Is Newhouse the worst tackle you have seen play for this team?

[TomPatriot]

Why is a retirement in Training Camp the end. Belichick found players at other positions. Wasn't this a matter of resources? For example, in Training camp, could we have gotten a swing OT for a 2nd round draft choice?

Like who? You want to spend a 2 on a slight upgrade over Newhouse?

 

[TomPatriot]

I was just about to say this- the guy actually gave up just one sack and the torches and pitchforks crowd comes out.

I keep saying this but the guy is not that athletic, otherwise he wouldn't be sitting on the streets, but he does put in the work and is very diligent. I haven't seen him continuously make the same mistake.

He may actually be an average starting tackle by the end of the year. There I said it. Ouch, those pitchforks actually hurt!

 

[p8ryts]

In addition talking heads say he wasn't given much help in the chip, double department

 

[203Pat]

I’m usually a big fan of Evan but this isn’t even close. He allowed a sack, two QB hits, a pressure, and had a hold.
In the second quarter Newhouse allowed the pressure that caused the intentional grounding (whether it was a good call or not), and then got called for that holding penalty and pretty much took us out of field goal range. Back to back screwups that potentially cost us 3 points.

 

[TheAdultintheRoom]

Kudos for the joke poll with yes as the only option. So simple, yet I never thought of it. It's like when one of those really useful but simple gadgets comes out, and you're like, "come on, how did I not think of that? I could have been a millionaire!"

 

[TinhWoodhead]

Newhouse should be looking for a new house if he isn’t already

 

[jah]

Maybe only because Jordan Devey was primarily a guard here.

 

[borg]

 

[Master Yates]

People forget how royally Bill ****ed up the position with his schitty draft of Antonio Garcia and Isaiah Wynn (yes, jury is still out but the guy has played in 2 games out of 28 possible games to date so he's unequivocally a BUST to this point). Drafted Garcia in 17 to apprentice a year behind Solder until Solder inevitably left for free agency. Guy comes down with blood clots, never plays a game and gets cut.
So the Pats ride out 2017 with Solder on his last year and LaAdrian Waddle at LT. In 2018 they draft Wynn, he gets hurt and then they're forced to trade for a LT because Waddle isn't starter quality (but I think is better than OutHouse, I mean Newhouse) and they acquire Trent Brown on a one year deal. Cool, but once again, you've now got a guy with a serious injury history slated to be your starter in 2019, as we know Brown was here for only a year. And voila, Wynn is injured AGAIN and the Patriots are forced to sign a street free agent to start at left tackle and protect the blind side of the greatest NFL player of all time. Let's not forget the draft of Cajuste, who was expected to see playing time at both tackle spots...and, yup, ANOTHER injury.
Marshall Newhouse is a career backup who should be this team's LaAdrian Waddle, but instead, because they have had weak drafts at the position, here we are.
Spare me the "how was Bill going to know about the blood clots/injuries, etc".
Facts are facts, they don't lie, and facts are the Patriots missing on 2 straight left tackle draft picks (three straight misses if you include Cajuste) is the reason we're watching Newhouse waddle around the field when he's at best a back up - not his fault, but he was thrust into this position...

Take a deep breath.

 

[pats_premi]

Newhouse is what he is. I’m more disappointed with other OL on Patriots roster that he is starting over.

 

[203Pat]

Newhouse is what he is. I’m more disappointed with other OL on Patriots roster that he is starting over.

True. 3/5 of the line have been pretty bad. Thuney and Karras (aside from some strange snaps) have played well but Cannon has been shaky and Mason hasn’t been his usual self. Looks of bad protection issues against the Ravens on some of the overload blitzes.

 

[primetime]

Gronk and a capable blocking tight end like Allen made much more of a difference to the offensive line than thought.

 

[mgteich]

What you are saying is that LT and swing tackles positions really aren't that important. The positions only justifies seeking "good cheap tackles".

They signed Veldheer and he retired after one OTA. They then traded for Cunningham and Eluemenor, who can supposedly play tackle in s pinch. Not sure there were any good cheap tackles out there.

 

[mgteich]

I'm asking. I don't know who was available; none of us know. What we do know is that Brady and the entire offense has been risked on Newhouse, given that we have little help from TE or FB.

"Slight upgrade"? Why is the LT position and the swing tackle positions only worthy of a slight upgrade over Newhouse.
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IMHO, one of two things are true. Either Newhouse and Cunningham were reasonable choices, given what was available OR Belichick should have used more resources.

Like who? You want to spend a 2 on a slight upgrade over Newhouse?

 

[IllegalContact]

at least he stepped onto the field........used a 3rd round pick on Garcia....how'd that work out?

 

[TomPatriot]

I'm asking. I don't know who was available; none of us know. What we do know is that Brady and the entire offense has been risked on Newhouse, given that we have little help from TE or FB.

"Slight upgrade"? Why is the LT position and the swing tackle positions only worthy of a slight upgrade over Newhouse.
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IMHO, one of two things are true. Either Newhouse and Cunningham were reasonable choices, given what was available OR Belichick should have used more resources.

By necessity you would probably be getting a team's third best tackle.

You might be right. Maybe more resources should have been used. But if you used a 2, you probably don't get Sanu and a 2 is a steep price for the quality of swing tackle who would have been available.

 

[Brick27]

Gronk and a capable blocking tight end like Allen made much more of a difference to the offensive line than thought.

Interesting looking back on Gronk’s last year knowing what we do now. Career lows in yards per game and touchdowns, and throughout the year he obviously didn’t seem to be the same Gronk. And yet, it was arguably his most impactful year when considering what he meant to the team in the run game and his performance through the playoffs.

 

[mgteich]

Now, we are nitpicking about the price. Perhaps a 3rd would have been enough, or two 3rds. Perhaps no one was available who was much better than Newhouse. Perhaps dante actually likes Newhouse and Cunningham, and will want them for 2020 training camp.

By necessity you would probably be getting a team's third best tackle.

You might be right. Maybe more resources should have been used. But if you used a 2, you probably don't get Sanu and a 2 is a steep price for the quality of swing tackle who would have been available.

 

[captain stone]

Is Newhouse the worst tackle you have seen play for this team?

Yes.

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

Bledsoe would not a approve your message Max Lane was a Decent Tackle.

He had the misfortune of facing an all time great ( Reggie White) in a Super Bowl WITHOUT HELP!!!!!!