Schefter: Just based on the facts...Brady thinking/setting up to leave NE

[IllegalContact]

I’d assume a real patriot fan would care if Brady stays since, you know, winning matters.

A real Patriots fan is not going to be fair-weather......winning is better, but not really that big of a deal when it comes to entertainment

 

[ViperGTS]

Can the Bears afford Brady?

They have a possible 11 million in 2020. Trubisky has what looks to be a 9ish dead cap hit for 2020 if released and 4 if traded. So no, don’t think they can.

 

[IllegalContact]

so which teams besides the Pats can actually keep their QB healthy? none of the ones that need one

 

[Ring 6]

A real Patriots fan is not going to be fair-weather......winning is better, but not really that big of a deal when it comes to entertainment

Yeah to me winning IS the entertainment. Doesn’t mean you are a fair weather fan because you want them to win.

 

[IllegalContact]

Yeah to me winning IS the entertainment. Doesn’t mean you are a fair weather fan because you want them to win.

I want them to win....but as I have for >40 years, I'm still going to watch every game.....scoreboard hits 0:00 and its on to the next thing on my agenda

TRust me......half of you would not be here if it weren't for the winning

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I just want to know the missing part of the equation here, if Schefter is aware of something behind public facts. He is not one to speculate and stake his reputation on guesses, and despite him claiming this is just speculation, he knows that’s not how this will be interpreted. He’s saying he thinks Brady doesn’t want to play for the Patriots, or the Patriots don’t want Brady.

1. It makes no sense for Brady to go to another team from a competitive standpoint. No team is even close to the Patriots in terms of supporting cast and coaching.

2. Let’s remember that most athletes, and the ones Brady likely named, like Farve, Manning and Montana, were forced out because of a younger emerging superstar. The Patriots do not have that, unless you think Stidham is the chosen one. I don’t buy it. In addition, the Patriots have a lot of legacy stake in Brady retiring with the team.

3. So given that a breakup is irrational for both sides, his leads me to believe that if there is information that Schefter has, it has something to do with a personality/ ego/ control situation like the reports in 2017. I do not think Brady or Belichick care about “proving” they can win without the other...that’s totally unsupported. Here are the potential divides that I could see:

Speculation A. Brady feels disrespected that the Patriots didn’t give him the long term extension he wanted. It comes back to the Guerrero rift again, where Brady believes wholeheartedly he can play until 45, and the team doubting him as a slap in the face to his whole belief system and TB12 Inc. He wants security and feels he’s earned it, and he basically said this politely after the contract was signed. Remember, this is a guy who feeds off of doubt, and that point should not be underestimated..this is the first time his own team has been the doubters, in his mind.

Speculation B. Brady wants to have a lot more leeway with his football/personal time at his age. Some older vets QBs have worked out deals where they had a lot of personal days. Belichick may be unwilling to do that, whereas other coaches may be (and beyond that, the grind of playing for NE is different from the laid back atmosphere of some other organizations.). I believe they could have kept Gronkowski if they had allowed for preferential treatment.

Speculation C. Both sides are just posturing as much as possible as a normal contract standoff and plan to continue working together. Brady doesn’t want to get lowballed, and the team doesn’t want to concede that they will pay anything to keep him. You have the ultimate game of chicken here, though sometimes these things blow up in the wrong direction once the reality of free agency begins.

Point D (not speculation). I honestly don’t think Brady has an answer for whether or not he wants to retire. This just adds more fuel to the fire for the Patriots position of not being sure if they want to commit. However, I think the Patriots are protected financially if Brady does retire early, and it’s not like they have some elite QB they’re passing on by giving him a multi-year extension.

 

[Boston Boxer]

unless Jay Glazer breaks the news, then i dont believe any of this. I'll wait for him to chime in

 

[BTTA]

What do we know about the house they bought in Connecticut? Is it on the water? Could they simply be moving to be closer to both of their business interests in NYC?

 

[IllegalContact]

I just want to know the missing part of the equation here, if Schefter is aware of something behind public facts. He is not one to speculate and stake his reputation on guesses, and despite him claiming this is just speculation, he knows that’s not how this will be interpreted. He’s saying he thinks Brady doesn’t want to play for the Patriots, or the Patriots don’t want Brady.

1. It makes no sense for Brady to go to another team from a competitive standpoint. No team is even close to the Patriots in terms of supporting cast and coaching.

2. Let’s remember that most athletes, and the ones Brady likely named, like Farve, Manning and Montana, were forced out because of a younger emerging superstar. The Patriots do not have that, unless you think Stidham is the chosen one. I don’t buy it. In addition, the Patriots have a lot of legacy stake in Brady retiring with the team.

3. So given that a breakup is irrational for both sides, his leads me to believe that if there is information that Schefter has, it has something to do with a personality/ ego/ control situation like the reports in 2017. I do not think Brady or Belichick care about “proving” they can win without the other...that’s totally unsupported. Here are the potential divided that I could see:

Speculation A. Brady feels disrespected that the Patriots didn’t give him the long term extension he wanted. It comes back to the Guerrero rift again, where Brady believes wholeheartedly he can play until 45, and the team doubting him as a slap in the face to his whole belief system and TB12 Inc. He wants security and feels he’s earned it, and he basically said this politely after the contract was signed.

Speculation B. Brady wants to have a lot more leeway with his football/personal time at his age. Some older vets QBs have worked out deals where they had a lot of personal days. Belichick may be unwilling to do that, whereas other coaches may be (and beyond that, the grind of playing for NE is different from the laid back atmosphere of some other organizations.). I believe they could have kept Gronkowski if they had allowed for preferential treatment.

