OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[RicoG]

Total speculation on my part, but this is how I'd expect it to play out and similar ot the numbers I used a few months ago. They'd be a little higher now post Super Bowl.

-Brown seeking $10M range
-Bucs offering $5-7M...or maybe more, but incentive-based
-Maybe there's a team willing to offer more guaranteed or somewhere in the $8M range

-Bucs will have a decision to make on whether or not to come up
-Brown will have a decision to make on whether or not to play for less

That's just based on my understanding of the market, what I'd be looking for if I'm Brown, and what I'd be willing to do if I'm the Bucs.

My guess, is that Brown would have already signed at the 7 million range. I think TB offer is more in the 5 million range. So there is a Mexican standoff going on. If a team offers Brown 8 to 10 million, he is gone. It will be interesting to see what he gets.

 

[RicoG]

He had 45 receptions, on 62 targets, in just 8 games, and he did that while coming in off the street.

That's a pretty big deal.

TB is the opposite of NE, they just have too much receiving talent that they aren't going to outbid anyone who really wants Brown. There is always a team desperate and willing to pay for talent.

 

[Deus Irae]

 

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[Deus Irae]

I think the unspoken speaks loudly here.

 

[Tony2046]

I think the unspoken speaks loudly here.

Playing until he's 50? How can I doubt him?

 

[venecol]

It's impressive to see how Licht with little cap space has managed to bring back majority of the talented FA starters w/o mortgaging the future and with little noise or fanfare. The entire FO, coaching staff, ownership, and players seem to be operating with a common purpose and goals. Everyone is chipping in. What a difference a year makes from the undisciplined side show of a team the Bucs were.

 

[Tony2046]

It's impressive to see how Licht with little cap space has managed to bring back majority of the talented FA starters w/o mortgaging the future and with little noise or fanfare. The entire FO, coaching staff, ownership, and players seem to be operating with a common purpose and goals. Everyone is chipping in. What a difference a year makes from the undisciplined side show of a team the Bucs were.

I agree but it does look like they're mortgaging a bit of their future looking at some of the contracts with voidable years but at the same time they are in a win now mode after they've just won so who can fault them for that? How long they could prolong the win now mode is beyond me.

 

[VectorPrime]

I think the unspoken speaks loudly here.

Yeah, that if they can’t keep the team good Brady is gonna go to San Fran right when it turns out their new QB is a bust and win a Super Bowl in his home town to cap off his career.

I’m only half joking.

 

[Deus Irae]

I agree but it does look like they're mortgaging a bit of their future looking at some of the contracts with voidable years but at the same time they are in a win now mode after they've just won so who can fault them for that? How long they could prolong the win now mode is beyond me.

Historically, they've been a pay-as-you-go team. So this isn't really anything to worry about. They aren't getting caught with other contracts, and the CBA is going to be jumping up soon. Even having to eat that $1,372,000 in dead cap charges because of the Shaq Barrett franchise ruling, the Bucs are only looking at $2,204,929 in dead money this year, right now. So, moving forward, the team should be fine.

 

[Deus Irae]

Yeah, that if they can’t keep the team good Brady is gonna go to San Fran right when it turns out their new QB is a bust and win a Super Bowl in his home town to cap off his career.

I’m only half joking.

Imagine being the 49ers, and realizing that you passed on Brady last year...

 

[amfootball]

Imagine being the 49ers, and realizing that you passed on Brady last year...

No kidding. They would still have all those picks they gave to Miami and the Goat and looking at a repeat.

 

[TheRainMaker]

This “mortgaging the future” GM’s spew is the reason why they don’t win a Lombardi and why most of them eventually end up getting fired. And I’m only referring to the ones that have good teams and/or an elite QB.

For example, you have a Bucs team that’s been to the playoffs TWICE since 2002 before Brady showed up. They have the GOAT QB who just won the easiest Super Bowl of his career. They should not think twice about the “future” because they they weren’t winning anything before and odds are they probably won’t win much after Brady leaves. Maximize what you have now! The Bucs are doing the right thing retaining everyone they can.

Green Bay should take notice and stop penny pinching. Rodgers will never win there and his 11 year drought continues.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Imagine being the 49ers, and realizing that you passed on Brady last year...

My friend is a die hard 9ers fan. I’ve told him many times it’s grounds to firing both Lynch and Shanahan.

Trading Buckner and signing Armstead is looking pretty bad right now. The pick used on Kinlaw is nothing special and he didn’t grade out too well.

They’ve had a slew of bad decisions recently.

 

[Joker]

Now that Brady has won in Tampa Bay is he still considered "gay" by the tens of millions of southern NFL fans? or has he undergone "gay to straight conversion" at the nearby Tampa arm of Swaggert Ministries?

 

[VectorPrime]

Imagine being the 49ers, and realizing that you passed on Brady last year...

An absolutely incredible miscalculation. In one year they went from making the choice that they stick with Jimmy over Brady even after the concerns over Jimmy’s post season performance to now more likely than not starting a rookie that they paid 3 years worth of draft capital to get and dumping Jimmy. What a mistake.

 

[TheRainMaker]

An absolutely incredible miscalculation. In one year they went from making the choice that they stick with Jimmy over Brady even after the concerns over Jimmy’s post season performance to now more likely than not starting a rookie that they paid 3 years worth of draft capital to get and dumping Jimmy. What a mistake.

They are the poster children of how not "mortgaging the future" came back to bite them hard. Shanny and Lynch better hit on this QB or they will get fired.

 

[RicoG]

They are the poster children of how not "mortgaging the future" came back to bite them hard. Shanny and Lynch better hit on this QB or they will get fired.

And hitting on a QB in the top of the 1st round is a still a crap shot. Winston and Mariota, then Goff and Wentz were taken 1st and 2nd in back to back years and they are still developing and struggling to be a QB1. Even Lamar still can't throw very well and will be QB2 when he slows down a bit in his late 20s.

Giving up all those picks for a QB that might develop into a JG level talent at best will bite them. Why not tell JG to stay in the pocket. Brady has done it for 21 years and he hasn't done too bad. Oh wait, they thought Brady was washed up and plays like a dinosaur.

Anyways SF loss will be NE gain. JG will be coming back either this season or next.