There is a connection with Belichick certainly. My point was that Wozzi's dismissal of Brady's connection by siting some outliars. Brady and Belichick demanded players rise to their level of preparation......more than any other coach-quarterback combintion for such a sustained amount of time. Now Brady's gone and the same thing happened in Tampa. The NFL world did the math. Winning follows Brady. Yes he needs a team but a team needs and believes in him
Dismissing either is silly, in my opinion. And you seem to be dismissing BB here.
Brady went into a great position in Tampa - he picked carefully, and wisely. That team was, and is, loaded, in the prime of their run. They got lucky last year in that their injured players came back ready to romp at the end of the year, with the exception of one TE in a redundant position for them. Do they win out without Vea? They also got fortunate in the playoffs, particularly in catching a depleted KC team in the SB. THat's usually the way it works - factors beyong just talent and coaching happen. Brady could have had a perfect season if his OL wasn't beat to crap before the SB. He might have had one the next season (was there really anyone who could compete with the Pats at that time?) if he hadn't been injured in week 1.
Tampa Bay also added Gronk, AB, Fournette, Haig last year, and re-signed all their top players, losing no one of note, and have a roster loaded with high-1st/early 2nd-round draft picks. They went all-in and are doing so again, now pushing tons of $$$ down the road. Give them credit.
Manning took an 8-8 Broncos team to 13-3, right? He also won a Superbowl with them - when he was a shell of his former self. Do you really think that Denver turnaround was solely on Manning?
I and you have watched BB patch together secondaries out of duct tape and bandages. His game plan to stifle the greatest show on turf was nothing short of remarkable. His ending of that Seattle SB was legendary. He assembles great teams and coaches them to over-perform year after year.
7-9 with that roster, that schedule, that QB play, is absolutely amazing to me.
And a big part of that - of how they were able to remake the team three tines, at least, in their historic run had to do with money management as much as anything else. Brady was a part of that - he was the perfect player, both in leadership, humility, and work ethic.
But you'll never ever convince me that any other coach/gm could have done it, even with Brady. There are other good organizations in the NFL, and other great coaches (Andy Reid, Harbaugh, and as much as we make fun of him for his blunders, Tomlin is in it every year), but BB is above all of them. Brady will tell you that.
I think Brady could have won 3, maybe, with Andy Reid (if injuries didn't cripple the teams, as so often happens). No way he wins 6 over 20 years, with three completely different set of teammates.