OT: Official 2020 Tompa Bay Gronkaneers Thread

[1960Pats]

There's been people on both sides but some of that is driven by the fact that some people say it's a 50 / 50 with coaches and players. BB himself has always said players play. One person here said something very smart the other day when they said that it's very hard to measure a coaches worth in real life data. Some of us think BB is the best but that all HOF coaches are just basically Marvin Lewis without the QB. You can lose badly without good coaching but you don't win 6 mainly because of it. You win because of players.

I provided the list of lesser HCs that took teams to and/or won SBs. I could have gone on and named many more. None of those coaches did it without good to great players. Bill didn't either.

 

[Uptown]

 

[PP2]

Now that Brady is not with the Patriots anymore, Ben Vomit is fawning all over him.

 

[libra957]

Brady named NFC player of the month.

 

[203Pat]

Brady named NFC player of the month.

#washedup

 

[Tottie]

Now that Brady is not with the Patriots anymore, Ben Vomit is fawning all over him.

Hopefully he chokes on it.

 

[amfootball]

I'll be looking for any signs of fatigue. He looks as strong as ever now, and I'm hoping to see that in the latter part of November into December and beyond.

One thing in his favor is the weather. I remember Marino saying how much the Miami sun helped him stay limber late into the season. Brady does not have any cold weather games on the schedule as he already went to Chicago. That should help him a lot down the stretch.

 

[amfootball]

Now that Brady is not with the Patriots anymore, Ben Vomit is fawning all over him.

I can't stand Volin but the story line of Brady vs Bill was going to be there all season. No one expected just 7 games in that Brady would be in the MVP discussion and that Cam would be a disaster. I mean you could have predicted it as I was not in favor of the Cam signing at all but it has been worse than most thought.

 

[upstater1]

One thing in his favor is the weather. I remember Marino saying how much the Miami sun helped him stay limber late into the season. Brady does not have any cold weather games on the schedule as he already went to Chicago. That should help him a lot down the stretch.

It will also help him in the sense that he and teammates can practice their routes more.

 

[upstater1]

I can't stand Volin but the story line of Brady vs Bill was going to be there all season. No one expected just 7 games in that Brady would be in the MVP discussion and that Cam would be a disaster. I mean you could have predicted it as I was not in favor of the Cam signing at all but it has been worse than most thought.

I don't think this is surprising at all.

I also think Cam is going to play better than he has been playing.

 

[PatsBoy12]

I don't think this is surprising at all.

I also think Cam is going to play better than he has been playing.

I do too for the simple fact that it just can't get any worse. The guy is a former MVP for crying out loud!

 

[libra957]

#washedup

Apparently he's the first buccaneers player to do it in history.

 

[amfootball]

I don't think this is surprising at all.

I also think Cam is going to play better than he has been playing.

It is to me. With our coaching, I figured Cam would be at least competent/good like we saw in the Miami game. I did not think he would look anything close to what we saw vs Denver and San Fran.

 

[amfootball]

Apparently he's the first buccaneers player to do it in history.

Still setting records ... LOL

 

[BradytoMosstoGronk]

Hoyer #36.. lmao

 

[203Pat]

The most annoying narrative about all this is the "fans" who were happy to see Brady go because they thought it would "exciting". It would be exciting to see a new QB and see the team battle it out every week and not have a 7-8 easy wins each year. Well how exciting is it now? I mean I know personally I just cant contain my excitement watching us scrap out a touchdown every couple weeks. Definitely not like this boring Tampa offense. Who wants to see a QB throw for 5 TDs when we can get the thrill of 100 yards and 3 picks?

 

[amfootball]

The most annoying narrative about all this is the "fans" who were happy to see Brady go because they thought it would "exciting". It would be exciting to see a new QB and see the team battle it out every week and not have a 7-8 easy wins each year. Well how exciting is it now? I mean I know personally I just cant contain my excitement watching us scrap out a touchdown every couple weeks. Definitely not like this boring Tampa offense. Who wants to see a QB throw for 5 TDs when we can get the thrill of 100 yards and 3 picks?

I agree. I never took for granted watching the GOAT play every week. I am so happy he is still playing so I can watch him go to work with a fantastic offense. Love watching him throw to Gronk. My favorite QB/TE duo of all time. I can't wait to see what AB brings to the table next week.

I think you also realize how unwatchable NFL games are when you don't have a decent QB. I never thought the Pats would be THIS unwatchable.

 

[PatsWSB47]

I agree. I never took for granted watching the GOAT play every week. I am so happy he is still playing so I can watch him go to work with a fantastic offense. Love watching him throw to Gronk. My favorite QB/TE duo of all time. I can't wait to see what AB brings to the table next week.

I think you also realize how unwatchable NFL games are when you don't have a decent QB. I never thought the Pats would be THIS unwatchable.

....makes me opine for the good old Bledsoe days

 

[PatsBoy12]

 

[PatsBoy12]

I posted this one because he has decent soundbites about both Gronk and Tom.