Antonio Brown

[PP2]

If he really wants to come back, he can always sign for the vet min.

 

[ralmat55]

I don't think you should consider yourself such.

You can't go back and change the effects of the previous, terminated contract. Once a contract is terminated its current year cap effects are set in stone.

No matter what, Brown counts for $5mil in dead money this year and there's no way to change that. As far as the cap is concerned Brown Part 2 is a different player than Brown Part 1. The $5mil dead money on the 2019 cap for from Brown Part 1 can't be reduced by a new contract.

So if NE resigned him they'd have to fit him into the current cap the same way they'd have to fit in any newly signed player.

But, the Patriots could agree to actually to pay the bonus from contract 1 in return Brown would drop his grievances. Contract 2 would just consist of his salary for the rest of the season. Brown’s compensation would come from the bonus in Contract 1 and the salary from contract 2 giving it a minimal additional effect on the salary cap.

I’m of multiple minds on the subject of Antonio Brown, but I’m really beginning to believe his returning is indeed a possibility. Today’s reports that Brown wants to settle his off field issues is exactly what he needs to do to clear the decks for a return. The drama can’t come back with him.

Brown needs the Pats more than the Pats need Brown. His reputation is in shambles, and it’s likely, despite his production, that there are no more takers out there for him for more than a minimal salary. He’s a guy who can get a GM and coach fired for taking a chance on him. Returning to the Pats and playing well down the stretch and into the playoffs without further drama is the best way for him to rebuild his value.

 

[tmajr3]

You have a damaged ethical system if you're going to equate sexual assault with having a preference for women in their 20s. There's no hypocrisy here.

sexual assault in which he wasn’t charged. Kraft has been charged with prostitution. My overarching point on hypocrisy was Kraft is hardly “ethical” or moral when it comes to anything in that realm.

 

[Family]

But, the Patriots could agree to actually to pay the bonus from contract 1 in return Brown would drop his grievances. Contract 2 would just consist of his salary for the rest of the season. Brown’s compensation would come from the bonus in Contract 1 and the salary from contract 2 giving it a minimal additional effect on the salary cap.

I’m of multiple minds on the subject of Antonio Brown, but I’m really beginning to believe his returning is indeed a possibility. Today’s reports that Brown wants to settle his off field issues is exactly what he needs to do to clear the decks for a return. The drama can’t come back with him.

Brown needs the Pats more than the Pats need Brown. His reputation is in shambles, and it’s likely, despite his production, that there are no more takers out there for him for more than a minimal salary. He’s a guy who can get a GM and coach fired for taking a chance on him. Returning to the Pats and playing well down the stretch and into the playoffs without further drama is the best way for him to rebuild his value.

It's Bill.

If he wants AB back, it will happen.

Haven't we learned? Kraft folds.

 

[tmajr3]

It's Bill.

If he wants AB back, it will happen.

Haven't we learned? Kraft folds.

Even better, Brady is clearly making it known that he wants him back via his social media activity

 

[stcjones]

AB now marketing several teams with agent per NFL....trying to work with several teams

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

The NFL hasn’t sidelined him at all, he sidelined himself. He’s eligible to play but no one wants to touch him. Any team that wants to can sign him right now.

If he were smart (and a team would allow it) he would sign for the vet’s minimum for the rest of the year, so he can get all the conduct issues resolved. His grievances would still be valid since the amount doesn’t exceed the amounts he’s disputing.

No one wants to sign him since they’d still have to pay him if he goes on the Exempt List, and the timeframe is unclear for how long that process would take and/or how long a suspension would be.

I think there’s almost zero chance he returns to NE. I am obviously for this happening, but I believe that ship has sailed.

 

[tmajr3]

AB now marketing several teams with agent per NFL....trying to work with several teams

Source?

 

[NYCPATS4LIFE]

If he were smart (and a team would allow it) he would sign for the vet’s minimum for the rest of the year, so he can get all the conduct issues resolved. His grievances would still be valid since the amount doesn’t exceed the amounts he’s disputing.

