Gilmore tests positive now

[40yrpatsfan]

Before we start with stupid theories, it's highly likely a player can get infected not doing anything irresponsible and literally just getting breathed on by another player within a tackle pile while on the field.

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I think that's true. Not sure there's been solid proof that 5 seconds up close to an infected person's face could pass you the virus, but it sure seems possible if not likely. Gilmore being up close to Mahomes means he could've passed it, cause he tested positive Tues or Wed which means he had it for at least several days prior and was infectious on Monday night.

What seems to be getting lost is that if you were close to someone who then tests positive within the next week, then you need to quarantine for at least 7-10 days, which is how long it won't show on a test while still being contagious. The fact you tested negative 5 days in a row tells you nothing, you could still have it and be spreading it that whole time. Nobody seems to be doing the quarantining, whether it be the White House or these teams - perfect example was Trump going to the Jersey fundraiser after learning that Hope Hicks was positive, then he tests positive a day or 2 later. The people in Jersey may now be infected, and part of that was indoors.

If Gilmore had been hanging out with Cam last week, then the moment he heard about Cam testing positive, he MUST assume he has the virus and act accordingly - which means quarantine. Getting on a plane and playing is very risky and against guidelines. But if you're not going to quarantine, then at least avoid close contact with EVERYONE to the best of your ability. Kind of impossible when playing football, but skip the hugs and handshakes and try to avoid breathing directly on people.

 

[amfootball]

Any word on if Cam tested positive today?

 

[Nunchucks]

No big deal.

We're all going to catch it and if you're reasonably healthy (even in old age) you'll be fine. No one is dying of this thing and football players that are in top physical form are in the lowest of the low risk factors.

This is just wrong and dangerous.

 

[PP2]

I think that's true. Not sure there's been solid proof that 5 seconds up close to an infected person's face could pass you the virus, but it sure seems possible if not likely. Gilmore being up close to Mahomes means he could've passed it, cause he tested positive Tues or Wed which means he had it for at least several days prior and was infectious on Monday night.

What seems to be getting lost is that if you were close to someone who then tests positive within the next week, then you need to quarantine for at least 7-10 days, which is how long it won't show on a test while still being contagious. The fact you tested negative 5 days in a row tells you nothing, you could still have it and be spreading it that whole time. Nobody seems to be doing the quarantining, whether it be the White House or these teams.

If Gilmore had been hanging out with Cam last week, then the moment he heard about Cam testing positive, he's MUST assume he has the virus and act accordingly - which means quarantine. Getting on a plane and playing is very risky and against guidelines. But if you're not going to quarantine, then at least avoid close contact with EVERYONE to the best of your ability. Kind of impossible when playing football, but skip the hugs and handshakes and try to avoid breathing directly on people.

Two things about that:

1) It's not just breathing- it's also all out panting- they're running around on the field and expelling a good amount of CO2.

2) I'm pretty sure BB has had the O and D pretty segregated, except on the practice field.

 

[DropKickFlutie]

I think that's true. Not sure there's been solid proof that 5 seconds up close to an infected person's face could pass you the virus, but it sure seems possible if not likely. Gilmore being up close to Mahomes means he could've passed it, cause he tested positive Tues or Wed which means he had it for at least several days prior and was infectious on Monday night.

What seems to be getting lost is that if you were close to someone who then tests positive within the next week, then you need to quarantine for at least 7-10 days, which is how long it won't show on a test while still being contagious. The fact you tested negative 5 days in a row tells you nothing, you could still have it and be spreading it that whole time. Nobody seems to be doing the quarantining, whether it be the White House or these teams.

If Gilmore had been hanging out with Cam last week, then the moment he heard about Cam testing positive, he's MUST assume he has the virus and act accordingly - which means quarantine. Getting on a plane and playing is very risky and against guidelines. But if you're not going to quarantine, then at least avoid close contact with EVERYONE to the best of your ability. Kind of impossible when playing football, but skip the hugs and handshakes and try to avoid breathing directly on people.

Exactly. Testing negative the first couple days means nothing while the virus incubates in the body, and then a player could test positive say day 11 while having breathed next to a bunch of people the first 10 days.

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[DropKickFlutie]

This makes zero sense scientifically. Idiocy from Goodell and the NFL

 

[IllegalContact]

I tested positive........for attitude and demeanor

@Triumph .... I love you dude .... no matter what avatar and attitude you have

 

[Ring 6]

Completely reckless and irresponsible. Cam took the positive test on Friday so he couldn't play in two days. Gilmore in all likelihood saw Cam Friday but didn't test positive. Two days after the game Gilmore tests positive. There is no way that game should have been played. There is no way they should be even thinking about playing a game inside of at least 7 days (probably 14 ideally) if a player who was in contact with others tests positive.

I think most will agree that the players aren't likely to be at risk of death if they catch it due to their age and physical fitness but these guys also have families. They have parents, potentially pregnant wives/sisters, someone they know dealing with cancer, and not to mention most NFL coaches aren't anywhere near "healthy" overall and are definitely susceptible to major risks associated with this. I know this all boils down to money but at what point is it worth it?

No way to know that Gilmore caught it from newton. Players have lives and exposure.
If you cancel games because a single player tests positive the season is over now.

 

[lancerman]

This makes zero sense scientifically. Idiocy from Goodell and the NFL

It just shows they aren’t serious and this is a dog and pony show to get outcomes they want

 

[patman12]

No big deal.

We're all going to catch it and if you're reasonably healthy (even in old age) you'll be fine. No one is dying of this thing and football players that are in top physical form are in the lowest of the low risk factors.

