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Colts sign Brian Hoyer to a 3 year deal

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Why’s that? Didn’t we trade Brissett for Dorset when the feelings were more raw?

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That was before Mcdaniels spurned them
Their GM said that trade is actually want mended the fences then Mcdaniels knocked the fence down with a giant hammer.
 
The Brissett/Dorsett trade came before the whole Josh debacle. Even Ballard said the rivalry is back on.

Ah, gotcha. Yup.

NE has curb stomped that franchise so many times, I’ve lost count.

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the rivalry is back on.

Indy's results VS pats since 2010

0/04/2018 Indianapolis Colts 24 @ New England Patriots 38 L Box
10/18/2015 New England Patriots 34 @ Indianapolis Colts 27 L Box
01/18/2015 * Indianapolis Colts 7 @ New England Patriots 45 L Box
11/16/2014 New England Patriots 42 @ Indianapolis Colts 20 L Box
01/11/2014 † Indianapolis Colts 22 @ New England Patriots 43 L Box
11/18/2012 Indianapolis Colts 24 @ New England Patriots 59 L Box
12/04/2011 Indianapolis Colts 24 @ New England Patriots 31 L Box
11/21/2010 Indianapolis Colts 28 @ New England Patriots 31 L Box
 
That was before Mcdaniels spurned them
Their GM said that trade is actually want mended the fences then Mcdaniels knocked the fence down with a giant hammer.
I'm sure there is more to it but Ballard is being kind of childish here. BB and Krafty did their best to keep Josh and he made the decision to stay. It wasn't like they maliciously tried to screw over the Dolts (but the benefit is oh so good).

The beef is with Josh- not BB.

I think it's more of Irsay being his typical moronic self and Ballard towing the company line.
 
Indy's results VS pats since 2010

0/04/2018 Indianapolis Colts 24 @ New England Patriots 38 L Box
10/18/2015 New England Patriots 34 @ Indianapolis Colts 27 L Box
01/18/2015 * Indianapolis Colts 7 @ New England Patriots 45 L Box
11/16/2014 New England Patriots 42 @ Indianapolis Colts 20 L Box
01/11/2014 † Indianapolis Colts 22 @ New England Patriots 43 L Box
11/18/2012 Indianapolis Colts 24 @ New England Patriots 59 L Box
12/04/2011 Indianapolis Colts 24 @ New England Patriots 31 L Box
11/21/2010 Indianapolis Colts 28 @ New England Patriots 31 L Box
They whole Colts org is on opiates.
 
I'm sure there is more to it but Ballard is being kind of childish here. BB and Krafty did their best to keep Josh and he made the decision to stay. It wasn't like they maliciously tried to screw over the Dolts (but the benefit is oh so good).

The beef is with Josh- not BB.

I think it's more of Irsay being his typical moronic self and Ballard towing the company line.

That's an interesting take ... I wouldn't put it past Irsay.
 
How come we weren't able to trade him if he's receiving a 3yr $12m deal with $9m in guarantees.
Simple.
The NFL trade is a lost art.
Most NFL front office personnel do not know how to accomplish a trade and I mean all of them.
Two or three actually happened this year which was shocking.But with the increasing value of every Draft pick as "wampum", it's not like the glory days of the NFL where trades were exciting and game changers.
Now it's "how many picks you gonna give me".

The MLB still holds some intrigue with the trade deadline.

NFL GM's forfeit another venue to make their Teams better by ignoring straight player trades. NFL GM's grade on trades......"F".

Clowney to the Skins for Trent Williams would have been a better trade partner for BOB. Instead they got fleeced. Then Flores zapped him big time.

Why? The Belichick Theorem. So and so Team are going to get me like the Pats do. The Pats took Gerri Green from the Colts. Yes he was a waiver wire FA, but they could have made that simple trade Sat. They could have lost him. Just sayin....
DW Toys
 
That's an interesting take ... I wouldn't put it past Irsay.
Clearly Ballard was embarrassed by Josh. However he is a moron for not having a signed contract in place before having a press conference. Idiot.

I get the reasons why he would have an axe to grind with Josh.
 
Damn. $9 million guaranteed to Brian Hoyer......

Luck’s sudden retirement really caused a nervous breakdown in Indy.

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Simple.
The NFL trade is a lost art.
Most NFL front office personnel do not know how to accomplish a trade and I mean all of them.
Two or three actually happened this year which was shocking.But with the increasing value of every Draft pick as "wampum", it's not like the glory days of the NFL where trades were exciting and game changers.
Now it's "how many picks you gonna give me".

The MLB still holds some intrigue with the trade deadline.

NFL GM's forfeit another venue to make their Teams better by ignoring straight player trades. NFL GM's grade on trades......"F".

Clowney to the Skins for Trent Williams would have been a better trade partner for BOB. Instead they got fleeced. Then Flores zapped him big time.

Why? The Belichick Theorem. So and so Team are going to get me like the Pats do. The Pats took Gerri Green from the Colts. Yes he was a waiver wire FA, but they could have made that simple trade Sat. They could have lost him. Just sayin....
DW Toys

I'm trying to imagine this post without the added context of the many trade ideas you've come up with.
 
I'm sure there is more to it but Ballard is being kind of childish here. BB and Krafty did their best to keep Josh and he made the decision to stay. It wasn't like they maliciously tried to screw over the Dolts (but the benefit is oh so good).

The beef is with Josh- not BB.

I think it's more of Irsay being his typical moronic self and Ballard towing the company line.

Maybe some, but Indy needed a QB because I believe Luck blindsided them by retiring.

Brisset just doesnt do it for me. Hoyer played real good for the Browns until he go wacked running the ball and landed on IR.
 
And so....my ignominy is compete.

.......And now comes the ANGER! WTF, Bill? If you knew that you were going to cut Hoyer, WHY in God's name didn't you try and get at least SOME value for him. You mean to tell me you couldn't have gotten at least a 5th or 6th rounder. Christ, you paid that much for 2 fatties that would have been cut if you hadn't grabbed them. You're telling me that a QB to a needy team like the Colts wouldn't have gotten you MORE.

Sorry but while we owe Bill a LOT for the last 20 years, occasionally even he makes mistakes, and in the great scheme of things this isn't even a big one. Just seems like a waste to me.
I've been saying there was never going to be a trade with the Colts. Looks like BB did Hoyer a favor by releasing him knowing the Colts were very interested. Sure Patriots were also interested, but like so many other times, they wouldn't compete.
 
Good for Hoyer. He’s the type of guy that I root for. Humble, tries his best, selfless. He has never ever complained about anything publicly. I’m sure he has private frustrations as a pro. But he’s won a ring and now he will cap off a pretty good career for a journeyman QB financially set. I just hope he doesn’t get killed by his O line in Indy.
 
Glad for Hoyer. Feel bad he’s stuck in Indy, but I’d have never guessed he'd touch 9M guaranteed.

I would think this is worth more than a 6th rounder : BB is showing vets all over the league that he treats experienced players well and the publicity is worth more than a low pick. It might sway a FA or two in 2020 or 2021. It continues the narrative of “BB won’t throw you under the bus, if you do your job, you get respect”.
 
It’s fine. Colts can have all our discarded QBs.
 
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