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I’ve heard that Mark, Donnie, and Paul are all polished route runners.
Yeah, but can they make a cut on grass? Way different than pavement
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CLICK HERE to Register for a free account and login for a smoother ad-free experience. It's easy, and only takes a few moments.I’ve heard that Mark, Donnie, and Paul are all polished route runners.
That’s where the Dorchester kicks in.Yeah, but can they make a cut on grass? Way different than pavement
Un-feckin-believable.And yet, we have been the most dominating football team of the last 20 yrs, and perhaps of all-time.
Unfeckinbelievable wah-wah. Way to go there partner! Really got me goin’ with your keyboard warrior nonsense. How about you smoke a blunt a chill the F out?! When someone makes a list that conveniently throws out the fact that we have been dominant for over 20 years and tries to paint the picture that this one year is the norm, I’m gonna bust out those fan waving pom-poms. All this unappreciative, entitled behavior needs to go away. Bill won the damn Super Bowl LAST YEAR using the exact same roster building strategy he has used his entire tenure here. Get a grip.Un-feckin-believable.
"Wah wah wah...the last 20 years...wah wah wah...perhaps of all time...wah wah wah..."
STFU with that non-relevent pom-pom-waving bullsh!t.
That was Then; this is Now.
Read the title of the thread.
- Not signing or drafting a TE. Ben Watson made some plays but he's washed up. Lacosse is below average.
- Not signing Danny Amendola when he got cut from the Dolphins. He had more receiving yards this year with the Lions than he did in any season with the Pats, so clearly he still had a lot left in the tank. He's clutch, proven in our system, good chemistry with Brady, and doesn't cost a whole lot. Having Amendola wouldve helped lighten the load on Edelman who clearly took a beating this year and was playing hurt.
- Trading a 2nd rd pick for Mohamed Sanu. No matter how he would've acclimated to the playbook, a 2nd is way too high for Sanu. He had a decent game against the Ravens but other than that his highest receiving yards in a game was a dismal 35. His career high for yards in a season is 838 (low ceiling), and he's 30 years old. Pats got fleeced here and it smelled like desperation. The fact that we could've had Amendola for the entire season AND kept our 2nd rd pick makes this even worst.
- Not drafting another WR, picking DB JoeJuan Williams. We needed to double down at WR and the Pats skipped on some really good WR's that were on the board in order to pick Joejuan Williams who was burried on the depth chart for most of the year. AJ Brown (1000+ yards), Mecole Hardman (Pro Bowl returner, 6 TDs), DK Metcalf (900 yards, 7 TDs, 15.5 avg) were all still on the board.
- Going into the pre-season with just Julian Edelman, Phillip Dorsett (annual disappointment), Nkeal Harry, Demaryius Thomas (washed up), Josh Gordon (unreliable, annual suspension waiting to happen), Gunner Olszewski (UDFA), and Jakobi Meyers (UDFA) as our main receivers. What did the Pats expect to happen? Gordon was predictably suspended and didn't finish the season again. Thomas was traded for a bag of peanuts (essentially cut). Dorsett disappeared after week 1.
- The above point forced desperate moves such as AB signing which turned out to be nothing more than a distraction and waste of time. It also forced the desperate trade for Mohamed Sanu which was very un-Patriot-like.
- Not giving Damien Harris a shot. When it became clear that Sony Michel couldnt get anything going, it was time for a change. Instead the Pats stuck with Sony who was probably the worst starting RB in the entire league this year. His season long run was 26 yards. 26! He averaged 3.7 ypc and usually went down on first contact. The Pats spent a 3rd rd pick on Harris and he barely suited up this year.
Un-feckin-believable.
"Wah wah wah...the last 20 years...wah wah wah...perhaps of all time...wah wah wah..."
STFU with that non-relevent pom-pom-waving bullsh!t.
That was Then; this is Now.
Read the title of the thread.
Lowballing Humphries, Beasley, Jared Cook, etc. Leaving the cupboard bare at WR, and wasting TWO roster spots at the position with Meyers and Gunner. Not addressing the TE position. Not drafting Chung’s replacement, which cost us on at least two game changing plays. Straying from screens to White. There are lots more.
Unfortunately, this year’s team wasn’t very good despite a very misleading 12-4 record. They lost to 4/5 of the AFC playoff teams. They also lost to Miami at home in a must-win setting.
Develin went down and out, no replacement..
No real TE that provided red zone options...
Banged up O line..
Banged up QB, for the last three games prior to last night he looked weak.
In this copy cat league the Titans watched the tape well and figured out our D weaknesses..
Even last nights failed attempt to score from the 1 at the end of the half, exemplified this teams weakness.. lack of creative play calling and not being able to score in the red zone.
Harry sucks. 7 targets only 2 catches. He's a bust.
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To be clear, it was known Cajuste wasn't going to play this year when he was drafted. He was a likely 1st rounder before he got hurt in a cliff diving incident, so they got him for pennies on the dollar knowing he wouldn't be available until the next season. Very similar to Marcus Cannon, actually, and it worked out pretty well with him. Froholdt was mostly just a project.
As we all know the main and glaring problem this year was the ludicrously bad OFFENSE! The defense was good. Not great. Overrated by gaudy stats against bum teams. And the list of Homers excuses is just laughable. We were sick? Bad calls?! Did the dog eat their homework too? LOL.
