Week 11: We Are On To Houston; Texans early 2½ point favorite

[Pape]

RAC knows this team. He knows the schemes. He knows the defense. This will not be an easy win. Pats always have a tough time with running QBs. How is this slow defense going to defend him?

Little overplayed here, maybe? Romeo left after the 2004 season... That's 16 years... Our schemes have changed, and there is a whole new cast of characters lining up on D...

 

[denverpatsfan]

Little overplayed here, maybe? Romeo left after the 2004 season... That's 16 years... Our schemes have changed, and there is a whole new cast of characters lining up on D...

Same hard to learn for everyone on the planet except for Tom and Julian offense! It's an offensive REVOLUTION everywhere except here in New England! Time to scrap it and join the new NFL!!

 

[JMC00]

RAC knows this team. He knows the schemes. He knows the defense.

Crennel teams vs the Pats since he left

1-8
123 points scored
241 points allowed

For as much as you are hyping him having intel on the Pats he hasn't applied it very well

How is this slow defense going to defend him?

How is the worst run defense in the nfl in 10 years gonna defend the league's 3rd best running offense?

 

[sb1]

Crennel teams vs the Pats since he left

1-8
123 points scored
241 points allowed

For as much as you are hyping him having intel on the Pats he hasn't applied it very well



How is the worst run defense in the nfl in 10 years gonna defend the league's 3rd best running offense?

Though Spagnuolo (Giants DC at the time) credited Crennel's Browns defense vs the Pats in 07 as the blueprint for the Giants defense in that other game.

 

[Patjew]

Tampa Bay

More or less every team has altered the logo at least a bit over the years. The original dolphin wore a helmet! He finally took it off in 2012.

 

[Patjew]

Same hard to learn for everyone on the planet except for Tom and Julian offense! It's an offensive REVOLUTION everywhere except here in New England! Time to scrap it and join the new NFL!!

Haven't they done that this year?

 

[italian pat patriot]

More or less every team has altered the logo at least a bit over the years. The original dolphin wore a helmet! He finally took it off in 2012.

My top were our old ones but also Houston Oilers one...liked also Bucco Bruce

 

[PATSYLICIOUS]

-Pats reportedly tried to trade Gilmore in the off-season

-Gilmore misses a few days in training camp

-returns and gets more upfront money for this year

-puts house on the market with a trade day deadline for offers

-goes out injured in a practice 3 days before the trade deadline

-has tweeted some cryptic stuff

Yes i'm tinfoil hatting but this kind of stuff just adds up for me where I'm just not sure it's a series of coincidences

understand your points, but if somebody wasn’t fully committed to helping the team win chances are bb would have deactivated him and open the roster spot for someone who is. He may be being extea cautious with the injury but id guess thats the extent of it.

 

[jmt57]

The line is used to even out the betting. It isn't a prediction of who is going to win. That means betting was favoring the Patriots Texans too heavily.

I agree and understand the line fluctuates due to betting trends. A good example is this very game, that as of now has a 4½ point swing (from Texans -2½ on Monday, to Patriots -2 on Thursday). Thus far 86% of the money bet on the spread, and 76% of the wagers on the moneyline has been placed on the Pats.

My point was that I did not understand why Houston was ever favored to win this game at all. It is almost as if there was human error when that opening line was published - that it should have read Patriots favored by 2½ rather than the other way around. Besides, that was early in the week, as of Monday. At that point in time very little would have been wagered yet; the corrective action normally comes later in the week, or after the announcement of an injury that causes a key player to be sidelined.

 

[BobDigital]

I think this is a classic 'water seeks its level' game.

The pats played so fantastic and such a clean game last week. I think this week will see them making more mistakes. Turnovers and penalties. It also has to do with the Texans. They aren't good but aren't bad. They are 2-7 but clearly aren't that bad. A lot of things have gone against them. Tough opponents. Close loses. Not finishing drives. They had their worst offensive game of they year last week. They should bounce back. Add in it being an away game for the pats and I like the Texans to pull out a close win. Texans 23-20. But the same score the other way wouldn't surprise me either. The only thing that would is a decisive double digit win by either team.

 

[luuked]

understand your points, but if somebody wasn’t fully committed to helping the team win chances are bb would have deactivated him and open the roster spot for someone who is. He may be being extea cautious with the injury but id guess thats the extent of it.

Moreover the team would not make him available for media availability if there was anything happening behind the scenes. Gilmore has one of the slots today around 1:30pm.

 

[patsinthesnow]

A potential comeback is forming:

The Texans are 32nd in ypc on defense. The OL is suspect & the team isn’t good.

