Cam says he would be happy to return to the Pats

[scott99]

His year as a Patriot proved to me 3 things. He’s a good person, a good teammate, and a horrible QB. I pray the Pats don’t bring him back. He’s not the answer in any way, shape or form.

 

[Steve102]

Why the hell wouldn't he? He's gotta create some kind of market for himself.

 

[captain stone]

As of today we don’t have a better option. There is no free agent QB that is clearly better that we have a shot for, and tbh everyone here is too gun shy based on the Goff/Stafford trade reaction to get one and unless we use the 15th which many here seem against.... we are not in a great draft position. Hell the 15th pick might not even net a top 5 QB this year.

Sure there are: Brissett & Fitzy, off the top of my head...

 

[NE_Zealot]

He would have to live in a hyperbaric chamber but that doesn’t fix mental errors.

 

[SammyBlueCat]

Just like the stray cat at my office - got food? I'm back!

At least the cat keeps the vermin away and is cute.

My people know their role

 

[SammyBlueCat]

The entire season last year (2020) felt like an unending pre-season with Cam at QB. From what I can gather he is a decent guy and and good team mate however I hope someone with a higher ceiling can be found.

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

Hed be a good backup if the jimmy g trade goes down. He could win 3 outta 5 games that jimmy misses each year (assuming a better supporting cast and easier schedule)

 

[Jim Beankie]

At least he led the league in Price per win pre bonuses (otherwise he'd be third to Allen and Lock). If Bill decides to bring him back, I'll root the heck out of him, warts and all. Otherwise, thanks for playing well in the last game to hopefully get us a better compensatory pick.

 

[lancerman]

Sure there are: Brissett & Fitzy, off the top of my head...

Brissett?

Last year Brissett was on a DRAMATICALLY more talented offense and his stats were 272/447, 60.8%, 2942 yards, 18TD, 6INT, 88 rating. What do you think he would do on this non playoff offense? Brissett's own team is in win now mode and signed the first QB they possibly could last year because they were disgusted they wasted a year with him. Brissett sucking is almost entirely the culprit of one of the few shutouts this team has experienced in recent years. He would be as bad or worse than Cam because of how much of a downgrade this offense is. He was bad despite having a loaded team that was build by one of the best GM's in the NFL.

Fitzpatrick is a better passer but he's way too inconsistant and has never led a team to the playoffs. For any game that he might win you in lieu of Cam, he'll lose you 2 or 3 more that you had no business falling in.

If those are your guys, you aren't serious about winning. Those are placeholders. Placeholders who will be more expensive than Cam. At that point you are just saying "we aren't winning, let's build for 2022". Why even waste money on them when you can just have Cam for dirt cheap?

 

[captain stone]

If those are your guys, you aren't serious about winning. Those are placeholders. Placeholders who will be more expensive than Cam. At that point you are just saying "we aren't winning, let's build for 2022". Why even waste money on them when you can just have Cam for dirt cheap?

Because both Brissett & Fitzy would go into Any game as our starter with a Better chance of winning that day's game than Can't would have.

Re-signing Scam wouldn't just say, it would SCREAM "We aren't winning; let's build for 2022."

 

[lancerman]

Because both Brissett & Fitzy would go into Any game as our starter with a Better chance of winning that day's game than Can't would have.

Re-signing Scam wouldn't just say, it would SCREAM "We aren't winning; let's build for 2022."

No they wouldn't. Take what Brissett did two seasons ago and then apply our terrible by comparison offense. His ceiling is what Cam did at best.

This is why this isn't worth talking about. Everyone had a meltdown over enduring a losing season and wants to think it was strictly the QB who held the team down and create a false narrative that "anybody else" is better. It's conveniant, but it's just not the case. Brissett is a worse runner than Cam and he can throw slightly better but not enough to change the passing game and he's more expensive.

Signing any of the three is screaming "we aren't winning, onto 2022". In that case, go with the cheaper option who has played with the current crop.

 

[BradytoMosstoGronk]

Call me a downer on this guy, as i've never been a particular fan of him through his career, but i dont see much upside for a soon to be 32 year old with something like 4 legitimate injuries in his career. His physicality and skillset doesn't appear to carry over into the wrong side of 30. I dont think the issue with his shoulder is going to improve, nor his accuracy -- i know his accuracy was one of the better ones in his career, but I have zero confidence in his ability to lead a passing game against a better defense. I really dont see a ceiling of beyond 7, MAYBE 8 wins if we're riding him a full season again.

 

[sb1]

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[UGAPatsfan]

If we are quitting on 2021 (which I think signing Cam would be) I'd rather just start Stidham all year. And that isn't saying much.

Look, Cam was a good leader and well liked. He was also a tough SOB.

But lack of time in the system has nothing to do with balls thrown into the turf 10 yards past the LOS or with him unable to hit open guys.

For whatever reason he was not right physically. Now if he agreed to be a Taysom Hill type of utility gadget guy and we had a different starter...I'm all for it.

 

[Ross12]

I keep thinking about this and going back to his first few games last year. He looked pretty good. They handled Miami and Vegas (both of which flirted with a wild card spot) without issue. They lost to Seattle but Cam delivered a game in which Edelman achieved his highest receiving yards in his career, and they came 1 yard short of a win. Yeah, Seattle's D is bad but still, his throwing looked good.

Then he gets COVID and comes back all messed up. It felt like team chemistry was out of sorts, Edelman is lost for the year, and Cam is just not performing well. Teams adjusted. That said... they delivered wins over Baltimore and Arizona, and smoked the Chargers. Their first loss to Buffalo was by 3 points. So it's not like it was a total disaster...

I'm not gonna claim that Cam can't be improved upon, but I am also left wondering if maybe... just maybe... with a proper offseason, some major improvements to his receiving targets, some competition along the lines of a Mariota type... he might still be salvageable...? Wishful thinking, maybe, but in the event that no better options are easily acquirable, or as part of an open competition, I wouldn't TOTALLY hate it...

 

[RIpats88]

The question I guess that needs to be answered is, was cam newton a performance due to the lack of talent around him or is he finished.

I mean Tom Brady looked done in 2019 and then won a super bowl the next year with tampa. Our weapons were even worse this year so it bears worth noting.

But cam newton was also throwing passes into the ground at receivers feet. So to me that is worrying. Seems like the guy lost arm strength

 

[Deus Irae]

I mean Tom Brady looked done in 2019

 

[denverpatsfan]

So I haven't heard about his shoulder surgery that is going to repair the injury sustained this past season? You know the injury that prevented him from throwing a pass like an average QB? When is he having that surgery? Once he is recovered and the shoulder is rehabbed I would consider bringing him back in the mix.

 

[lancerman]

The question I guess that needs to be answered is, was cam newton a performance due to the lack of talent around him or is he finished.

I mean Tom Brady looked done in 2019 and then won a super bowl the next year with tampa. Our weapons were even worse this year so it bears worth noting.

But cam newton was also throwing passes into the ground at receivers feet. So to me that is worrying. Seems like the guy lost arm strength

Cam isn't as good as Tom so part of it is him and part of it is the receivers. People can't pretend they aren't making QB's look worse.

 

[micronin127]

The only role I see for Cam Newton would be a specific short yardage or goal line package. Run out two tackle eligibles, a fullback, Damien Harris, and a TE. It would be like how the Saints the last few years had a package of plays situationally for Taysom Hill. Brees played 95% of the snaps, but 4th and 1 just over midfield... 1st and goal... Cam himself is likely to score 10 rushing TDs in a package like that.

I don't see why Cam couldn't be on the roster and possibly even game day active as a backup with a package of plays for key situations.