The Tom Brady rumor thread

[RobertWeathers]

We will see tmw (or whenever the Bucs contract becomes official) if it really was a brinks truck.

But from what we have heard in the past you are right that BB wouldn't insult a player with a low ball offer if there was no way they'd match it. That being said Yee and Brady never gave him the chance so similar to how he stretched himself thin for DMac when he was almost an Eagle he might have done the same for Brady.

It is all speculation now.

I'm guessing north of $30m guaranteed.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Laughing my head off at the wannabe GMs here crying like a 33 or 38yo Brady walked, instead of a 43yo with 1, maybe 2 years left.

I would have preferred that he finished his career here, absolutely. But let’s get real. Even if you are convinced the team will suck for years without Brady all this does is accelerate the sucking a year or two. It’s not like 5 years of being a SB favorite walked out the door.

 

[Ras-IR Dowling]

Completely agree. If Pats actually offered Brady a $23m deal for 1 year, then fck them. They think Brady is not in the top 15 QBs? Really? He will sit alongside Alex Smith at $23m, Joe Flacco at $22m and Nick Foles at $21m. Really?! Meanwhile guys like Brissett get $28m, Prescott gets $30m and Cousins gets $33m. Really?!?!

Brady's been to the Superbowl 4 of the last 6 years and won 3. Wtf have guys like Brissett, Prescott and Cousins done.

Fck the Pats FO. Fck Kraft. Fck BB. They completely lost the plot on what is value and not. It's one thing to want value. It's quite another to want someone to take bottom of the market $. It's insulting. The QB market has inflated in recent years. They need to pay Brady like a top 10 QB and then he'll be good value since he's better than just top 10. That would be closer to $28-30m not $23m.

WTF were these guys thinking.

Brissett is making 28 per? I thought it was 2 year 30 mil?

 

[RobertWeathers]

Brissett is making 28 per? I thought it was 2 year 30 mil?

Biffins is emotional He needs to vent.

 

[Arialgg]

I will never adjust to this.

I’m intrigued. In the NFC- I can deal with that...some great offensive weapons...and in my state! I’ll be going to some games for sure.

 

[patsinthesnow]

Evans, Godwin & AB would rival the best WR groups ever. Arguably better than Harrison, Wayne, Stokley & Thomas, Decker, Welker

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Treating Brady “like any other player”, aka the Patriot Way, was a predictably terrible idea. Belichick being “shocked” sounds like he didn’t see it coming. If true, what a dumb, dumb way to flex your muscles. There will be a lot more players unwilling to accept a lowball offer now that they don’t have Brady promising a championship.

Report: Bill Belichick was 'a little shocked' when Tom Brady told him he's leaving New England

Apparently BB was also "shocked" our defense was unable to make ONE (1) stop in the Super Bowl after he benched Malcolm Butler

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I’m intrigued. In the NFC- I can deal with that...some great offensive weapons...and in my state! I’ll be going to some games for sure.

The Bucs are making a serious run at us for the worst uniforms in the sport

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Completely agree. If Pats actually offered Brady a $23m deal for 1 year, then fck them. They think Brady is not in the top 15 QBs? Really? He will sit alongside Alex Smith at $23m, Joe Flacco at $22m and Nick Foles at $21m. Really?! Meanwhile guys like Brissett get $28m, Prescott gets $30m and Cousins gets $33m. Really?!?!

Brady's been to the Superbowl 4 of the last 6 years and won 3. Wtf have guys like Brissett, Prescott and Cousins done.

Fck the Pats FO. Fck Kraft. Fck BB. They completely lost the plot on what is value and not. It's one thing to want value. It's quite another to want someone to take bottom of the market $. It's insulting. The QB market has inflated in recent years. They need to pay Brady like a top 10 QB and then he'll be good value since he's better than just top 10. That would be closer to $28-30m not $23m.

WTF were these guys thinking.

Robert Kraft refutes Randy Moss' claim that the Patriots "don't really pay"

 

[TomPatriot]

Laughing my head off at the wannabe GMs here crying like a 33 or 38yo Brady walked, instead of a 43yo with 1, maybe 2 years left.

I would have preferred that he finished his career here, absolutely. But let’s get real. Even if you are convinced the team will suck for years without Brady all this does is accelerate the sucking a year or two. It’s not like 5 years of being a SB favorite walked out the door.

No years of being an SB favorite actually. They were done with him and he was done with them. He has two more years in the NFL and probably won’t make it back to the SB.

 

[Chevy]

After a day of contemplation ... I am excited!

The Patriots have an incredible front office / coaching structure that, while sad to see TB12 go, has to be drooling over the challenge in front of them.

