Antonio Brown

[ivanvamp]

Didn't Abraham bed his wife's slave?

There's approximately a million examples of sexual immorality in the Bible, if that's what you're getting at.

 

[BradyFTW!]

This is Goodell we are talking about.

Yeah, at the end of the day the lack of any consistent precedent means we can't really even guess what Goodell is going to do here. If he treats this like he did Tyreek Hill, nothing's going to be done anytime soon, pending future developments. If he treats this like Zeke Elliott, the suspension could be coming down any minute now.

 

[patman12]

Must have been part of the "2%"........

I read an article that says the actual % is a range from between 2 and 10. The FBI has it at 8% of accusations being unfounded.

The article also said “that figure does not include any unsubstantiated accusations where an investigation was unable to prove a sexual assault occurred, so an accurate figure for the total remains unknown”.

So...I guess that means there’s a ton of variability in the false allegation percent discussion.

 

[RxJock1120]

If she was unaware he was jacking off and he sprayed it on her back, she has a sex harassment case. That's not the kind of thing you do to a girl and then say "surprise!" She's got a complaint on that even if they had sex before.

Right....she was unaware he was jacking off, but close enough to him to have it sprayed on her.

If someone was that close to me I would certainly know what was happening.

And she may have a complaint, but not a legal one. If you are in a consentual sexual relationship with someone and they perform a sex act you are not comfortable with, you tell them no or to stop or dump their ass...you don't sue them.

Also, I wasn't suggesting that is an appropriate way to treat a woman, but I also have no comment or any say on what gets people off.

 

[PatsGirl2011]

I’m sure Goddell is hoping something happens soon and everyone turns the page.

 

[ivanvamp]

Yeah, that's pretty much self-evident. You're also considerably less likely to ski into a tree if you don't ski at all, but I'm not really sure that that's a moral indictment of skiing.

Casual, attachment-free sex has existed for longer than humans have, and there's nothing inherently wrong with it. It's riskier than not having casual sex, but that can be said about tons of things. There are a hundred things any one of us will do today that we'd be a little safer if we didn't do them. Like eating a burger or something.

I didn't say anything about morality.

 

[Deus Irae]

I just want a week where we can talk about the upcoming game...team...how they did.

Every week from the Kraft incident to now this...it's always something.

I still don't like AB and when pats signed him I wasn't holding my breath he would last the year and now I don't care one bit if he's dropped today..next week ect or stays and helps.

Just play football and get the drama away from me.

End rant

No offense to you, as I'm with you in principle. BUT

Let's be honest, here. This particular week, with this particular team (2019 LOLphins) would be really lame discussion. We could get into it, but it'll be about 10 minutes worth of legit posting followed by days of absolute nothingness.

1. LOLphins suck
2. LOLphins have a good CB, but he can't cover every Patriots WR at the same time
3. LOLphins have traded away talent for draft picks, effectively taking the season
4. LOLphins have Ryan FitzPickSix as their starting QB
   
5. Patriots only excuse for losing is that they do it so often in Miami

I may have missed something, but it's not likely to be something of import.

 

[IllegalContact]

Not new information but i haven't seen NFL put someone on exempt list for civil cases. But for criminal cases, they are pretty quick to put them on it. Granted, DA is still "investigating" and haven't filed any criminal charges yet. That's really where I was coming from.

ok.......that works......but as of right now, no charges have been filed......they may or they may not

 

[EddardSnow67]

There's approximately a million examples of sexual immorality in the Bible, if that's what you're getting at.

I think what's being asserted is that morality in and of itself is largely relative and thus arbitrary, at least across human made belief systems.

 

[fnordcircle]

I don't know if I've ever gone from being so stoked to so unstoked so quickly in my life.

 

[BradyFTW!]

I'm going to "look into" taking a piss. This is political hogwash, remember all DAs are politicians, and what is a better move politically right now in Pittsburgh than to damage Brown and the Patriots.

Hopefully they do send a detective down to talk to her. I'm sure her lawyer will not let her talk to them. But without a complaint and a cooperating witness, they can "look into" something all day long, but nothing will ever come of it.