No one wants to sign him since they’d still have to pay him if he goes on the Exempt List, and the timeframe is unclear for how long that process would take and/or how long a suspension would be.

I think there’s almost zero chance he returns to NE. I am obviously for this happening, but I believe that ship has sailed.

He’s never going on the exempt list. That’s just the nfl talking. For what exactly is he going in the exempt lost for?

 

[chris_in_sunnyvale]

I say we bring him back, keep him in a straight jacket in Gillette Stadium jail, and just let him out for practice and games.

If he got wheeled out Hannibal Lecter-style for games, I'd become this board's biggest "Sign AB" proponent.

Regards,
Chris

 

[sportnik]

It's Bill.

If he wants AB back, it will happen.

Haven't we learned? Kraft folds.

Make no mistake, Kraft runs the show. If it was all up to BB, Jimmy G would be the starting QB right now.

 

[Ice_Ice_Brady]

Make no mistake, Kraft runs the show. If it was all up to BB, Jimmy G would be the starting QB right now.

A lot of conflicting reports there, and likely conflicting thoughts within each person involved in it. If John Lynch is to believed, Belichick laughed at Lynch when he inquired about trading for Brady instead of JG.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

If he really wants to come back, he can always sign for the vet min.

His trainer be like, "Don't call it a comeback"

 

[LJRomanoff]

sexual assault in which he wasn’t charged. Kraft has been charged with prostitution. My overarching point on hypocrisy was Kraft is hardly “ethical” or moral when it comes to anything in that realm.

Kraft is not doing anything that's violating anybody's rights, nor is he doing anything that is non-consensual. Nothing he is doing is in the same "realm" as what Brown was accused of doing. It's stunning that you can't see that.

 

[Biffins]

Kraft is not doing anything that's violating anybody's rights, nor is he doing anything that is non-consensual. Nothing he is doing is in the same "realm" as what Brown was accused of doing. It's stunning that you can't see that.

Assuming innocence till the guilt is proven is the bedrock of the justice system. Kraft is guilty of breaking the law. Brown is innocent since the police said there’s no case to pursue. What Brown is “accused” of is irrelevant if the police say there is no case. Anyone can be “accused” of anything.

 

[Angelpats]

Kraft is not doing anything that's violating anybody's rights, nor is he doing anything that is non-consensual. Nothing he is doing is in the same "realm" as what Brown was accused of doing. It's stunning that you can't see that.

What Kraft was doing is illegal. There is video of it. Brown is being accused of doing something illegal, what is stunning are people declaring him guilty when there is a high likelihood that he’s innocent of any wrong doing. Then there are those people saying he should have paid the accuser to keep quiet even if he was innocent.

 

[PP2]

Kraft is not doing anything that's violating anybody's rights, nor is he doing anything that is non-consensual. Nothing he is doing is in the same "realm" as what Brown was accused of doing. It's stunning that you can't see that.

This requires the complete delusion that girls and women voluntarily enter into prostitution which is pure fantasy. Oh sure, there's a rare exception or two, but the vast majority of research has put it beyond a doubt that prostitution is little more than enslavement.

What Orchid Bob did, went against everything Myra Kraft ever stood for.

 

[Ivan]

He’s never going on the exempt list. That’s just the nfl talking. For what exactly is he going in the exempt lost for?

if he settles the cases he will be suspended, just as Roethlisberger was.

 

[Clonamery]

He’s never going on the exempt list. That’s just the nfl talking. For what exactly is he going in the exempt lost for?

...for the pleasure of the NFL Commissioner.

 

[QuantumMechanic]

Then there are those people saying he should have paid the accuser to keep quiet even if he was innocent.

If he had he’d be playing on NE right now, would be $4.5mil richer just from NE right now, wouldn’t have lost endorsements which took more millions out of his pocket, etc.

So yeah - paying the $1.6mil would have been an extremely wise business decision.