The Cardinals are now missing Chandler Jones & Corey Peters. They gave up 5.9 ypc to the Seahawks backup RBs yesterday.

Get to 6-5. Have Edelman return providing two WRs that can beat man coverage. Get Gilmore back on defense & be able to play the elite pass defense you had last year as you can now stop the run with a capable NT.

 

[luuked]

A potential comeback is forming:

The Texans are 32nd in ypc on defense. The OL is suspect & the team isn’t good.

The Cardinals are now missing Chandler Jones & Corey Peters. They gave up 5.9 ypc to the Seahawks backup RBs yesterday.

Get to 6-5. Have Edelman return providing two WRs that can beat man coverage. Get Gilmore back on defense & be able to play the elite pass defense you had last year as you can now stop the run with a capable NT.

Like others have said: The playoffs have essentially started for us.

Is it likely we can run the table ? Not necessarily, odds are the ball will bounce a couple times against us. But there is a reasonable and viable path now. Other teams have walked it before, why not this one.

 

[sb1]

I think this is a classic 'water seeks its level' game.

The pats played so fantastic and such a clean game last week. I think this week will see them making more mistakes. Turnovers and penalties. It also has to do with the Texans. They aren't good but aren't bad. They are 2-7 but clearly aren't that bad. A lot of things have gone against them. Tough opponents. Close loses. Not finishing drives. They had their worst offensive game of they year last week. They should bounce back. Add in it being an away game for the pats and I like the Texans to pull out a close win. Texans 23-20. But the same score the other way wouldn't surprise me either. The only thing that would is a decisive double digit win by either team.

The Texans started the season playing KC/Bal/Pitt. Doesn't get much tougher than that. Also played the Titans and Packers. I think they're better than a typical 2-7 team.

I predicted 23-20 Pats. The main advantage we have is their weakness (run defense) matches up directly with our strength (running). Plus they're eliminated and we're on the verge of the same with a loss. On the flip side we didn't do a great job defending Watson last year and he's going to be a challenge. No weather issues this time either to slow them down.

Hopefully we take this one.

 

[p8ryts]

If we can get some pressure on DW i have no fear of loosing this game

I fear losing every game. Good wins are by at least one point. Watch out for the Fangio defense this week. Can we beat it this time?

 

[p8ryts]

A potential comeback is forming:

The Texans are 32nd in ypc on defense. The OL is suspect & the team isn’t good.

The Cardinals are now missing Chandler Jones & Corey Peters. They gave up 5.9 ypc to the Seahawks backup RBs yesterday.

Get to 6-5. Have Edelman return providing two WRs that can beat man coverage. Get Gilmore back on defense & be able to play the elite pass defense you had last year as you can now stop the run with a capable NT.

Anything is possible. Keep believing until its not.

 

[patsfanfromoversea]

I fear losing every game. Good wins are by at least one point. Watch out for the Fangio defense this week. Can we beat it this time?

That's True. Don't care about the point Difference, a win is the only thing that matters..I think so yes, the loss of dj reader is huge for their run defense and their cb don't scare me. If Watt gets controlled our offense will be fine i imagine

 

[sb1]

@HOU, ARI, @LAC, @LAR, @Mia, BUF, NYJ

3 straight road games and 4 out of our next 5. These teams aren't powerhouses and having no fans is helpful but the way the schedule is laid out won't be easy, especially going to Miami right after the west coast trip.

The way the tiebreakers are looking I think every game against an AFC opponent the rest of the way is an elimination game. That was true starting with the Jets game. So far so good... 2 wins in a row. They can probably sustain one loss to ARI or LAR but not both. If it has to happen I'd prefer it be LAR.

 

[Uptown]

Though Spagnuolo (Giants DC at the time) credited Crennel's Browns defense vs the Pats in 07 as the blueprint for the Giants defense in that other game.

That’s interesting because CLE had no quantifiable success at all in that game. No sacks, INTs, not much pressure & they got blown out. Brady had a clean game, NE rushed for over 100 yds; though Welker/Moss were pretty quiet. If the point was regarding eliminating those two, then yeah..makes sense.

 

[holyredeemer]

-Pats reportedly tried to trade Gilmore in the off-season

-Gilmore misses a few days in training camp

-returns and gets more upfront money for this year

-puts house on the market with a trade day deadline for offers

-goes out injured in a practice 3 days before the trade deadline

-has tweeted some cryptic stuff

Yes i'm tinfoil hatting but this kind of stuff just adds up for me where I'm just not sure it's a series of coincidences

It’s not as absurd of a theory as some people think. I agree with you. It doesn’t mean we’re right either. Hell, I hope we’re wrong.