ESPN plans a nine-episode series, called Man in the Arena, on TB

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

This is the reason Tom left all this extra brand stuff Bill would of never gone for it this much and honestly I think he was already annoyed with it.

I don't think he cares much about brand, though I do think the nutrition/ training stuff with Guerero spreading to other teammates rankled Bill.

 

[1960Pats]

If it is anything close to Tom vs Time, it will be worthwhile to tune it. I really like Gotham a lot as a director. He is a great storyteller.

I do enjoy how the media/sports world view Jordan and Brady as the same. Whoever thought 20 years ago we would have the GOAT of the NFL alongside the GOAT of the NBA?

We already have the GOAT of the NBA. We have for 50 years.

 

[Sicilian]

I may be missing something obvious, but why is it called Man in the Arena? Anyone know the significance of that?

 

[Joey007]

Patriots fans living right up to their reputation. Player (doesn’t matter if he is the GOAT) leaves and gets promptly trashed.

Hard to defend most of our fanbase at times. A lot of pricks.

 

[Jangles]

I honestly don’t care what you said about him not needing to be a role model. Both myself and another poster said he comes out as a prick. You responded to both comments. Doesn’t matter how you responded, the fact is you cared enough to type something in response. Maybe you need to comprehend my previous post.

So because I responded telling you that people shouldn’t be butthurt about his attitude you think that somehow means I care that he was a prick

lol ok then

 

[Steve102]

You can dislike it but Bill despises players who act bigger than the team

Parcells rules of QB's: No celebrity quarterbacks.

 

[TB_Helmet]

I may be missing something obvious, but why is it called Man in the Arena? Anyone know the significance of that?

Sounds like they’ll frame him as a gladiator or some similar theme.

The movie Any Given Sunday did something similar.

 

[Steve102]

I may be missing something obvious, but why is it called Man in the Arena? Anyone know the significance of that?

It was on the wall at the weight room in Michigan. Quote from Theodore Roosevelt.

"It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena, whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement, and who at the worst, if he fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that his place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know victory nor defeat."

 

[sb1]

I’m hoping they will and think it would be a pretty disingenuous documentary if they didn’t, because like it or not this was a big event in his career.

I’m interested to see how this is received. Jordan was almost universally adored but a lot of people hate Brady. I wonder if it will change anyone’s perceptions.

Yes they do. I'd say it's mostly envy. Some of it is his image in general. I know someone who hates him because "he is ****y". Maybe he is a little but what other all time great isn't.

Some of it is from the false perception that he is a cheater and he SmaShEd hiS CeLlPhONE! He can't do anything about the first two but I think the show will at least try address the last one.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Tom dealing with ESPN after how they treated him during Deflategate? Must be a big check.

 

[The Brandon Five]

Michael Jordan was the greatest marketer of all-time and one heck of a basketball player, too. But his enduring legacy will be about branding, and he once again pulled it off in a fake documentary trying to make him look like a non-prick.

I just watched an interview with an ex-mobster who said that Michael's father was murdered because of Michael's gambling. He didn't know the details (why or who), but he was sure that it was a hit and it was related to MJ's addict-level gambling.

 

[1960Pats]

Parcells rules of QB's: No celebrity quarterbacks.

But celebrity HC's are fine and dandy. Same for celebrity owners.

 

[The Brandon Five]

We already have the GOAT of the NBA. We have for 50 years.

 

[sb1]

Tom dealing with ESPN after how they treated him during Deflategate? Must be a big check.

Maybe that’s part of what this is. ESPN’s mea culpa to Tom in a way giving him a national platform and the opportunity to put that nonsense to bed for good.

 

[VrabelMayeWin]

Not interested in watching my ex-wife relive our marriage right now. In a year, we'll see.

 

[Betterthanmost]

Timing timing. I feel this is too soon. If he waits a few more years, the anticipation, nostalgia will take the ratings through the roof. Comes across as a tad narcissistic to me.

 

[Hyped]

I'm excited to see this, though waiting a few years after retirement would have been a better timeframe.

THIS. I still feel that Brady and Gronk have another chapter to write.....

 

[DropKickFlutie]

It was on the wall at the weight room in Michigan. Quote from Theodore Roosevelt.

I always loved that Roosevelt quote

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[BelizePats]

BSPN did every bit as much and maybe more than the NFL in hanging Brady out to dry and forming the narrative over deflategate. It saddens me to see Tom do this with them.

 

[captain stone]

This is the reason Tom left, all this extra brand stuff Bill would've never gone for it this much and honestly I think he was already annoyed with it.

Or maybe Tom was just looking for something to pass the time while waiting for Billy to draft a WR who didn't suck...