Jimmy G interesting stuff

[Ring 6]

What are our realistic options at this point? We are going to get a retread bridge QB. That much is certain. Have to hope we hit on the draft pick so we have the QB of the future.

Nothing is certain. There is the draft, trades and free agency and this is the top priority.
All of those avenues resulting in Fitzpatrick or newton is an abject failure. I can’t understand how anyone would think that belichick would walked into the off season loaded to the gills with resources and just say f it to the qb position. There are 15-20 backups that are better than newton.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Nothing is certain. There is the draft, trades and free agency and this is the top priority.
All of those avenues resulting in Fitzpatrick or newton is an abject failure. I can’t understand how anyone would think that belichick would walked into the off season loaded to the gills with resources and just say f it to the qb position. There are 15-20 backups that are better than newton.

More and more, I think the retread has to be a short-term solution while they draft someone. And if that’s the case, don’t bother a trade, but get a free agent. Fitzgerald, Trubisky, or someone who hasn’t been cut yet.

 

[amfootball]

Nothing is certain. There is the draft, trades and free agency and this is the top priority.
All of those avenues resulting in Fitzpatrick or newton is an abject failure. I can’t understand how anyone would think that belichick would walked into the off season loaded to the gills with resources and just say f it to the qb position. There are 15-20 backups that are better than newton.

Unfortunately I think that is the likely outcome. You can't just throw money around and get a franchise QB or else every team would do just that. Bill is going to plug as many as holes as possible and not spend mega bucks on a QB unless he really likes Prescott. Otherwise, it is retreads and then the draft. Nothing will be solved on one year.

If he brings Newton back as the starter, he should be fired.

 

[everlong]

Tom Brady's first 30 starts were consecutive. Jimmy G's streak stopped at 2 out of the gate. His highwater mark is 24.

 

[mike_usagisan]

Unfortunately I think that is the likely outcome. You can't just throw money around and get a franchise QB or else every team would do just that. Bill is going to plug as many as holes as possible and not spend mega bucks on a QB unless he really likes Prescott. Otherwise, it is retreads and then the draft. Nothing will be solved on one year.

If he brings Newton back as the starter, he should be fired.

Right. The Titans sort of lucked into Tannehill, and even there, I’m not sure anyone considers him as a potential Super Bowl winner. I think it has to be the draft. And if so, I don’t care who the bridge person is as long as they get the rookie as ready as they can as fast as they can.

 

[venecol]

No. Who is jaboo?

Jameis Winston - a.k.a. Jaboo.

Think of the endless possibilities with Cam and Jaboo alternating at QB or even both on the field at the same time. McDaniels will come up with creative schemes to utilize the best qualities of each.

Get used to it, Cam is being re-signed.

 

[Ring 6]

More and more, I think the retread has to be a short-term solution while they draft someone. And if that’s the case, don’t bother a trade, but get a free agent. Fitzgerald, Trubisky, or someone who hasn’t been cut yet.

I do not agree. I think you get a possible long term solution and a draft pick. Retread slug you can’t win with is pointless.

Unfortunately I think that is the likely outcome. You can't just throw money around and get a franchise QB or else every team would do just that. Bill is going to plug as many as holes as possible and not spend mega bucks on a QB unless he really likes Prescott. Otherwise, it is retreads and then the draft. Nothing will be solved on one year.

If he brings Newton back as the starter, he should be fired.

why can’t it be solved in one year? They have the resources.
What is the point of filling other holes and ignoring QB?

 

[Ring 6]

Jameis Winston - a.k.a. Jaboo.

Think of the endless possibilities with Cam and Jaboo alternating at QB or even both on the field at the same time. McDaniels will come up with creative schemes to utilize the best qualities of each.

Get used to it, Cam is being re-signed.

No

 

[Triumph]

The point is completely irrelevant because the only thing that matters is what the QB does in the Patriots system.

I was at opening night 2016 and if you never noticed the number, you would think Brady was out there.

Besides Matt Ryan is MVP in Shanahan's system.

Maybe it's time to Brady in RPO system or the wing T.

All NE needs now is a HOF TE and decent WRs.

Jimmy lasted 2 games in NEs system and needs to be protected like a chicken egg.

