The Tom Brady rumor thread

[Bcc66duece]

Do you want a different GM/HC leading this team right now? If yes, who?

The Ravens GM

 

[RobertWeathers]

I can see you’re down. I am too, man. I’ll let this be the last word and leave you be. Tough week. I think you need to adjust your expectations a bit. Tough times are ahead before we get back to good times.

Who said I have high expectations?

My expectation is BB will field a winning team without Tom. Could be next year. Could be 2021. Who knows

 

[everlong]

Please not the Dolphins. I like B-Flo but I just cannot root for the team Shula coached. People who didn't follow the team during his tenure probably don't get it but I hate them so much more than the Jets.

The Chargers and Bucs are pretty benign landing spots. I still wouldn't rule out a surprise team like the Raiders or even Broncos.

 

[farn]

What was the end result? That’s probably what we need to set our expectations for. Acting like he’s just going to take a cap-strapped and talent poor team right back there, because he’s BB, does a disservice to how hard it is to actually win. If people don’t reset their expectations, they’re going to want to run him out of town if/when the team falls back to the pack a bit.

I’m thinking that the 2020 Brady lead Patriots would have been worse than 11-5 no playoffs.

 

[Kontradiction]

Who said I have high expectations?

Your stance did. I’m expecting an 8-8 season. 9-7 at best, 6-10 at worst. That jives with his career record as a HC without 12. You took issue with that which says that your expectations are higher. If they’re not, and you think we’re taking a step back, then your position doesn’t indicate that at all.

 

[Hammer of Thor]

Please not the Dolphins. I like B-Flo but I just cannot root for the team Shula coached. People who didn't follow the team during his tenure probably don't get it but I hate them so much more than the Jets.

The Chargers and Bucs are pretty benign landing spots. I still wouldn't rule out a surprise team like the Raiders or even Broncos.

I wouldn’t want the Colts either. That would be embarrassing for all sides.

 

[Kontradiction]

I’m thinking that the 2020 Brady lead Patriots would have been worse than 11-5 no playoffs.

That’s highly doubtful if they entered the season with anything better than the worst TE and WR position grouping in the NFL, as they did in 2019.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Your stance did. I’m expecting an 8-8 season. 9-7 at best, 6-10 at worst. That jives with his career record as a HC without 12. You took issue with that which says that your expectations are higher. If they’re not, and you think we’re taking a step back, then your position doesn’t indicate that at all.

They are no longer a SB contender.

If the QB plays well why cant they win the AFCE and make they playoffs?

 

[everlong]

I wouldn’t want the Colts either. That would be embarrassing for all sides.

The one thing about the Colts that would be hilarious is all those rednecks who hated Brady for so long and, many, who still couldn't admit he dwarfed Peyton would be proclaiming him the GOAT in short order. Flip side, screw Irsay.

 

[Kontradiction]

They are no longer a SB contender.

If the QB plays well why cant they win the AFCE and make they playoffs?

I don’t see with Stidham but we will see. I don’t think they’re winning the AFCE this year either. Buffalo is probably the top dog in that division right now. We’re cap strapped and depleted of young talent from bad drafts from 2014 to present.

 

[Patsgofor4]

The Ravens GM

DeCosta is very good. Pride of Taunton high school. Whaley in Buffalo impresses me as well.

 

[luuked]

Your stance did. I’m expecting an 8-8 season. 9-7 at best, 6-10 at worst. That jives with his career record as a HC without 12. You took issue with that which says that your expectations are higher. If they’re not, and you think we’re taking a step back, then your position doesn’t indicate that at all.

How many wins would Brady have been worth for you ? 2 (i.e 11-5 ?) ?

 

[Kontradiction]

How many wins would Brady have been worth for you ? 2 (i.e 11-5 ?) ?

In this year or ‘08? This conversation has been all over the place. If it’s this year, I’d say 2-3 easily. People complained about dirt balls but forget that many of those would have gone the other way ala Winston had he forced them. In ‘08, I’d guess they’d go 15-1/14-2 with Brady and a Super Bowl win.

 

[luuked]

In this year or ‘08? This conversation has been all over the place. If it’s this year, I’d say 2-3 easily.

Sorry, I meant this year. Yeah, 2-3 is pretty much is what I was thinking. Curious what the bookies will say about that.

 

[Kontradiction]

Me to the first Chargers fan I see if he goes to LA...

 

[Nehalem]

In this year or ‘08? This conversation has been all over the place. If it’s this year, I’d say 2-3 easily. People complained about dirt balls but forget that many of those would have gone the other way ala Winston had he forced them. In ‘08, I’d guess they’d go 15-1/14-2 with Brady and a Super Bowl win.

In 2008 with Brady they probably

Lose W3 to Miami
Lose W6 to San Diego: Brady threw 4 ints against SD@home in 2 games in 2007
Lose W11 to NYJ: Cassel had 350 yards + 50 more on the ground

Almost certainly flip the Colts game they lost 18-15. And good chance of flipping the Steelers game. Even though they lost 33-10, Cassel had 4 TOs, and Brady dominates the Steelers, especially at home.

So with Brady worst case is 12-4. And Best case is probably 14-2, assuming they manage to win one of the SD/NYJ games.

 

[festy1986]

He knew the moment he put his house up for sale.

**** him

 

[TomPatriot]

Sorry, I meant this year. Yeah, 2-3 is pretty much is what I was thinking. Curious what the bookies will say about that.

More like 1 or 2.

 

[Kontradiction]

He knew the moment he put his house up for sale.

**** him

That’s the spirit. **** the guy that won the franchise 6 Super Bowls and turned them into the greatest NFL dynasty of all time.

 

[amfootball]

In this year or ‘08? This conversation has been all over the place. If it’s this year, I’d say 2-3 easily. People complained about dirt balls but forget that many of those would have gone the other way ala Winston had he forced them. In ‘08, I’d guess they’d go 15-1/14-2 with Brady and a Super Bowl win.

In 2008 they go 19-0 with Brady.