Welcome back Isaiah Wynn

[RobertWeathers]

I hope he is healthy. I am still reeling over the loss of Mosslost

Me too.

Last week the mods at Chiefs Planet moved him to the "Romper Room" which is basically the Phantom Zone for unruly house guests that troll their board.

@Yehoodi knows what I speak of.

 

[Betterthanmost]

I tell you this, Brady was 10/10 in the Miami game with Wynn, then the beast in #72 took over and he started the quick throws and the no patience came to being.
Wynn made the Steelers game also easy for Brady. It did not help in the run game though.

 

[Clonamery]

I hope he is healthy. I am still reeling over the loss of Mosslost

I like to think in reality he has a life sized poster of Patrick Pass surrounded with hearts and rainbows in his man cave.

 

[shmessy]

captain stone is my favorite poster on this site

Mine too.

(Ok, in the top 17, at least).

Al hamdu lilah!!!

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[BUSTAMOVE]

Me too.

Last week the mods at Chiefs Planet moved him to the "Romper Room" which is basically the Phantom Zone for unruly house guests that troll their board.

@Yehoodi knows what I speak of.

In Chiefs Planet you can insult a persons mother with no repercussions but when you insult their QB you get put in a room. That website is one big padded cell

 

[patfanken]

Here's the thing why Wynn coming back is so important. It's not like he's the instant savior. But the OL will improve incrementally. Having a guy out there with the skills to block his man one on one, makes EVERYONE else's job that much easier. Remember we aren't talking about making THAT much of an improvement. Keeping Brady clean even a second longer widens the route options that much more.

BTW- even WITH Newhouse, the Pats pass protection has hasn't been all that bad this year. Brady has been sacked just 17 times. That's 4th fewest in the NFL (Dallas at 12 is the best) And the 51 QB hits is fewer than the 54 Dallas has allowed with their all world OL.

The run game is another issue all together. Losing, Gronk, Devlin, AND Andrews were HUGE hits. It's not JUST the OL that creates success or failure for the run game. Then when you add Wynn, this is over half your run lane creation. So just having Wynn coming back is not going to SOLVE the running game issues, though it should improve it...incrementally.

So in the end, I see Wynn's return as very important to the Pats offense, but not the "answer" to all the issues. But that being said I think the answers ARE out there. In other words, I think the "talent" we have on hand is enough to produce something close to the kind of offense we've become used to as it develops over the last 6 games of the season. It would seem at this point we are 14 games into our season long PREseason. Hopefully, come the start of the REAL season in January, we will have this offense thing figured out.

 

[RobertWeathers]

In Chiefs Planet you can insult a persons mother with no repercussions but when you insult their QB you get put in a room. That website is one big padded cell

Yea thats pretty much accurate.

 

[VJCPatriot]

If he plays 9 full games this year in a row, I'd be happier, that means we made the super bowl.

Have the Patriots even activated Wynn from IR yet?

I'd like to see him back because he's bound to be better than the dumpster fire that is Newhouse, but haven't seen any confirmation yet of his roster status.

If he plays 6 full games I will be happy

PFK I believe those sack totals are deceptive. Brady was already one of the quickest QBs at getting the ball away. So compared to the average NFL QB he is far more savvy about throwing the football away when there's no chance of completing a pass in time. But the bottom line is that Brady has had to throw away the ball way more this season compared to last year because he isn't getting enough time. The pass protection IS MUCH WORSE than the sack totals lead you to believe.

I do agree about the run game though. As a whole the OL is much worse running the ball than last year. Basically everything you want from an OL has been downgraded from last year whether it's protecting the QB or rushing with the football. There are very few holes for Michel and Burkhead to run through.

It speaks volumes about the deplorable state of the OL when we are pinning so much hopes on one guy coming back from injury who has had a grand total of 2 games of actual NFL experience in his whole career to date. Don't get me wrong, I hope Wynn's return creates a domino effect on the OL. But we'll just have to wait and see what happens now. The Patriots are going to face their harshest competition over their next 3 consecutive games vs the Cowboys, Texans, and Chiefs and we're going to need that OL and offense to step up.

BTW- even WITH Newhouse, the Pats pass protection has hasn't been all that bad this year. Brady has been sacked just 17 times. That's 4th fewest in the NFL (Dallas at 12 is the best) And the 51 QB hits is fewer than the 54 Dallas has allowed with their all world OL.

The run game is another issue all together. Losing, Gronk, Devlin, AND Andrews were HUGE hits. It's not JUST the OL that creates success or failure for the run game. Then when you add Wynn, this is over half your run lane creation. So just having Wynn coming back is not going to SOLVE the running game issues, though it should improve it...incrementally.

 

[RobertWeathers]

If he plays 9 full games this year in a row, I'd be happier, that means we made the super bowl.

Have the Patriots even activated Wynn from IR yet?

