Bench Newton!

[Nehalem]

In hindsight letting jimmy go for 2 years of brady was a poor decision. Or more the fact of letting Jimmy go and then not committing to Tom Brady all while not having a succession plan.

When we traded Jimmy I though "oh we are going all in on Tom until he's 45" instead he plays 2 more years and leaves. The whole Tom brady/Jimmy G situation has played out poorly

In what world is going to 2 Super Bowls and winning 1 a bad decision?

 

[scott99]

I didn’t read this whole thread. But I feel Cam is obviously not the answer now, or for 2021. It HAS to be addressed in both the draft AND free agency. Cam is just a bad QB. Those who disagree, I’m sorry you feel that way, but your just wrong. He needs to go. I’d be VERY upset if Belichick wasted any capspace to resign him. Let him go elsewhere to get 10-12 mill a year.

 

[Thelonious]

Bill clearly disagrees w

I can only argue with someone who lacks introspection for so long. Let’s be real, you’ve been here before. It’s a pattern.

I made my point. I got new data and things changed after Cam got Covid and came back struggling. I don’t need to die on the hill of an opinion where the data changed. I’m not that stubborn and going to argue a preposterous point to feel better about myself.

Uh huh. I guess there must be some other reason why you persist in arguing the preposterous notion that Cam doesn't blow.

 

[Thelonious]

In what world is going to 2 Super Bowls and winning 1 a bad decision?

In a world where you end up with a hopeless incompetent at quarterback. Sound familiar?

 

[lancerman]

You are still defending him, jumped into a conversation I was having with another person and had nothing to offer but personal attacks.
That’s who you are. At least accept it. Every time you engage me it’s with personal attacks and then when I show you are wrong, again, you try to take the cyber moral high ground declare yourself better than me, lie that you will put me on ignore. Yet you don’t, you are just hiding from my responses which you are inept at dealing with. Ultimately not being too smart, you forget that you are pretending to have me on ignore and the whole cycle starts again. It’s probably about time to go back to your original POV about newton, make it about race, so you can try to dismiss people seeing how much he sucks as racist. Then you can tell all the poster who see through your bs that you are putting them on ignore because of your pretend moral superiority.

I said he wasn’t worse then Stidham and that Stidham hasn’t shown anything.

Im going to leave it at this: I said I was wrong about extending Cam and changed my opinion when additional data came out. I said I was wrong. You couldn’t accept that and you wrote multiple rants on it assigning motive and being pedantic. Because that is who you are and what you get off on. We had similar discussion around two years ago where you displayed the same behavior and I said it was toxic then and told you that you gained a reputation. You fought me on that and said I was full of it. So I blocked you. I never unblocked the account. Turns out I was right and much later I found out that I was having the same conversations with exact same guy under a new name because nobody else wanted to put up with you either and you became a punchline. So I was right. Then you did the same thing and had a good portion of people here block you again. I know because we all talked about it and you got mods involved because you couldn’t handle it. Because of the new format, I can see when you still respond to me even though you know I have you on ignore. So shame on me I have you the benefit of the doubt a few times. Everytime it devolved into your usual schtick that everyone knows and it’s beyond tired. I don’t know how many times people have to tell you and how desperate you have to get to get it through your thick head that whatever it is you think you are accomplishing with your behavior is completely repelling. And everytime I regret engaging with you again. You’ve been told. It’s beyond pathetic. And it would be better if you were an actual troll but I know you’ve gone around whining that people react this way to you and I have receipts. Somehow I can disagree with people in one thread like sb1 and then have good conversations with them on another topic (too the point where we are getting lumpt together here. You on the other hand keep going back to the same crap that was litigated a year ago and it’s been a quite a journey that I’m sick of. It’s amazing how you went to so much effort to keep talking to people here besides fixing the actual problem

Now go run crying to the moderators that your behavior caused the same old problems you keep running into so I can get told to stop or get banned because I am so over this.

Merry Christmas

 

[Froob]

In what world is going to 2 Super Bowls and winning 1 a bad decision?

And that’s without even getting to that the guy is likely going to be available this off season for very little. Brees and Rodgers only have one SB appearance each and people just want to throw out two and another title.

 

[Froob]

In a world where you end up with a hopeless incompetent at quarterback. Sound familiar?

You’d really give up a SB title for Jimmy Garroppollo? There’s no way he wins that AFC title game in KC.

 

[lancerman]

In a world where you end up with a hopeless incompetent at quarterback. Sound familiar?

