What's with all the hatred for your team?

[DisgruntledTunaFan]

Just curious-it seems like every week in every year, some player on the opposition is making nasty comments about the Pats.

Seriously-compared to the glitz and glamour of the 70's Steelers/80's Niners/90's Cowboys, the Pats have all but been a low profile, hard working blue collar team that plays under the radar, but en yet, they get more hate than those teams.

Personally-Patrick Crayton is my favorite Dallas player b/c of his great hands and his hard work ethics(he was a 7th round draft steal that Parcells always raved about, b/c of his hands). But unlike my fellow Dallas fans, I'm very upset that he's opening his mouth and acting like sour grapes-this is so unlike him, and I hope this doesn't continue.

 

[LoveDemPats]

Just curious-it seems like every week in every year, some player on the opposition is making nasty comments about the Pats.

Seriously-compared to the glitz and glamour of the 70's Steelers/80's Niners/90's Cowboys, the Pats have all but been a low profile, hard working blue collar team that plays under the radar, but en yet, they get more hate than those teams.

Personally-Patrick Crayton is my favorite Dallas player b/c of his great hands and his hard work ethics(he was a 7th round draft steal that Parcells always raved about, b/c of his hands). But unlike my fellow Dallas fans, I'm very upset that he's opening his mouth and acting like sour grapes-this is so unlike him, and I hope this doesn't continue.

Better communication. The internet. More fools sounding off. The stuff feeds on itself. The media tags certain people who will give them what they want, (wild quotes) and away it goes.

 

[smg93]

It's because we tell every team before they face us that they are the best team ever and then we go out and kick ther a ss (usually). It's that whole reverse psychology thing that people are pissed off about

 

[sieglo]

It's because they hate our freedom.

 

[Flying Fungi]

what hate?

everybody loves us!

 

[SVN]

i will quote vrabel

When asked if he felt the Pats have become targets, Vrabel seemed to think that might be true.

“I guess that’s the easy thing now: The Patriots are dirty. First we were cheaters, then we’re dirty. Now we’re classless,” he said. “I don’t know, I really don’t. We don’t say a whole lot. We try to go out there and play. I guess if you don’t say a lot, you’re not a good player. People perceive the good players as the ones who talk.

“I certainly feel bad for anyone who thinks that’s the way we play. We just try to play tough. Whether we do that all the time or not, that’s how we try to play.”

 

[PatsFaninAZ]

I think the answer has more to do with sociology than football.

We live in an era where irony, sarcasm, and polarization rule. The 2000 election changed a lot, and was actually a very important sociological phenomenon.

Our defintions of "news" have changed. It's more about entertainment, and filling 24 hour sports and "news" channels with actual news is more and more difficult. Opinion passes as news. Polarization -- getting two talking heads to take extreme positions and defend them -- sells advertising time much better. Picking sides -- whether your side is Bill O'Reilly or Keith Olberman -- has been shown to be profitable, because people like to hear what they already believe and polarization breeds entrenchment to one's position and intolerance to debate.

That's the answer. Stuff gets covered in a way that will polarize. Negativity polarizes. That's the bottom line.

 

[SVN]

Personally-Patrick Crayton is my favorite Dallas player b/c of his great hands and his hard work ethics(he was a 7th round draft steal that Parcells always raved about, b/c of his hands). But unlike my fellow Dallas fans, I'm very upset that he's opening his mouth and acting like sour grapes-this is so unlike him, and I hope this doesn't continue.

i think not hope but think the honeymoon with wade will soon wear off. Everyone criticized parcells for his tough attitude and all that stuff and now everyone is talking freely because wade is a 'nice guy'. I tell you one thing..if parcells had been coaching now you wouldnt have heard crayton talk crap or your team have 12 penalties .just my 2 cents.

 

[patsfan13]

A lot of envy, the Pats are the team of the decade jealously goes with the territory.

 

[Na_polian]

People hating the Patriots is merely proof that the terrorists have won

 

[Richter]

Apparently those early 90's Cowboys teams really did pass you by. They got so much hate, on so many levels. The only difference, is that the Internet and the schlock media of today were not nearly as prevalent.

 

[CTPatsFan]

Success breeds contempt. Especially when it's fairly consistent for an extended period.

The teams that seem to have the problem with the Pats are generally the ones with mouthpieces that like to spout off and make little comments or gestures. Those are the ones the Pats seem to take great pride in shoving those little comments or gestures back in their teams' faces.