I'd like to see him back because he's bound to be better than the dumpster fire that is Newhouse, but haven't seen any confirmation yet of his roster status.

Bill doesn't need to activate him until the weekend.

 

[Kontradiction]

Here's the thing why Wynn coming back is so important. It's not like he's the instant savior. But the OL will improve incrementally. Having a guy out there with the skills to block his man one on one, makes EVERYONE else's job that much easier. Remember we aren't talking about making THAT much of an improvement. Keeping Brady clean even a second longer widens the route options that much more.

BTW- even WITH Newhouse, the Pats pass protection has hasn't been all that bad this year. Brady has been sacked just 17 times. That's 4th fewest in the NFL (Dallas at 12 is the best) And the 51 QB hits is fewer than the 54 Dallas has allowed with their all world OL.

The run game is another issue all together. Losing, Gronk, Devlin, AND Andrews were HUGE hits. It's not JUST the OL that creates success or failure for the run game. Then when you add Wynn, this is over half your run lane creation. So just having Wynn coming back is not going to SOLVE the running game issues, though it should improve it...incrementally.

So in the end, I see Wynn's return as very important to the Pats offense, but not the "answer" to all the issues. But that being said I think the answers ARE out there. In other words, I think the "talent" we have on hand is enough to produce something close to the kind of offense we've become used to as it develops over the last 6 games of the season. It would seem at this point we are 14 games into our season long PREseason. Hopefully, come the start of the REAL season in January, we will have this offense thing figured out.

Harry actually appeared to be open for two big gains (one of which may have been 7) downfield. Brady didn’t throw to him. I have to think the pass pro had a LOT to do with that.

 

[sean10mm]

Harry actually appeared to be open for two big gains (one of which may have been 7) downfield. Brady didn’t throw to him. I have to think the pass pro had a LOT to do with that.

The offensive playcalling really seemed to be all over the place in that game. They took some deep shots out of nowhere when they just needed a couple yards, and then other times completely turned turtle on 3rd & single digits.

 

[Deus Irae]

The offensive playcalling really seemed to be all over the place in that game. They took some deep shots out of nowhere when they just needed a couple yards, and then other times completely turned turtle on 3rd & single digits.

Name the team that doesn't do that, and you'll have found the unicorn.

 

[sean10mm]

Name the team that doesn't do that, and you'll have found the unicorn.

Nobody's perfect, but that draw on 3rd & 7 was downright egregious.

 

[Deus Irae]

Nobody's perfect, but that draw on 3rd & 7 was downright egregious.

One of the problems with analysis of play calling is that people think it's as easy as "If not 'a', then 'b'". It doesn't work that way. The passes on first and second down didn't get the job done. The passing game wasn't getting the job done, in general.

 

[luuked]

The offensive playcalling really seemed to be all over the place in that game. They took some deep shots out of nowhere when they just needed a couple yards, and then other times completely turned turtle on 3rd & single digits.

Brady took the deep shots into 1v1 coverage often when his first read (mostly Edelman) was doubled or wasn't open. At least thats what I saw. He really doesn't seem to have much patience right now for even medium-developing plays which is where Wynn could help a lot over time.

 

[captain stone]

Given the "sad faces" and "dislikes" throughout this string, I'm guessing Captain Stone has a thing about the Arabic language that upsets him.

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It's not the language itself, but you knew that already.

 

[captain stone]

I sometimes worry about his health.

I hope he is healthy. I am still reeling over the loss of Mosslost

Still kickin' and screamin' for another year, baby!

 

[Sicilian]

The offensive playcalling really seemed to be all over the place in that game. They took some deep shots out of nowhere when they just needed a couple yards, and then other times completely turned turtle on 3rd & single digits.

I think the playcalling was largely fine. What wasn't fine was it seemed like everytime a player was supposed to run a screen, they weren't ready for the ball when it came to them. Not sure if that's rust from the bye week, the offense still getting it's timing down, or just bad execution, but it certainly wasn't the playcall. Despite throwing the TD pass, Edelman had a rough game with a couple misconnections on screens and and the big drop in the end zone.

 

[shmessy]

It's not the language itself, but you knew that already.

No I didn't. I have no idea what in the world you're talking about.
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[patfanken]

Harry actually appeared to be open for two big gains (one of which may have been 7) downfield. Brady didn’t throw to him. I have to think the pass pro had a LOT to do with that.

Right - an extra half second and Brady sees him. Sometimes that's all it takes.

I don't think Newhouse is as bad as he's portrayed, but Wynn's coming back will be a huge improvement. We could see it in the game he played.

I've always thought he was the archetype for the NEW LT for today's lighter faster defenses. He's the guy with quick enough feet to run with those 4.5 speed rushers off the edge. I didn't know what to make of him since he missed his rookie year, but in TC and when he finally played, he was everything I hoped he'd be.

I don't expect him to be perfect against Dallas, since it is his first game back, but after that, I expect him to be the successful starting LT for the Pats for the next decade.