 

[ralmat55]

Aside from TB12, just about every QB has durability issues, so I don’t think it makes much sense to dwell on that. Like most teams throughout the history of the NFL, you just have to keep your fingers crossed and try to have a competent backup.

 

[mike_usagisan]

why can’t it be solved in one year? They have the resources.
What is the point of filling other holes and ignoring QB?

I guess the question is who is this franchise quarterback you think the pats can get with the resources they have? I think Wentz might be the closest one out there, if he can be fixed. But how much will it cost to get him? And if you’re not willing to draft a QB in the first round, the likelihood of hitting on someone is really really slim.

 

[RIpats88]

I do not agree. I think you get a possible long term solution and a draft pick. Retread slug you can’t win with is pointless.

why can’t it be solved in one year? They have the resources.
What is the point of filling other holes and ignoring QB?

I've never seen a team ignore certain areas because they need to fill another need

 

[bigballas]

In fairness, we've never needed to for 20 years and the highest QB we drafted during that time was the best of the bunch (Jimmy). I do think it was a huge lack of foresight on Bill's part for the non-existent succession plan, but that's a different debate.

The point is we have our highest draft pick in years, with a decent QB draft class and the means to trade up if we wanted. I don't see Bill doing this of course but the option is there if he wants.

Matt Cassel > Jimmy G

 

[RobertWeathers]

Matt Cassel > Jimmy G

In what way?

 

[Ring 6]

I've never seen a team ignore certain areas because they need to fill another need

Have you ever seen a team ignore Qb when they had 60 million in cap space and a pick in the first half of round 1.

Just to be sure, are you suggesting it would be a good idea to take the one season where we have more cap room than we have ever had, and among the best draft slots we have had in 20 years, and no QB after finishing 7-9 with a horrible one, and we should ignore the qb position so we can spend money on other positions and try to win without a capable qb?

 

[RIpats88]

Have you ever seen a team ignore Qb when they had 60 million in cap space and a pick in the first half of round 1.

Just to be sure, are you suggesting it would be a good idea to take the one season where we have more cap room than we have ever had, and among the best draft slots we have had in 20 years, and no QB after finishing 7-9 with a horrible one, and we should ignore the qb position so we can spend money on other positions and try to win without a capable qb?

Oh no, I am with you suggesting they should address the QB position. It's the #1 priority. The idea that we should ignore it because we don't have receivers as if we can't address both is nonsense.

What If next year is a bad QB draft or no one springs free?

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

Matt Cassel > Jimmy G

I was not a Cassel detractor like many here but Jimmy G >> Matt as a QB.
If your point is durability, I agree.

 

[aluminum seats]

SF had a top 5 running game the year they went to the Super Bowl. 2019 San Francisco 49ers Statistics & Players | Pro-Football-Reference.com

People forget that.

Jimmy threw for 400 yards and 4 TDs in 3 post season games. Jimmy threw for 69 yards vs Green Bay in the NFCC. The SF WR and TE numbers were not all that. Yes, G Kittle who is likely a HOFer lead the 49ers with 1000 yards. D Samuel had 800 yards. The rest of the passing game was mediocre. E Sanders mustered 500 yards through 9 games. Jimmy could not keep up when facing a potent passing offense.

This notion that Shanahan is holding Jimmy back is revisionist history.

I'd say who cares to most of this. Right, in the NFC championship game JG went 6 for 8, which is bizarrely low in today's game...and sf scored like 40 points and won by 20.

It's not revisionist history to say that Shanahan played too conservatively at the end of the half in the Super Bowl, it's the truth.

Look, the guy's gotten hurt a fair bit, no way around that. And he didn't win the Super Bowl. But compared to what the Pats had last year, Garoppolo would seem like a freaking miracle worker back there. I'd love to have him back.

 

[Bourne Again Christian]

I didn’t realize Trubisky can be gotten without giving up picks.
We should absolutely sign him and draft a guy.
He is mobile he has a good arm he has a chip on his shoulder and he has shown he can play in this league.

 

[venecol]

No

You'll understand once you see Cam roll out to the right and then flick the ball back to Jaboo, who in turn throws a 50+ yard pass to Meyers for a TD. It'll be a beautiful thing. With Jaboo + Cam we can win say, 10 games to get into the playoffs. Maybe.