Yeah, it's an elected position and he just fended off his first primary challenge in 20 years. It's pretty likely that he just wants some positive headlines and sees attaching his name to this case as an easy way to do it. I don't expect this to go anywhere because everything being alleged happened outside his jurisdiction anyway. And that's saying nothing of the credibility of the case itself,I just generally take a very dim view of prosecutors in election season. If a criminal investigation has any legs we'll probably see it start where these alleged incidents happened.

 

[Deus Irae]

My wife and I have been discussing high-profile rape cases for a while now. Weinstein, Cosby, and the allegations against new Supreme Court Judge Kavanaugh got the discussions going.

She thinks it’s very unlikely that women are lying about being raped in general, though there can be cases where they are lying. She just thinks men don’t understand how badly being raped destroys a woman, and how humiliating it is to go public (your sex life is open for the world to see, your parents know about this, etc.)

I agree with her that generally women are almost always telling the truth, but I am always skeptical when it involves celebrities...like, what kind of motives/expectations does this person have at the beginning in chasing down some famous guy with lots of money. It’s a good discussion with different perspectives.

One thing I try to get across to her is the old saying that it’s better to let 10 guilty people go free than to lock up 1 innocent person. Women may be afraid to initially report the rape to authorities, but in accusing someone years after it allegedly happened, it takes away a man’s ability to defend himself and just becomes a “who do you believe” scenario. So when there are false accusations, that is the worst thing that can happen for actual rape victims everywhere.

Studies vary, and they give a range of false accusations of about 2% to about 40%.

 

[BadMoFo]

She never filed a police complaint. Letting this case play out, but that definitely doesn't help her.

Antonio Brown Rape Accuser Did Not File Criminal Complaint, Cops Say

 

[ivanvamp]

I think what's being asserted is that morality in and of itself is largely relative and thus arbitrary, at least across human made belief systems.

I don't think this is really the place for a conversation about absolute/relative (or subjective/objective) morality. Neither I, nor the poster I was supporting, were talking about morality really. Just that certain actions come with increased possibility of bad things happening. Having many sexual partners is one of those things.

 

[mgcolby]

I don't know if I've ever gone from being so stoked to so unstoked so quickly in my life.

Guessing you never scored a hooker with a ****...

I couldn't resist...tone deaf etc... I know but it made me laugh.

 

[EddardSnow67]

I don't think this is really the place for a conversation about absolute/relative (or subjective/objective) morality. Neither I, nor the poster I was supporting, were talking about morality really. Just that certain actions come with increased possibility of bad things happening. Having many sexual partners is one of those things.

Agreed.

 

[Kdo5]

I don't know if I've ever gone from being so stoked to so unstoked so quickly in my life.

Umm...deflate gate? Remember that one?

 

[Betterthanmost]

This is a serious allegation, but I am numbed to negative media attention to my team thanks to the various gates. I actually find it funny. I just don't want us to do something as stupid and rash as the Chiefs did with Hunt.
Cut him or suspend him by yourself and it only hurts you. We will not get any points from those who are not with us already. When the dust settles and he can still play football, someone out there will come on TV and says they are giving him a second chance BS.

 

[maust]

I clarified my point to better capture my ideas. If I assumed something about your perspective that was untrue, fine, I apologize -- explain your perspective and why you disagree with mine.

I inferred nothing about my perspective other than what I stated, that yours in referring to marriage as 'just a label' was very poorly thought out. So I guess you could say my 'perspective' is that yours could use some work. You compounded the error by reading between lines that were single spaced in terms of what someone else might 'seem to be referring to.'

 

[catent]

I don't think this is really the place for a conversation about absolute/relative (or subjective/objective) morality. Neither I, nor the poster I was supporting, were talking about morality really. Just that certain actions come with increased possibility of bad things happening. Having many sexual partners is one of those things.

The original post that started this entire discussion specifically mentioned morality, which is why the discussion has occurred within that context.

I know this sounds old fashioned but sex outside marriage was not always socially acceptable and never morally acceptable for many good reasons. When you choose to sleep around and many of us have, there are consequences. By following a moral code, you can usually avoid these kinds of things.