OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[Zarozzor]

It’s glorious.

Buffalo forum has like five threads on the first page about how Brady isn’t really that great, shouldn’t be the Super Bowl MVP, etc. There’s an abundance of Small **** Energy all around.

In the thread from I linked, they have now mentioned all the below as better than Brady

Patrick Mahomes
Joe Montana
Brett Favre
Dan Marino
Aaron Rodgers
Johnny Unitas
Otto Graham
Bart Starr
Peyton Manning
Steve Young
Warren Moon

 

[Zarozzor]

 

[sb1]

Bigger punishment than Tyreek got for beating a woman and child.

They actually fined him for that lmao.

 

[sb1]

I bet whoever said that has watched exactly 1 of them on that list play and just talking out of their ass on the other four.

 

[amfootball]

LOL. That's my favorite. The game was RIGGED. RIGGED I tell ya. Yet there he is on a fan board typing away about a sport that is supposedly fixed. I never understood that type of fan. Why watch a sport that you believe is fixed much less sign up for a fan board? Can someone explain that psyche to me, if possible?

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

I remembered hearing romo saying how the chiefs hold a lot . It seems like the refs where forgiving on them but not this officiating crew. If anything they should be mad at themselves for not being disciplined enough.

 

[venecol]

I remembered hearing romo saying how the chiefs hold a lot . It seems like the refs where forgiving on them but not this officiating crew. If anything they should be mad at themselves for not being disciplined enough.

That's why I was hoping the refs wouldn't "let them play" like in the GB game. Not calling penalties benefits the inferior team with less talent. When they called that first holding penalty against the Chiefs, I knew the Bucs had a chance.

 

[carmelo15]

Was reading around on some Buccaneers boards, and it seems a lot of them really want to keep Barrett the most.

David has to be resigned no matter the price than keep Barrett that will keep there defense elite.

 

[amfootball]

That's why I was hoping the refs wouldn't "let them play" like in the GB game. Not calling penalties benefits the inferior team with less talent. When they called that first holding penalty against the Chiefs, I knew the Bucs had a chance.

SBs are always caught tighter for that reason. Blatant penalties have to be called. Although the refs did let a lot of egregious holding go by the KC Oline. They had JPP and Barrett in head locks most of the night.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

I remembered hearing romo saying how the chiefs hold a lot . It seems like the refs where forgiving on them but not this officiating crew. If anything they should be mad at themselves for not being disciplined enough.

Andy Reid made a huge blunder in assuming there would be little to no calls in the SB. I knew as soon as Carl Cheffers was announced as the SB ref that there would be at least a few penalties. He was the same ref in SB 51 and without a few calls in our favor the Falcons would have won. The holding call that Chris Long drew in the 4th quarter was huge.

 

[scott99]

Breeland was horrible. He clutched and grabbed all game, looked like a hockey game from the mid 1990s. Evans destroyed him. In fact the whole Chiefs secondary couldn’t keep up with the Bucs WRs and TEs. They were abused. And the calls were legit calls. But playing Devil’s advocate, let’s take 2 TDs away from the Bucs and give them 1 field goal. They still win 20-9. Even if you take away 2 TDs and NOT give them the FG, they still win 17-9.

Bottom line, you hate calls like that in a SB, I HATED the offensive PI against Kittle in SB 54 after a HUGE play. But it was the correct call. As were the ones in SB 55.

 

[captain stone]

Actually letting Barret go and getting a decent edge rusher at half the cost makes sense as well

Justin Houston. Turned 32 in January but goes back to playing in a 3-4 defense.

I don't believe that Tampa uses a 3-4 front.

 

[TheRainMaker]

Those fans are delusional! Their O-Line alone could've been called for holding on almost every play. They had no business winning last year as Nick Bosa was clearly held before Mahomes threw his miracle bomb on 3rd and 15. I have no sympathy for them.

 

[carmelo15]

I don't believe that Tampa uses a 3-4 front.

they don’t

 

[captain stone]

I would choose Denver of Indy to live if I had to make that choice. Nothing about Indianapolis that appeals to me. It's like if little house on the prairie grew up and became a strip mall with nasty strip clubs.

If nasty strip clubs are the worst of it, then that looks pretty good to me...

 

[TheRainMaker]

Breeland was horrible. He clutched and grabbed all game, looked like a hockey game from the mid 1990s.

That's what Spagnolo teams do which he carried on from Jim Johnson to help help disguise how pedestrian that group was.

Bottom line, you hate calls like that in a SB, I HATED the offensive PI against Kittle in SB 54 after a HUGE play. But it was the correct call. As were the ones in SB 55.

You just can't give the refs a reason to throw the flag. It may have been ticky tack, but I believe their was some extending of the arm.

 

[TheRainMaker]

they don’t

It sure looks like they do. Bowles has always run a 3-4. They always introduce their D as a 3-4 and their depth chart is a 3-4.

 

[Deus Irae]

Another fan base completely destroyed by the GOAT.

Chiefs Brady received 27 PI calls in 2020 - ChiefsPlanet

Chiefs Brady received 27 PI calls in 2020 Nzoner's Game Room

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I love the willful stupidity involved with the failure to understand that Brady throwing to Evans, Miller, & Company was destined to result in a lot of DPIs. It's as if the people missing that actually pull their brains out of their heads before posting.

"Gee, that Brady guy loves to throw 1/2 rainbows on deep throws. He's going to be throwing to a guy who has gotten DPI calls in the past (Evans), and a little speed burner who's going to have his DBs in the trail position time and again (Miller). He's also going to be throwing to Gronk, who draws DPIs, and to guys like AB and Godwin, who'll be getting defended by players who have no chance of covering them one-on-one without holding/interfering.But that shouldn't lead to DPI calls!"

 

[Deus Irae]

That's why I was hoping the refs wouldn't "let them play" like in the GB game. Not calling penalties benefits the inferior team with less talent. When they called that first holding penalty against the Chiefs, I knew the Bucs had a chance.

"Let them play" is just sportspeak for "don't call penalties". It's fine in theory, but it pretty much always gets abused in practice.

Anyone who's been a hockey fan since before the rules mostly destroyed fighting can tell you (general, not specific) what happens when official swallow the whistles completely.

I mean, people were actually *****ing about the DPI call in the Packers game, when the DB was stretching out the WRs shirt about 6 feet while holding on to it.

 

[venecol]

Interesting free agent ratings and predictions from folks at PFF. They show Bucs signing most of their top free agents:

#2 Godwin - Bucs franchise tag.
#8 L David - Bucs sign 3 yrs @ $40M
#11 W Fuller - Packers sign 5 yrs @ $87.5M
#13 J Thuney - Cardinals sign 4 yrs @ $57M
#14 S Barrett - Bucs sign 4 yrs @ $68M
#17 Fitzpatrick - Pats sign 1 yr @ $10M
#18 R. Sherman - Bills sign 2 yrs @ $28M
#29 J. Winston - Colts sign 1 yr @ $5M
#30 AB - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $2M
#57 Gronk - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $10M
#69 D. Andrews - Pats sign 3 yrs @ $18M
#83 M. Davis - Bucs sign 2 yrs @ $8.5M
#86 J. White - Pats sign 2 yrs @ $10M
#99 Suh - Bucs sign 1 yr @ $6.75M

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