OT: Official 2021 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Tony2046]

Bruce Arians: Joe Tryon carving out a nice role for himself - ProFootballTalk

Good Lord. I wonder if there's a scramble yards metric that can be used to rate how much a defense forces a QB to run for his life.

 

[Deus Irae]

Good Lord. I wonder if there's a scramble yards metric that can be used to rate how much a defense forces a QB to run for his life.

I think someone had that number for Mahomes in the SB, but I don't remember where it was from.

 

[Tony2046]

I think someone had that number for Mahomes in the SB, but I don't remember where it was from.

I remember that. It was something like 400 yards which is impressive but for TB to add in another elite pass rusher? I'm curious to see how that turns out.

 

[Deus Irae]

I remember that. It was something like 400 yards which is impressive but for TB to add in another elite pass rusher? I'm curious to see how that turns out.

If he's what they seem to be indicating so far, and you've got Vea dominating the middle, teams are going to need to stop 3 legit pass rushers on 3rd and long, while doubling the man on the nose. K.C. may want to sign another big money OL.

 

[Tony2046]

If he's what they seem to be indicating so far, and you've got Vea dominating the middle, teams are going to need to stop 3 legit pass rushers on 3rd and long, while doubling the man on the nose. K.C. may want to sign another big money OL.

Mahomes better drink some muscle milk before playing TB because he's going to be running all night.

 

[Deus Irae]

Mahomes better drink some muscle milk before playing TB because he's going to be running all night.

I love that he put an even bigger target on himself with his 20-0 talk.

 

[VectorPrime]

Mahomes better drink some muscle milk before playing TB because he's going to be running all night.

Why? He isn’t getting out of the AFC. And at this point he should cut his losses and not risk losing a 3rd ring because of Brady.

 

[Zarozzor]

I think someone had that number for Mahomes in the SB, but I don't remember where it was from.

497. Which helps the narrative that he was out there fighting all alone.

When in reality he could have stayed in the pocket like Brady in 2007 or 2015 to get the ball out quicker and help his line out.

 

[carmelo15]

Bruce Arians: Joe Tryon carving out a nice role for himself - ProFootballTalk

Wirfs is the truth this is good news

 

[amfootball]

497. Which helps the narrative that he was out there fighting all alone.

When in reality he could have stayed in the pocket like Brady in 2007 or 2015 to get the ball out quicker and help his line out.

Or just hand the ball off.

 

[VectorPrime]

So is Tampa Bay sports radio any good for Bucs talk? Because god knows that radio market probably isn’t the most desirable job in the industry before the last few years so maybe it’s awful.

 

[Guts]

497. Which helps the narrative that he was out there fighting all alone.

When in reality he could have stayed in the pocket like Brady in 2007 or 2015 to get the ball out quicker and help his line out.

Or audible to a running play. Bucs were playing light in the box all game

 

[amfootball]

Or audible to a running play. Bucs were playing light in the box all game

That's exactly what Brady did vs the saints as they played a very similar defense. He also threw to the RBs.

 

[sb1]

Everything changed from that one decision. It was so monumental and cost Brady his best SB performance of all time and a chance for us to legit three-peat. And somehow Bill has gotten away with never having to answer for that benching.

Still think that was the beginning of the end for Brady here. Gronk too. There’s a reason why there were rumblings about his retirement after the game.

No such thing as a lock in sports and it was not a lock they would have beaten the Eagles with Butler out there but as it was it was certainly a long way off from the best possible team out there…and deliberately so. The results speak for themselves. We also witnessed Brady with I believe the greatest championship performance in NFL history and maybe right up there in sports history and it will never get the recognition it should thanks to that decision.

Grady Little was fired for less.

 

[Le Numéro Douze]

Still think that was the beginning of the end for Brady here. Gronk too. There’s a reason why there were rumblings about his retirement after the game.

No such thing as a lock in sports and it was not a lock they would have beaten the Eagles with Butler out there but as it was it was certainly a long way off from the best possible team out there…and deliberately so. The results speak for themselves. We also witnessed Brady with I believe the greatest championship performance in NFL history and maybe right up there in sports history and it will never get the recognition it should thanks to that decision.

Grady Little was fired for less.

Grady Little did not win 5 championships with the Red Sox prior to leaving Pedro out.

 

[sb1]

Grady Little did not win 5 championships with the Red Sox prior to leaving Pedro out.

Little’s judgement of the situation turned out to be wrong. Bill made his decision without a doubt knowing already ahead of time that it was a bad one for a team looking to win a championship.

My point was for anyone not named Belichick it was fireable. You don’t throw away a championship no matter what point you’re trying to make.

 

[carmelo15]

Little’s judgement of the situation turned out to be wrong. Bill made his decision without a doubt knowing already ahead of time that it was a bad one for a team looking to win a championship.

My point was for anyone not named Belichick it was fireable. You don’t throw away a championship no matter what point you’re trying to make.

Ya he could’ve just traded Butler next season oh wait he was gonna be a FA anyways

 

[VectorPrime]

Also Pedro said he was good and so the manager decided to trust his Ace. An monumental f.uckup but in the opposite way of Belichick.

 

[Pats1971]

497. Which helps the narrative that he was out there fighting all alone.

When in reality he could have stayed in the pocket like Brady in 2007 or 2015 to get the ball out quicker and help his line out.

I am not sure why people think that puts mahomes in a good light. That sounds like really bad game management. He will have to learn to get rid of the ball, call some hit routes, throw to running backs, hand the ball off, this notion of a 10 yard drop back every play and wait for fast receivers to get open, does not always work, you have to adapt to the game you are in, and he could not. You hit it on the head. I am never seen so many people praise a guy with a crap performance like he had in that game.

 

[Deus Irae]

497. Which helps the narrative that he was out there fighting all alone.

When in reality he could have stayed in the pocket like Brady in 2007 or 2015 to get the ball out quicker and help his line out.

Neither of his tackles could hold up long enough for him to do a basic drop and pass to an open receiver.

I am not sure why people think that puts mahomes in a good light. That sounds like really bad game management. He will have to learn to get rid of the ball, call some hit routes, throw to running backs, hand the ball off, this notion of a 10 yard drop back every play and wait for fast receivers to get open, does not always work, you have to adapt to the game you are in, and he could not. You hit it on the head. I am never seen so many people praise a guy with a crap performance like he had in that game.

His ability to dodge that rush was very impressive. Brady would have been shut down too, had the QBs been flipped, because it would have been late 2019 all over again (OL absolute garbage, receivers unable to get open quickly enough).