Tanguay: Brady “embarrassed” by his compensation, is leaving

[Hyped]

It’s possible that both player and team want to see what the market says before proceeding, but that probably doesn’t bode well for his return since it’s likely that someone else will overpay.

I don’t think we see another Welker situation where he leaves for 2/12 instead of 2/10, but I’m guessing that another team will offer a multi year deal and more guaranteed money, so allowing Brady to “test” free agency may just be the amicable way of resolving this situation, and it’s quite possible that both sides have realized this for awhile.

THIS.

Yeah, someone might back up the Brinks truck....but I think the Patriots will at least come close to the highest bid. Then when Brady compares the numbers + personnel + coaching staff + location, the Patriots will be the destination that makes the most sense and offers him the best chance to reach the promised land again.

Brady's priority is WINNING, IMO. And I don't see anyone capable of offering him a 10+ win team to take deep into the playoffs....especially if the Pats make some concessions to the offensive side of the ball....

 

[mgteich]

As an aside, here: the Pats were OK with giving him the unrestricted ability to reach FA. What I'm wondering is what they feel they got (other than salary cap relief in 2019) in giving him a deal that, in retrospect, appears so one-sided.

The patriots got cap relief and got Brady to play for $23M

 

[mgteich]

I thought it was reported that the structure was at Brady's request. Which is why I find the money stuff specious. If Brady's sick of New England, or even if he's not and simply wants the flexibility to possibly go elsewhere, I doubt it really has anything to do with money or his contract showing a "lack of respect" and has to do with some combination of other stuff we can speculate on (Belichick, TB12, sick of the cold, whatever). Lack of respect might be one of those but it's more likely it springs from the Garoppolo incident or whatever than from contract stuff.

I believe the structure was at Brady's request. AFTER the patriots refused to give him anywhere near a market 3 year contract, I believe that Brady did indeed ask to be a free agent, with a voidable contract, with no tags.

 

[mgteich]

I think if he tests the market he’s as good as gone. We’d be on the hook for $13.5 mill at that point so anything we signed him to would be on top of that. That and in all likelihood some team pays him significantly more than we are willing to.

Brady can test the market in the 3 days BEFORE the season starts.

 

[Boston Boxer]

I think if he has/had a problem with his compensation, he would discuss it with BB and more importantly, Kraft. I doubt he would get pissed off and storm out of town like these reports have him doing. All these stories coming out are insane. I"m sure he will test free agency and maybe even go on a few visits...but in the end he will come back to Kraft with the offers and they will discuss.

 

[mgteich]

I think if he has/had a problem with his compensation, he would discuss it with BB and more importantly, Kraft. I doubt he would get pissed off and storm out of town like these reports have him doing. All these stories coming out are insane. I"m sure he will test free agency and maybe even go on a few visits...but in the end he will come back to Kraft with the offers and they will discuss.

Yes, I believe that Tom has discussed his compensation with Bill and the Kraft's. He accepted $23M and a one-year contract last year, and has indicated that he want a market contract. Tom's 2020 goal isn;t a team-friendly contact. I think that it's that simple.

I expect Tom and his agent to use the 3 days before free agency starts to make his preliminary decision. Sure, the patriots could offer him a similar 3 year deal that he is offered by one off the other team with lost of cap room. I just don't see this happening.
And, I suspect that the team who gets Tom will spend cap money on their OL.
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I don't see Bill waiting until after the deadline and then signing Brady, although it could happen on a 3 year deal.

 

[fnordcircle]

Tom makes a ton of money but I get it.

I'm embarrassed about how big my ween is compared to 99% of the population.

 

[Joker]

99% of the population of Crooked Steer Nevada is about 3...not saying much, Fnordsanova...

 

[Patriot Missile]

I’m embarrassed by a majority of these so called columnists/reporters that cover New England sports. When I hear Volin or Carrot top as a guest of a national show talk about the Patriots I just cringe.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

They lost that year.

No, the point is that if NE had moved on to JG in 2018 they would have at most sacrificed one appearance and one win (SB53, which was the 2018 season), not two appearances and one win which is what the person I was replying to said.

 

[The Brandon Five]

No, the point is that if NE had moved on to JG in 2018 they would have at most sacrificed one appearance and one win (SB53, which was the 2018 season), not two appearances and one win which is what the person I was replying to said.

I guess we will see on Super Bowl Sunday if JG would have been worth that price.

 

[Boston Boxer]

Yes, I believe that Tom has discussed his compensation with Bill and the Kraft's. He accepted $23M and a one-year contract last year, and has indicated that he want a market contract. Tom's 2020 goal isn;t a team-friendly contact. I think that it's that simple.

I expect Tom and his agent to use the 3 days before free agency starts to make his preliminary decision. Sure, the patriots could offer him a similar 3 year deal that he is offered by one off the other team with lost of cap room. I just don't see this happening.
And, I suspect that the team who gets Tom will spend cap money on their OL.
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I don't see Bill waiting until after the deadline and then signing Brady, although it could happen on a 3 year deal.

read something today that the Pats want an answer soon...this will get ugly IMO. we will see

 

[TheRainMaker]

The only way he returns is if he has say in personnel decisions.

 

[PatsWickedPissah]

The only way he returns is if he has say in personnel decisions.

Were that so (it isn't) color him gone. A hard NO from BB.

 

[IcyPatriot]

 

[blackglass3]

read something today that the Pats want an answer soon...this will get ugly IMO. we will see

That was another putrid Boston Media take. They compared it to Gronk last year, completely glossing over the fact that Gronk was under contract unlike Tom. Tom will be in the free agent market, and he will be signed quickly by whoever signs him. It's not like he'll be waiting until April to mull over offers.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Is Schefter actually in the know or just making a bunch of carefully worded tweets/comments that can’t lose? He seems to be constantly on the edge of saying a split is coming without saying a split is coming. That is not like him...usually he’s a guy who either has something to specific based on sources to say or doesn’t comment. He has been hinting about this since last November or so when he made a big issue about Brady’s free agency and not to be surprised if Brady leaves NE. That was really what started this whole thing, and subsequent comments seem to continue down this road.

Schefter’s scoops are still the most trusted out there. I wonder how much he knows...think he knows a lot more but will reveal only what his sources want him to reveal. And I wonder if his source is from Brady’s side or the Patriots side. He probably hits like .990 on his information.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Were that so (it isn't) color him gone. A hard NO from BB.

As it should be. A player having a say, beyond expressing preferences, in personnel matters is madness.

 

[Observer]

the problem with him testing free agency is that it adds an extra 6M onto the Pats already tight cap for 2020. If he’s not extended by the end of the league year, his full 13M dead money charge hits next years cap. That will make it virtually impossible to re-sign Brady and also restock the team with veterans. It will be tight as it is with just a 6.5M dead money charge if he’s extended

If he hits free agency, it’s almost certain he won’t return. There’s just no good financial argument for the Pats and Brady to reach a deal after free agency starts. It significantly reduces the chances of the team being competitive next year. $6m is a lot when you have an already tight cap and tons of key players to sign

I think that losing TB will be the biggest hit to team competitiveness no matter the cap hit.