I don’t think he’s good right now. I just don’t think we have a better option going into the last 3 games.

 

[amfootball]

You’d really give up a SB title for Jimmy Garroppollo? There’s no way he wins that AFC title game in KC.

Jimmy has been a disaster. Can't stay on the field. Turnover prone. And that is with a stacked team in SF. I am so glad Kraft forced Bill's hand and we got that 6th ring with Brady. I never want Jimmy back. We won't win anything with him.

 

[Toofy]

 

[lancerman]

He looks like Trevor Lawrence. Maybe he is the one

 

[Ring 6]

In hindsight letting jimmy go for 2 years of brady was a poor decision. Or more the fact of letting Jimmy go and then not committing to Tom Brady all while not having a succession plan.

When we traded Jimmy I though "oh we are going all in on Tom until he's 45" instead he plays 2 more years and leaves. The whole Tom brady/Jimmy G situation has played out poorly

In hindsight letting Jimmy go was the right move. We won another SB and Jimmy has been a disappointment.

 

[Jlaff]

How could they be worse?
Newton is completely incompetent.
he has thrown for a combined 272 yards in THREE GAMES
We would have about an equal chance of winning if we played without a qb.

I imagine if you forced a middle aged man who has never played football to take snaps with 300lbs linemen running at him, the middle aged man's knee-jerk reactions might produce more yards of offence than Cam.

 

[One-If-By-Sea]

In what world is going to 2 Super Bowls and winning 1 a bad decision?

In a world where all perspective has been lost by going to 9 Super Bowls and winning 6 over a 20 year period.

 

[lancerman]

In a world where all perspective has been lost by going to 9 Super Bowls and winning 6 over a 20 year period.

In hindsight we shouldn’t have won those.

 

[Ring 6]

I said he wasn’t worse then Stidham and that Stidham hasn’t shown anything.

Im going to leave it at this: I said I was wrong about extending Cam and changed my opinion when additional data came out. I said I was wrong. You couldn’t accept that and you wrote multiple rants on it assigning motive and being pedantic. Because that is who you are and what you get off on. We had similar discussion around two years ago where you displayed the same behavior and I said it was toxic then and told you that you gained a reputation. You fought me on that and said I was full of it. So I blocked you. I never unblocked the account. Turns out I was right and much later I found out that I was having the same conversations with exact same guy under a new name because nobody else wanted to put up with you either and you became a punchline. So I was right. Then you did the same thing and had a good portion of people here block you again. I know because we all talked about it and you got mods involved because you couldn’t handle it. Because of the new format, I can see when you still respond to me even though you know I have you on ignore. So shame on me I have you the benefit of the doubt a few times. Everytime it devolved into your usual schtick that everyone knows and it’s beyond tired. I don’t know how many times people have to tell you and how desperate you have to get to get it through your thick head that whatever it is you think you are accomplishing with your behavior is completely repelling. And everytime I regret engaging with you again. You’ve been told. It’s beyond pathetic. And it would be better if you were an actual troll but I know you’ve gone around whining that people react this way to you and I have receipts. Somehow I can disagree with people in one thread like sb1 and then have good conversations with them on another topic (too the point where we are getting lumpt together here. You on the other hand keep going back to the same crap that was litigated a year ago and it’s been a quite a journey that I’m sick of. It’s amazing how you went to so much effort to keep talking to people here besides fixing the actual problem

Now go run crying to the moderators that your behavior caused the same old problems you keep running into so I can get told to stop or get banned because I am so over this.

Merry Christmas

Perhaps you misunderstand. I don’t like you. I think you are a pompous person who lacks any integrity at all. I think you post in the manner you do because you are so full of yourself you think you are creating an image.
I think you know virtually nothing about football, that you know you know nothing about football and try your best to fool people into thinking you do.
Of course you think the way I communicate with you is “repelling”. I have less than zero respect for you and when I see your ignorant posts I call them out, only to be met with a pompous diatribe like the o e above. Every single time a person disagrees with you, evidently to cover your lack of knowledge and intellect, you immediately make it personal. And you lie whenever it suits you, case in point, no if you put someone on ignore you do not see their posts. You have to actively open up posts from someone you are ignoring. Of course that defeats the purpose of ignore when you do that, but accomplishes your goal of being in your safe space where you can post things like “I can’t see who you are responding to but I can tell who it is” then trash “whoever it is”. You’ve done that many times and now just exposed your lie by saying you can see and do look.
I have never in the entire time I have been on this board made any conversation personal except in response to people like you who insist on making it personal.
You have no wit. You have no basis for the drivel you post. So when you are called out you attack the messenger. It’s the lowest form of communication.
So perhaps I should apologize for not making this clear in the past. When I interact with you, I have no intention at all of communicating with you on a level that makes you comfortable. I intend to communicate with you in the way I would communicate with any pompous disingenuous liar. And that is 100% on you for the way you have conducted yourself. Perhaps you should really put me on ignore, be a man and follow through and drop down a few leagues in who you chose to challenge.