No he wasn't...not even close.To be clear, it was known Cajuste wasn't going to play this year when he was drafted. He was a likely 1st rounder before he got hurt in a cliff diving incident, so they got him for pennies on the dollar knowing he wouldn't be available until the next season. Very similar to Marcus Cannon, actually, and it worked out pretty well with him. Froholdt was mostly just a project.
No he wasn't...not even close.
No they didn't...closer to dollars on the penny.
No it isn't...Cannon was a far more well-regarded prospect until his cancer was discovered.
And if Frodo was mostly just a project, then why the FECK was he taken in the 4th round and not the 7th where he belonged?
Is strong in this post the Fail.
No he wasn't, and No he doesn't.Based on that redraft, you wanted Risner in the first round, and Risner was more or less rated similarly to Cajuste (pre-injury) by personnel guys per McGinn last year, and came into the league as a 24 year old guard. Cajuste was like the last pick with a compensatory in the 3rd, he was drafted right where he should have been and he's still got plenty of upside. He was a basketball player who didn't play much football before college.
You summed up my complaints with a perfect post. Can’t say any more. Belichick’s offseason was the reason we couldn’t win, no explosiveness on offense.- Not signing or drafting a TE. Ben Watson made some plays but he's washed up. Lacosse is below average.
- Not signing Danny Amendola when he got cut from the Dolphins. He had more receiving yards this year with the Lions than he did in any season with the Pats, so clearly he still had a lot left in the tank. He's clutch, proven in our system, good chemistry with Brady, and doesn't cost a whole lot. Having Amendola wouldve helped lighten the load on Edelman who clearly took a beating this year and was playing hurt.
- Trading a 2nd rd pick for Mohamed Sanu. No matter how he would've acclimated to the playbook, a 2nd is way too high for Sanu. He had a decent game against the Ravens but other than that his highest receiving yards in a game was a dismal 35. His career high for yards in a season is 838 (low ceiling), and he's 30 years old. Pats got fleeced here and it smelled like desperation. The fact that we could've had Amendola for the entire season AND kept our 2nd rd pick makes this even worst.
- Not drafting another WR, picking DB JoeJuan Williams. We needed to double down at WR and the Pats skipped on some really good WR's that were on the board in order to pick Joejuan Williams who was burried on the depth chart for most of the year. AJ Brown (1000+ yards), Mecole Hardman (Pro Bowl returner, 6 TDs), DK Metcalf (900 yards, 7 TDs, 15.5 avg) were all still on the board.
- Going into the pre-season with just Julian Edelman, Phillip Dorsett (annual disappointment), Nkeal Harry, Demaryius Thomas (washed up), Josh Gordon (unreliable, annual suspension waiting to happen), Gunner Olszewski (UDFA), and Jakobi Meyers (UDFA) as our main receivers. What did the Pats expect to happen? Gordon was predictably suspended and didn't finish the season again. Thomas was traded for a bag of peanuts (essentially cut). Dorsett disappeared after week 1.
- The above point forced desperate moves such as AB signing which turned out to be nothing more than a distraction and waste of time. It also forced the desperate trade for Mohamed Sanu which was very un-Patriot-like.
- Not giving Damien Harris a shot. When it became clear that Sony Michel couldnt get anything going, it was time for a change. Instead the Pats stuck with Sony who was probably the worst starting RB in the entire league this year. His season long run was 26 yards. 26! He averaged 3.7 ypc and usually went down on first contact. The Pats spent a 3rd rd pick on Harris and he barely suited up this year.
Actually, this sentence is what’s laughable. I’m going to assume that you’re joking.Claiming they didn't address the TE position when they signed 5 veterans and acquired a 6th is laughable.
In the end of the day we have drafted 5 starters in the last 4 drafts: Sony, Wynn, Thuney, Karras, and Bailey. One of those is a plodder RB who offers nothing in the passing game, the other has played around 10 games in 2 years, Thuney is a home run but probably walks, and one is a solid backup thrust into a starting role (who may walk), and the last is a punter.
The recent subpar drafts are the reason for the teams struggles this season. There is no real way around it. We need playmakers who can step right in and this year we had a second and third round pick who were healthy scratches almost all year. We need for the 2019 class to step up and we need to nail this years class. This is an old roster that needs an infusion of young cheap talent to bridge the gap for when Brady does leave.
Always love the “hindsight is 20/20!!” trope. I’m not saying they should’ve drafted a 7 pro bowlers each year all I’m asking for is a few quality starters. The only reliable quality starter in the last few drafts is Thuney and he’s likely to walk. Wynn has looked okay but has missed a ton of games and the jury is still out on Harry. I don’t care what anyone says, Sony is not worthy of a first round pick and I don’t really view him as a “quality” starter.In the past 4 years the draft picks have not been stellar, but this team has never been built on the draft alone..
2019... Harry #32 pick, Willliams #45
2018.. Winn #23 pick, Michel #31
2017.. No 1st or second round pick
2016... Cyrus Jones #60 pick
Subpar drafts?? In the past 4 years the Pats have had 4 picks in the first two rounds while picking at the end of the round.. could they have done better, maybe, but hindsight is not the way to look at this team who has gone to the SB for 3 of the past 4 years...
Tough to find "playmakers" who make an immediate impact at the end of the first round.. they exist, but as in many situations they are sometimes stumbled upon rather than just "found"..