Brady contract situation (Merged - UPDATED:Deal Done)

[shmessy]

I’m not sure I follow the Gisele part in this context

He's married to her. She does a voice in the matter. She's on public record complaining several times that she is concerned for his health. It's pretty obvious:



and then there was this......

Jay Feely: Gisele Bundchen wanted me to convince Tom Brady to retire last year


Folks - - these are objective (not subjective) facts. Gisele said those words in a national interview. Jay Feely stated what happened in another conversation with Gisele a year later. Feely and Brady remain close friends. Gisele and Brady remain married. This isn't some Tom Curran or Mike Giardi opining about something from the cheap seats. This is the subjects and close friends of the subjects actually making first person statements.

There's simply no comparison of levels of gravity between the two. I'm sorry folks, but Felger/Mazz, Giardi/Curran, etc. are not the equivalent of Gisele and Feely in this matter. It is what it is. The fact that these two instances actually slipped out of Feely and Bundchen says more about the internal pressure than anything. My opinion (and yes, it is only opinion, but it seems pretty damn clear) is that there is no way in hell Gisele will accept Brady going to another situation (that, by the way doesn't have Scar coaching his OL) to play for a team that has used a lot of its cap up on him at the expense of the teammates that he relies on for protection.....at the age of 43. He's not Drew Brees - - - he hasn't been scammed out of tens of millions in a diamond jewelry deal and isn't hard up for the money.

Time will tell, but I see no way that Brady ever wears another NFL team's uniform in a real NFL game. Ever.

There are three real-world options:

1) He retires soon after this year, pissed off at the Patriots/Belichick and he a BB spend the next few decades awkwardly avoiding each other at NFL ceremonies (a la BB/Parcells a few years ago or BB/Mangini or BB with many other people - - advantage BB in the experience dept there)
2) He retires in 2-3 years after winning another Super Bowl or two and goes out in a blaze of glory and grins
3) He suffers a career ending injury or his body just cannot take anymore punishment a la Gronk

Tom's dad was prescient when he said several years ago that it probably won't end well. Get used to it - - it probably won't, but we all hope it does.

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[rochrist]

There's a paywall, as there is with the Athletic, to which I subscribe. Miguel knows more about contracts, etc. than anyone, obviously.

Yeah, I left the link because a) some of their stuff is kept free, and b) some people are subscribers.

 

[rochrist]

According to Reiss the 2020 and 2021 cap hits are so high (almost $37 and $39mil respectively) precisely in order to give them headroom to renegotiate lower before the contract voids.

This. Although it isn't the cap hit that is the governing factor, it's the salary.

 

[mgteich]

ISN'T SOME OF THIS SEMANTICS

The bottom line is that Brady is a free agency in March, unless the team gives him so much that he won't consider listening to offers from other teams. And, like anyone else, he can start listening in the legal tampering period in the last couple of days of the 2019 season. This is much, much different than deciding in August.

1) Obviously, if Brady and the patriots agree on a new contract, they can execute it on the day after this season ends, and Brady becomes a free agent. Such a contract could be structured in lots of ways. The only requirement is that there will be $14M or so from the old contract in the contract that starts in 2020, after the current contract voids.

2) There is some dispute with regard to whether a new contract can be signed and executed before the end of the 2019 contract year. I don't see how that matters much. If the parties want to make such an agreement, it will be agreed to and executed; when doesn't matter much.

3) The team has exactly zero leverage. They could make the empty threat that an offer made won't be there if Brady waits until free agency.

4) Brady can see offers from other teams in the legal tampering period, or wait, just like any other player. except that he cannot be franchised or transitioned.
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Several have posted that the situation is no different than this year. Well, in this year, the decision was made in the month before the season starts. Next year, it must be made in March, before free agency starts; otherwise Brady will be free to listen to offers from everyone.

 

[rochrist]

ISN'T THIS ALL SEMANTICS/
1) Obviously, if Brady and the patriots agree on a new contract, they can execute it on the day after this season ends, and Brady becomes a free agent. Such a contract could be structured in lots of ways. The only requirement is that there will be $14M or so from the old contract in the contract that starts in 2020, after the current contract voids.

2) There is some dispute with regard to whether a new contract can be signed and executed before the end of the 2019 contract year. I don't see how that matters much. If the parties want to make such an agreement, it will be agreed to and executed; when doesn't matter much.

3) The team has exactly zero leverage. They could make the empty threat that an offer made won't be there if Brady waits until free agency.

4) Brady can see offers from other teams in the legal tampering period, or wait, just like any other player. except that he cannot be franchised or transitioned.
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Several have posted that the situation is no different than this year. Well, in this year, the decision was made in the month before the season starts. Next year, it must be made in March, before free agency starts; otherwise Brady will be free to listen to offers from everyone.

Or they can renegotiate before it ever gets to that point.

 

[Ivan]

Guess I should just enjoy the season.