While the Colts, Packers, and 49ers had solid (even exceptional) backups waiting for The Guy to retire, most teams (Dolphins-Marino, Broncos-Elway to name two) didn't. And suffered for it.

We have Stidham, and unknown really. He may have upside, may be well regarded by the staff, but we just don't know.

Also, in a day or two they'll be able to redo the walls of the locker room, One PP, and the corporate building with all the bulletin board material from around the league. There are enough vets on this team to use that as motivation for the new guys.

It's a journey into the unknown. It may suck, may take a few years to pan out (if ever). But, it's going to be exciting.

 

[carmelo15]

That’s the spirit. **** the guy that won the franchise 6 Super Bowls and turned them into the greatest NFL dynasty of all time.

Na he’s right **** the guy who was the best at his position but never got paid like it so BB could pay for defense.

**** you tom I hope you **** the buccaneers like you did us

 

[carmelo15]

Laughing my head off at the wannabe GMs here crying like a 33 or 38yo Brady walked, instead of a 43yo with 1, maybe 2 years left.

I would have preferred that he finished his career here, absolutely. But let’s get real. Even if you are convinced the team will suck for years without Brady all this does is accelerate the sucking a year or two. It’s not like 5 years of being a SB favorite walked out the door.

Here’s the thing ok Brady isn’t an mvp player unless his elbow thing wasn’t real last year. However, we are not tanking we didn’t use that money to get weapons for Stidham why not keep Brady for 2 years than start Stidham. We’re gonna be at 5-8 wins that’s no mans land

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

After a day of contemplation ... I am excited!

The Patriots have an incredible front office / coaching structure that, while sad to see TB12 go, has to be drooling over the challenge in front of them.

While the Colts, Packers, and 49ers had solid (even exceptional) backups waiting for The Guy to retire, most teams (Dolphins-Marino, Broncos-Elway to name two) didn't. And suffered for it.

We have Stidham, and unknown really. He may have upside, may be well regarded by the staff, but we just don't know.

Also, in a day or two they'll be able to redo the walls of the locker room, One PP, and the corporate building with all the bulletin board material from around the league. There are enough vets on this team to use that as motivation for the new guys.

It's a journey into the unknown. It may suck, may take a few years to pan out (if ever). But, it's going to be exciting.

Well, in terms of time between titles without The Guy, I'd say

Babe Ruth: 86 years -- Not good.

Bobby Orr: 39 years -- Still not good.

Or, our Pats after having the title stolen in 1976: 25 years -- Painful.

The best of course, would be

Bob Cousy, Tom Heinsohn, Dave Cowens: zero years

I'd be okay with

David Ortiz (or Wayne Gretzky): 2 years -- Not bad. Not bad at all.

 

[JMC00]

Looking at the Bucs schedule that's at least a 12-13 win team with Brady and that offense

 

[Biffins]

Biffins is emotional He needs to vent.

I used this

Quarterback Contracts and Salaries | Over The Cap

Not making this crap up.

 

[Biffins]

After a day of contemplation ... I am excited!

The Patriots have an incredible front office / coaching structure that, while sad to see TB12 go, has to be drooling over the challenge in front of them.

While the Colts, Packers, and 49ers had solid (even exceptional) backups waiting for The Guy to retire, most teams (Dolphins-Marino, Broncos-Elway to name two) didn't. And suffered for it.

We have Stidham, and unknown really. He may have upside, may be well regarded by the staff, but we just don't know.

Also, in a day or two they'll be able to redo the walls of the locker room, One PP, and the corporate building with all the bulletin board material from around the league. There are enough vets on this team to use that as motivation for the new guys.

It's a journey into the unknown. It may suck, may take a few years to pan out (if ever). But, it's going to be exciting.

Except it didn't have to. We could have and should have kept Tom. I don't care if it meant paying him $5m more and replacing someone else who we couldn't afford.

This is utter frickin stupidity.

 

[RobertWeathers]

I used this

Quarterback Contracts and Salaries | Over The Cap

Not making this crap up.

So? How does QB salary correlate to winning and performance?

Some of the ****tiest QBs out there make way more than they should.

That means Bill should pay Tom what ****ty QBs make if he doesn't think he deserves it?

That makes a lot of sense.

Time will tell if Tom is worth $30m as a 43 year old QB.

 

[Biffins]

Biffins is emotional He needs to vent.

Going through the 5 stages yo. Past denial. Onto Anger now. Entering Bargaining/Depression soon.

Just listening to this song on repeat. Acceptance seems eons away.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Going through the 5 stages yo. Past denial. Onto Anger now. Entering Bargaining/Depression soon.

Just listening to this song on repeat. Acceptance seems eons away.

I know man. Tough day for everyone.