Speculation C. Both sides are just posturing as much as possible as a normal contract standoff and plan to continue working together. Brady doesn’t want to get lowballed, and the team doesn’t want to concede that they will pay anything to keep him. You have the ultimate game of chicken here, though sometimes these things blow up in the wrong direction once the reality of free agency begins.

Point D (not speculation). I honestly don’t think Brady has an answer for whether or not he wants to retire. This just adds more fuel to the fire for the Patriots position of not being sure if they want to commit. However, I think the Patriots are protected financially if Brady does retire early, and it’s not like they have some elite QB they’re passing on by giving him a multi-year extension.

if anything, all those moves away from football have little to nothing to actually do with football.......they have a 12 year old, 10 year old, and 7 year old.......maybe they want to go somewhere where people won't drool all over their kids.......big picture dictates that moving now is probably better for the kids than moving in 3 years or more.

It's such a non-story turned into people giving themselves wedgies

 

[Steamer86]

I’m guessing he retires after this year. Goes out on top. Too much risk in leaving for another team. Does he really want to go out as a 43 year old playing for Tennessee with new coaches and teammates. If he misses playoffs and looks old, people will say it was the BB system that made him great. On other hand if he wins big at 43 with another team and Pats struggle, he will get the accolades, but I think the former is more likely and not worth the risk. Maybe he wants the challenge, but I don’t think so. He sounds like this year might be it.

 

[Soliel]

My money is on him playing next year here

 

[Clonamery]

What do we know about the house they bought in Connecticut? Is it on the water? Could they simply be moving to be closer to both of their business interests in NYC?

Greenwich, on the water.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Greenwich, on the water.

....and Guerrero is moving to Norwalk.

 

[Clonamery]

....and Guerrero is moving to Norwalk.

I would have guessed Weston. Neighbors with Keef Richards.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

....and Guerrero is moving to Norwalk.

Greenwich is a 2.5 hour drive from Foxboro. Lol at people thinking he's going to commute to practice...

 

[GodBrady]

I feel like there is a good chance that Brady retires after this year.

That said, it feels like Schefter is being a little obtuse with his language to try to drum up controversy. He keeps saying "good chance he leaves New England", which is a little ambiguous --- it's open for the interpretation of "leaves New England to go play somewhere else". In reality, "leaves New England" could also be simply "leaves New England on account of him retiring".

Instead of just saying "Brady might retire", he's trying to be cute with his language to make a story out of it.

Schefter is reputable, but ESPN is not. They're probably telling him to be vague to get clicks and views. It's hard to take seriously anything anyone from that network says. That's just the state of journalism these days.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Greenwich is a 2.5 hour drive from Foxboro. Lol at people thinking he's going to commute to practice...

Not a snowballs chance in hell......

I've heard he'll take the Fung Wa. Gisele wants him to be mindful of his carbon footprint.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

I feel like there is a good chance that Brady retires after this year.

That said, it feels like Schefter is being a little obtuse with his language to try to drum up controversy. He keeps saying "good chance he leaves New England", which is a little ambiguous --- it's open for the interpretation of "leaves New England to go play somewhere else". In reality, "leaves New England" could also be simply "leaves New England on account of him retiring".

Instead of just saying "Brady might retire", he's trying to be cute with his language to make a story out of it.

Schefter is reputable, but ESPN is not. They're probably telling him to be vague to get clicks and views. It's hard to take seriously anything anyone from that network says. That's just the state of journalism these days.

That would be completely out of character for Schefter. He bats about .999 when it comes to getting the inside scoop correct. He is careful no to exaggerate or even make predictions unless he is nearly certain they will happen. He obviously knows something more about the situation, just like he nailed the Jimmy G. situation when he said Jimmy G. would not be traded in the 2017 offseason unless someone offered a king's ransom; sure enough, the Patriots demanded a king's ransom and he didn't get traded. He clearly has at least one, if not multiple, sources within the Patriots organization who really know what's going on with the Patriots and Brady. They may have given him the info under the condition that he can't reveal the details because they don't want another in-season sht storm controversy about some rift between Brady and Belichick/management. He isn't a "hot take" guy who just throws out random theory and then doubles down on it.

Important to note he is not saying: Brady WILL NOT be back with the Patriots either. He has reason to believe at the moment Brady is leaning towards retiring or playing somewhere else. I wish he would drop some more hints as to what's going on.

 

[PatsGirl2011]

That would be completely out of character for Schefter. He bats about .999 when it comes to getting the inside scoop correct. He is careful no to exaggerate or even make predictions unless he is nearly certain they will happen. He obviously knows something more about the situation, just like he nailed the Jimmy G. situation when he said Jimmy G. would not be traded in the 2017 offseason unless someone offered a king's ransom; sure enough, the Patriots demanded a king's ransom and he didn't get traded. He clearly has at least one, if not multiple, sources within the Patriots organization who really know what's going on with the Patriots and Brady. They may have given him the info under the condition that he can't reveal the details because they don't want another in-season sht storm controversy about some rift between Brady and Belichick/management.

We didn’t get a king’s random for Jimmy. Second, Schefter’s been providing his speculation on Brady’s selling his house even though Tom said there was nothing to it because it’s going to be a while before it’s sold like his house in California.

 

[festy1986]

So is Brady retiring or just leaving? What is the consensus?

I never gave it much thought because I had assumed he was gonna be here next year and everything else was just meh. But now it looks like things are heating up sadly.