ball to have a successful PA game but he explains it so articulately.

For those that have read my post lol (@Ice_Ice_Brady) know I'm not a fan of paying RB's or drafting them high but I absolutely love the running game. What goes into it. The technique, movements, precision everyone needs to play with.

I love how everyone is moving and accomplishing something. And like coach said the physicality of it is so key. Moving men yards off the ball over and over or even just making it a fight makes a big difference in how / what an opponent might do.



Love me some OK's.


Coach-mode


Seems like a decent guy with some perspective.


I really like Barmore and I'm fine with that pick, but Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah was right there. Wouldn't even have required a trade up and he's as close to a prototype as you can get for the hybrid second/third level "rover" that's becoming absolutely necessary in this era of football. Dude never has to come off the field, can play anywhere and he's basically a slightly smaller Uche on speed.

Hindsight is 20/20 and there will be more of those guys available going forward, so I'm not slamming them for it, but that's the type of defensive player you need to combat multiple sets and personnel mismatches that arise from them.
I changed the board around a few times before the draft trying to get it just right but this was one of the final ones. I was wrong (Fields) about about a few players but I love JOK and he was one of the few non-QB's I liked in round one. He's doing great this year as well btw. Some struggles but his overall game and physicality is showing up every game imo. I watch a lot of Browns bc Garrett is my fav player to watch and he's doing well.

I had Barmore and Perkins on there but took them off a few weeks before the draft. Even though I asked the question if Barmore was a "missing piece" on this defense considering the amount of run stoppers we loaded up on but took him off. I liked Perkins as well but again just had a feeling. Can't win them all. Dark green is top ten, light first round and blue second. Somewhat, kinda how I grade/place value when I grade prospects.
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Excited to see to see a real rebuild and hopefully we get one. The next two drafts. & FA are enormous. Bill's legacy, team we put around Mac, don't want to be a middling - mediocre team for years and be in no man's land. There as big as it gets.
 
Slater has really impressed me this Season. Can’t wait to see us play them in that new stadium, which I hear makes jerry world look like the motel 6!
 
Looked into a few teams that ran / run a lot of 12P bc of our FA acquisitions / current offense. Houston, SF, GB, Phila, Miami, Dallas, Arizona and noticed a common theme. All have one dominant - borderline dominant - very good inline blockers at the TE position. Lee Smith, Shaheen, Fells and Marcedes Lewis are practically small OL'm. Kittle, Goedert and Schultz are all really good - great blockers. As you can see from the names some can do real damage in the passing game but it's more than apparent teams want a bully up front.

A big part of why you want that killer up front to run 12P is it helps you take advantage and have a presence in every gap in the run game. Even if he's slightly detached. It's an attitude, mindset thing as well. This is a great clip and Staley seems like a decent coach / person. Again it's an attitude thing where you're letting your opponents know what type of team you're going to be.


So you have the ability to run anywhere but also have several rec threats - this is where guys like Goedert, Kittle, Gronk are invaluable imo. These guys don't grow in trees. They can run / pass block, block in space, short yardage and make a tough 25 yard catch down the seam.

Idk if I was an OC or team I'd be talking to people and seriously consider this as an identity if you're rebuilding or w/e. It just allows for so much flexibility and creativity with the amount of unbalanced looks you can create with motion. The easy yards you can pick up off of misdirection with leak routes.

I'm wondering if we just had so much confidence in our OL. Sure Smith and Henry aren't killers but both are good enough to average. I mentioned how important I thought Asiasi might be bc if you're running a lot of 12P you obviously need more than two TE to give them a break, injuries etc ... Certainly not saying Asiasi would be the difference but again just wondering what the plan was there and assuming it's bc we thought we had a baadass OL and could get by with what we have but the absence of a 3rd TE is curious to me. Very possible we / I overestimated how much we'd use it too.

Just something I noticed and thought I'd pass along
 
Didn't catch the game live but watched the full replay. Was a bit miffed when I saw Agholor's TD come early on the Bourne pass, because when I glanced at the box score (before watching the game) I had assumed Mac and Agholor finally hit a deep one, but apparently not. Nonetheless, he got the deep-shot I wanted to see on the throw to Bourne (over 50 yards in the air, I read; that was an NFL caliber throw and he didn't have a ton of room to step into it).

If Mac can make that throw as a rookie, his arm strength is more than fine. Arm velocity is a bit different of a trait than pure airborne time, and I still think Mac could benefit from more zip on some of his throws, which I believe he'll develop as he physically matures and gets more time in an NFL strength/conditioning program.

Some of the arm velocity, too, is footwork and mechanical, and Mac has some sloppy habits on shorter throws with his feet which sometimes might affect the ball velocity. That said, I'm sure the team is toeing a fine line between trying to coach that out and just letting the guy play in a way that's most comfortable/intuitive. Sometimes guys are more accurate/comfortable with their own habits and trying to break those through methodical technique reworks can do more harm than good. It's something I think they'll try to work with him on this offseason (strength/arm velocity in general, part of which will be resetting his feet and making sure his leverage/technique is sound).