This is sarcasm, right?

 

[A Defiant Goose]

No big deal.

We're all going to catch it and if you're reasonably healthy (even in old age) you'll be fine. No one is dying of this thing and football players that are in top physical form are in the lowest of the low risk factors.

this is what i said, but more tactfully.

ok scratch that i didnt see the no one is dying part but for the most part if u get it and youre in good health like Gilmore is youll be fine.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

And many of their family members who would like to punch someone in the face if someone made a mocking comment like that.

just stating facts. there's a very very very high chance he'll be fine. nothing worth losing your nuts about

 

[Bill Lee]

No big deal.

We're all going to catch it and if you're reasonably healthy (even in old age) you'll be fine. No one is dying of this thing and football players that are in top physical form are in the lowest of the low risk factors.

Nonsense, 215M in the US already have.

NFL has revenues of $15B a year. If nothing else, it's just bad business to put that at risk the way the NFL currently is. They don't have the time for their star players to work the virus through their systems one by one. They know their test of choice has a huge blind spot, one eight days long. It's time for a major re-calibration and course correction.

 

[oldrover]

No big deal.

We're all going to catch it and if you're reasonably healthy (even in old age) you'll be fine. No one is dying of this thing and football players that are in top physical form are in the lowest of the low risk factors.

this is what i said, but more tactfully

LOL... you tactful Goose, you. People ARE dying of this, though... but they're 90%+ over 70 with health problems. Most in the NFL don't fall into that category... except maybe coaches.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

No big deal.

We're all going to catch it and if you're reasonably healthy (even in old age) you'll be fine. No one is dying of this thing and football players that are in top physical form are in the lowest of the low risk factors.

212,000 have died in 8 months, more than almost any war we've ever fought in. Most of those are over 65, but dozens under 20 have died, hundreds if not thousands in their 20's & 30's have died, tens of thousands in their 40's & 50's have died.

The Red Sox' best pitcher Rodriquez is 27 and in trouble cause of a cardiac condition that doesn't interfere with his playing but makes him susceptible to covid. Sometimes it's only after a younger person is real sick that they discover an underlying condition.

Don't say "no one" cause that's far from true, and before this is over there will be a 25-30 yr old athlete (or 2 or 3) that dies from covid. Not to mention the athletes' family/friend connections that could get sick and die by catching it from them, and not all those will be 65 or older either.

 

[Nunchucks]

this is what i said, but more tactfully.

ok scratch that i didnt see the no one is dying part but for the most part if u get it and youre in good health like Gilmore is youll be fine.

Or you will have long term effects like lung scarring, heart scarring, blood clots, Neurological damage...and of course get somebody else sick who could die....

 

[A Defiant Goose]

LOL... you tactful Goose, you. People ARE dying of this, though... but they're 90%+ over 70 with health problems. Most in the NFL don't fall into that category... except maybe coaches.

yea, im sorry. i was in a bad mood and probably came off insensitive when i said "oh whatever will we do with a 99.2% recovery rate" but my main point is these guys arent 70+ year old out of shape people, theyre in the group most likely to be fine. i dont really understand the whole uproar and shrieking about it, it was always expected that the NFL wouldnt get through the whole season without someone getting it. as long as they keep a level head and don't overreact like some fans are doing (CANCEL THE SEASON!!) everything will be ok

 

[A Defiant Goose]

Or you will have long term effects like lung scarring, heart scarring, blood clots, Neurological damage...and of course get somebody else sick who could die....

yes if you look at the absolute worst case scenario possible the worst possible things could possibly happen

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Another possibility would be a 3-week pause on all games, then switch to a "bubble of bubbles". Players who wanted to play would have to stay in hotels that the team bought out (no one else there other than team personnel). Players go between their practice facilities and the hotel. Players don't get to see their families for the rest of the season unless the family chooses to join them at the hotel. However, it's the Hotel California. Family can't leave until the end of the season. If they do, the player is put on a season-ending reserve list and leaves the hotel.

There should be another opt-out window ahead of forming the bubbles.

Teams go to road games in chartered planes with no one on the planes other than the pilots and team personnel. They stay in a road hotel that the home team there has bought out and is only used for visiting teams (with 5 days between uses that should be plenty of time for the hotel to be cleaned and "cooled down").

Players who agree to to join the bubbles should get a bonus for putting up with it. Games being able to happen will make the owners more money than what they'd have to pay as bonus money.

 

[A Defiant Goose]

Another possibility would be a 3-week pause on all games, then switch to a "bubble of bubbles". Players who wanted to play would have to stay in hotels that the team bought out (no one else there other than team personnel). Players go between their practice facilities and the hotel. Players don't get to see their families for the rest of the season unless the family chooses to join them at the hotel. However, it's the Hotel California. Family can't leave until the end of the season. If they do, the player is put on a season-ending reserve list and leaves the hotel.

There should be another opt-out window ahead of forming the bubbles.

Teams go to road games in chartered planes with no one on the places other than the pilots and team personnel. They stay in a road hotel that the home team there has bought out and is only used for visiting teams (with 5 days between uses that should be plenty of time for the hotel to be cleaned and "cooled down").

Players who agree to to join the bubbles should get a bonus for putting up with it. Games being able to happen will make the owners more money than what they'd have to pay as bonus money.

I actually really like the idea of extending the season by about 6 weeks and say every 6th game or so take a two week bye for all teams, restart, play another 5 games, take some time, etc. Basically play the game in blocks allowing time for anyone who catches it to isolate and recover. Probably not just shove a team into a plane to play a game that same day after a player tested positive for it just 4 days earlier