Play the game hard and keep the flack to a minimum and the Pats do the same. Whine about the coach cheating, question their past successes and tell the reporters to get their popcorn ready for the original 81 show and they'll get fiesty.

 

[DisgruntledTunaFan]

i think not hope but think the honeymoon with wade will soon wear off. Everyone criticized parcells for his tough attitude and all that stuff and now everyone is talking freely because wade is a 'nice guy'. I tell you one thing..if parcells had been coaching now you wouldnt have heard crayton talk crap or your team have 12 penalties .just my 2 cents.

Yeah-I expect TO to have decent behavior for the rest of the year, even if we don't win another game(it's next year, his contract year, he'll likely blow). However-Crayton's comments yesterday disturb me(and I get alot of flack over this on the CMB).

I've been critical of Parcells during his 4 years in Dallas(i.e. ignoring the OL and secondary). However-he DID lobby Jerry to get Jeff Ireland to head the scout team, which is why our 53 man roster is the BEST it's been since our LAST Super Bowl team. I *dread* the day Ireland becomes a GM for another team(unless Jerry fully gets his head out of his *** and realizes his full value).

 

[Satchboogie3]

Media, coaches, players, they can all say what they want. But at the end of the day, it's the Patriots who are winning games and coming closer to a 4th Superbowl title. All the talk in the world won't change that. In fact, it might even give the Patriots even more fuel.

 

[40yrpatsfan]

It's just open season on the Patriots. Crayton, like many offensive opponents we face, is frustrated because he doesn't understand how at the end of the day our D held your offense to 240 yards and 20 points. It's a common refrain.

 

[Pat the Pats Fan]

Every opponent fan thinks their team can: 1. contain our passing attack, 2. stop our runners, 3. sack Brady, 4. run on our defense, 5. pass on our defense, and 6. outscore us. All they have to do is all 6 and they win. Hope springs eternal.

 

[LoveDemPats]

I think the answer has more to do with sociology than football.

We live in an era where irony, sarcasm, and polarization rule. The 2000 election changed a lot, and was actually a very important sociological phenomenon.

Our defintions of "news" have changed. It's more about entertainment, and filling 24 hour sports and "news" channels with actual news is more and more difficult. Opinion passes as news. Polarization -- getting two talking heads to take extreme positions and defend them -- sells advertising time much better. Picking sides -- whether your side is Bill O'Reilly or Keith Olberman -- has been shown to be profitable, because people like to hear what they already believe and polarization breeds entrenchment to one's position and intolerance to debate.

That's the answer. Stuff gets covered in a way that will polarize. Negativity polarizes. That's the bottom line.

Yea, have you heard that dude Savage on the radio?

I have not heard him in a while, but it fits with what you are saying. Yikes, people are affraid to go outside of their own little world and try on new hats and stuff. Its like "mommy said this, and I agree, so that is that."

I know, here I am using my computer to communicate, so I am just as bad, but I think that cells and the puter are making people affraid to venture out. They watch reality tv instead of having a reality themselves.

It is an interesting time to be alive.

 

[LoveDemPats]

People hating the Patriots is merely proof that the terrorists have won

Haaaaaaaaaa

good stuff!

Is there a place that I am supposed to turn in my drivers licence, and keys, and my baseball card collection?

Hey, do you think that the terrorists will (now that they have one) start a new league????

Maybe I can get in on a franchise while the prices are on the low side.

 

[LoveDemPats]

Media, coaches, players, they can all say what they want. But at the end of the day, it's the Patriots who are winning games and coming closer to a 4th Superbowl title. All the talk in the world won't change that. In fact, it might even give the Patriots even more fuel.

Well, all the talk won't change anything except if it is coming from saint Dungy, and then it is all so true that we will feel that we are the same as Barry Bonds, and the black sox, and pete rose, and Benidict arnold, and Sirus the Virus, and ya know, everyone who dosn't want to wash Dunghead's feet.

Oh, me don't likee that guy.

 

[FrontSeven]

..... they get more hate than those teams.

Is that your subjective experience, or is it based upon polling data?

I don't know how any team could have gotten more hate than the nineties' Cowboys since they had so many off-field issues that reflected badly on them.


Dominant teams always get the hate. There are a certain number of people that root for the underdog, and that's that - end of discussion. They hate anything that dominates. I can dig it. I just don't have to right now.