 

[Ring 6]

Jimmy has been a disaster. Can't stay on the field. Turnover prone. And that is with a stacked team in SF. I am so glad Kraft forced Bill's hand and we got that 6th ring with Brady. I never want Jimmy back. We won't win anything with him.

Kraft didn’t force anyone’s hand.
That’s been proven over and over again.
Belichick wished he could have kept Jimmy but never even pretended to think of keeping him instead of Brady.

 

[MoreBellhorn]

Been saying it since early on: Cam blows. He's done for, used up, clueless, slow, and full of it.

Stidham? I don't know. We should find out. That involves giving him a week's prep and putting him out there under a game plan devised with his particular skills in mind.

Does this make a win less likely? Maybe. Don't care.. A loss jumps you marginally up the draft hierarchy anyway, and this year in any case has been from nearly the start - at least for anybody able to look at the matter clearly - entirely about next year and upcoming years.

Get that glittery loser off the field. And tell WEEI to haul Wiggy off to the nuthouse asap.

I’m not sure how anyone could listen to that dreadful morning show with Greg Hill. I’d rather jam knives into my ears.

 

[amfootball]

I’m not sure how anyone could listen to that dreadful morning show with Greg Hill. I’d rather jam knives into my ears.

I agree. It's awful. None of them know football at all even Wiggy who is way too emotional for radio. The takes are beyond absurd.

 

[lancerman]

Perhaps you misunderstand. I don’t like you. I think you are a pompous person who lacks any integrity at all. I think you post in the manner you do because you are so full of yourself you think you are creating an image.
I think you know virtually nothing about football, that you know you know nothing about football and try your best to fool people into thinking you do.
Of course you think the way I communicate with you is “repelling”. I have less than zero respect for you and when I see your ignorant posts I call them out, only to be met with a pompous diatribe like the o e above. Every single time a person disagrees with you, evidently to cover your lack of knowledge and intellect, you immediately make it personal. And you lie whenever it suits you, case in point, no if you put someone on ignore you do not see their posts. You have to actively open up posts from someone you are ignoring. Of course that defeats the purpose of ignore when you do that, but accomplishes your goal of being in your safe space where you can post things like “I can’t see who you are responding to but I can tell who it is” then trash “whoever it is”. You’ve done that many times and now just exposed your lie by saying you can see and do look.
I have never in the entire time I have been on this board made any conversation personal except in response to people like you who insist on making it personal.
You have no wit. You have no basis for the drivel you post. So when you are called out you attack the messenger. It’s the lowest form of communication.
So perhaps I should apologize for not making this clear in the past. When I interact with you, I have no intention at all of communicating with you on a level that makes you comfortable. I intend to communicate with you in the way I would communicate with any pompous disingenuous liar. And that is 100% on you for the way you have conducted yourself. Perhaps you should really put me on ignore, be a man and follow through and drop down a few leagues in who you chose to challenge.

Andy perhaps you don’t understand.... I went out of my way to avoid talking to you for a year and the only reason we are talking is because you made a new account.

But it’s a relief that you don’t like me because it’s so mutual. Haha my bad I got confused because when I posted that I put you on ignore a few months ago the mods told me stop because you were getting upset about it. But thanks for clearing that up. It makes me feel a lot better. And now I don’t need to expect that you will report it again because you are upset and the mods won’t have to tell me to lay off because they feel bad for you.

Seriously Andy did you think at any point in YET ANOTHER delusional rant that I thought you did anything but try to ****post and validate yourself? I’ve been saying this for years. Do you know how many people are having a laugh at you right now? But thanks for confirming to me that you are delusional and pretentious enough to try to make some nonsensical point with your posting behavior that ran you off to a new account. At least you are self aware and we can stop pretending you are the victim you always like to play as.

Thank you so much. I already screen shotted this and am excited for the new material you provided