Mac aside, Harris is as good of a player/human-being combination as you'll find. Quietly becoming one of my favorite Patriots (ever). Glad to see them get Jonnu touches early and specifically target him. More of that, please. Hopefully the shoulder is relatively minor.

Beyond that, the offensive line looked rock solid. I was fully in the camp that Onwenu would be equally good at G, and maybe he could be under the right circumstances, but he looks out of this world at RT. I'm not sure what it is, but my sense is that he's stronger than most LEs, and equally as quick. Watching him work at RT is a thing of beauty. That got me thinking where Brown will play if/when he returns. Wynn was better this week but still not great. Do you do a 1:1 swap, Brown for Wynn? Does either Onwenu or Wynn kick inside, and Karras sits? Will be interesting to see.

They need a true boundary WR. Even after they signed Bourne & Agholor I remember it being reported that they were still pursuing another WR (at the time it was said to be AJ Green). I think this team, regardless of the QB, needs a true boundary WR ... but especially so with Mac Jones and his throwing style/comfort zone; he throws with such touch & seems to like those go/fade routes outside the numbers, so I think those type of receivers specifically (Devonta Smith is a perfect example) will be sought going forward.

They made some defensive adjustments this week. A big one was the 4-man rush, and specifically getting a guy with his hand in the dirt opposite Barmore. Remember all those stats about Barmore drawing the most double teams? Watching the first 5-6 weeks of the season, on obvious passing situations Barmore was almost always the only guy on the inside of a 3-man line, so naturally he got doubled a lot and his production (while impressive) was limited. They specifically put Ekuale next to Barmore to eat some blocks and create more space for Barmore, and ************ did he feast. That is the type of forward-thinking, subtle but significant coaching adjustments that we've come to appreciate from Belichick/Patriots.

The early blitz by Myles Bryant was a good tendency breaker. Judon is still a beast. Carl Davis/Godchaux/Guy are good, not great on the interior. They're fine, but they need a young running mate next to Barmore to develop. Ideally that running mate would be more in the mold of a run-defender, but with 3-down capability. If they could manage to get their hands on Jordan Davis (the UGA DT) I would completely sh*t my pants.

Losing DMac for at least part of the game (hopefully not too long-term) may have been a bit of a blessing in disguise. I can't remember the last time they secondary didn't have him on the field, and with his career clearly coming to an end soon they need to get used to life without him and I thought they managed well in his absence, no busted coverages or blown plays. I'd still like to see Dugger in more of a deep, MoF, zone role (I think his closing speed and instincts are special and having him chasing bodies near LOS and not playing with his eyes might not be his best role).

Bentley, as much as I still don't like seeing him in space, has been consistent this season. If they could trim him down 5-10 lbs, he might actually be a 3-down NFL LB. I don't watch him and think he'd lose much of his run stuffing ability and physicality if he dropped 5-7 lbs. 10 might be too much to lose, but getting him from his listed weight of 255 to 248 may not be a bad idea. If this isn't a possibility, or if it was to happen but wouldn't make Bentley any more nimble in space, then they need to another MLB (or two) soon. McGrone is a good step in the right direction.

Uche's playing time is dwindling. I hope they try him inside before giving up on the guy. He's not a 3-down player at this point, not nearly good enough against the run, and doesn't seem particularly instinctive. He's really stinking athletic, and that's about it. I'm not sure that he'll have a role inside, but beyond being a situational rusher/spy, he doesn't currently have any other place on the team, so it's worth a shot. He's fine in his current role but I haven't seen anything particularly encouraging from him, or anything that indicates progress/growth.

I mentioned a week or two ago that (based on reading another forum which has some plugged-in folks) Caserio had legitimate autonomy here. Obviously Belichick signed-off on players/picks, but Caserio implemented a scouting/evaluation/personnel prioritization system and Belichick let him drive the ship in that regard. Winovich and Uche were Caserio picks. Niche, athletic guys with seeming value in the modern game, but they had their red flags. The first draft in Caserio's absence saw different types of picks, IMO, particularly defensively. Barmore is a 3-down player. Perkins is a 3-down player. Also, as I mentioned above, I'm encouraged by their drafting of McGrone, because he's a legitimate, modern ILB should he get healthy and pick-up the system. I thought he was Michigan's best defensive player at times - quietly optimistic about him (and what him being drafted means about our philosophy drafting ILBs going forward).

In that vein, I also think they need another EDGE opposite Judon, because it's not Uche or Wino. Perkins is a good start, we'll see if he gets any traction in the next season or two. Van Noy isn't a bad prototype for what that player should look like, but he's clearly too old at this point.

The secondary is solid. Mills has his limitations but I like him more than most, especially his instincts and physicality. I've cooled on Dugger a bit (was hoping to see a bigger jump) but he's solid, no major complaints; maybe he'll make more a jump later this season or in his third year. J.C. continues to perform. They need to flesh-out the DBs this offseason but I think they're in a decent place.
 
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