 

[mgteich]

OK, I'll play.

If the team were willing to give Brady a 2020 contract that was acceptable to him, that contract would be signed by now.

Why would there even be negotiations during the season? The team seems want to wait for a guarantee of a healthy 2020 Brady, without diminished ability. So, sure the team might be interested in January or February. But, having taken the injury risk (and decline in ability risk), why would Brady not wait until March? It would do him no good to sign in January or February. If there are to be negotiations, Brady need not be arguing with regard to what another team might pay him. He can simply wait.
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If Brady is healthy and at about the same skill level as now, I would think that 2 years for $70M COULD be his 2010-2021 contract for someone. Theoretically, the patriots just signed a 2 year extension that would give him $70M if he played for the conditions of the contract.

Or they can renegotiate before it ever gets to that point.

 

[Ivan]

At least they didn’t light a fire under his ass. That would be a terrible thing.

 

[shmessy]

At least they didn’t light a fire under his ass. That would be a terrible thing.

BB, master psychologist.

 

[SHOWTIME15]

If this his last year, let’s make it count...19-0

 

[aluminum seats]

You are missing that Brady being unhappy about it isn’t real.

Well then, that’s a relief. I just saw quotes that said “it is what it is, whoever said that” or something, which didn’t sound like a happy quote.

 

[BlueThunder]

 

[aluminum seats]

He's married to her. She does a voice in the matter. She's on public record complaining several times that she is concerned for his health. It's pretty obvious:



and then there was this......

Jay Feely: Gisele Bundchen wanted me to convince Tom Brady to retire last year


Folks - - these are objective (not subjective) facts. Gisele said those words in a national interview. Jay Feely stated what happened in another conversation with Gisele a year later. Feely and Brady remain close friends. Gisele and Brady remain married. This isn't some Tom Curran or Mike Giardi opining about something from the cheap seats. This is the subjects and close friends of the subjects actually making first person statements.

There's simply no comparison of levels of gravity between the two. I'm sorry folks, but Felger/Mazz, Giardi/Curran, etc. are not the equivalent of Gisele and Feely in this matter. It is what it is. The fact that these two instances actually slipped out of Feely and Bundchen says more about the internal pressure than anything. My opinion (and yes, it is only opinion, but it seems pretty damn clear) is that there is no way in hell Gisele will accept Brady going to another situation (that, by the way doesn't have Scar coaching his OL) to play for a team that has used a lot of its cap up on him at the expense of the teammates that he relies on for protection.....at the age of 43. He's not Drew Brees - - - he hasn't been scammed out of tens of millions in a diamond jewelry deal and isn't hard up for the money.

Time will tell, but I see no way that Brady ever wears another NFL team's uniform in a real NFL game. Ever.

There are three real-world options:

1) He retires soon after this year, pissed off at the Patriots/Belichick and he a BB spend the next few decades awkwardly avoiding each other at NFL ceremonies (a la BB/Parcells a few years ago or BB/Mangini or BB with many other people - - advantage BB in the experience dept there)
2) He retires in 2-3 years after winning another Super Bowl or two and goes out in a blaze of glory and grins
3) He suffers a career ending injury or his body just cannot take anymore punishment a la Gronk

Tom's dad was prescient when he said several years ago that it probably won't end well. Get used to it - - it probably won't, but we all hope it does.

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Gotcha. Him not signing because of the wife doesn’t mean he’s not unhappy but if he’s not I’m glad

 

[patfanken]

Guess I should just enjoy the season.

THERE you go Ivan. That's what we ALL should do. I'm very happy with the QB situation we have right now. I mostly happy with the team. Looks like a typical Pats team with lots of very good players. We are deep in most positions and OUR question mark positions (TE, LT) are probably fewer than 90% of the rest of the league. Besides, when we look back on the years of obscene success, most of the so called question marks we have at the beginning of the season are answered positively by the end of that season.

So I for one am not going to give Tom Brady's future another moments thought. Get back to me around 3/1/2020. Hope I'm around to worry,,,,then.

 

[VectorPrime]

This stupid thing would be funny if the next two years were in any way real and not a complete fabrication.

 

[RobertWeathers]

At least they didn’t light a fire under his ass. That would be a terrible thing.

I absolutely think that is at play here.

BB knows how Tom ticks, what buttons to push and when

 

[venecol]

OK, I'll play.

If the team were willing to give Brady a 2020 contract that was acceptable to him, that contract would be signed by now.

Why would there even be negotiations during the season? The team seems want to wait for a guarantee of a healthy 2020 Brady, without diminished ability. So, sure the team might be interested in January or February. But, having taken the injury risk (and decline in ability risk), why would Brady not wait until March? It would do him no good to sign in January or February. If there are to be negotiations, Brady need not be arguing with regard to what another team might pay him. He can simply wait.
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If Brady is healthy and at about the same skill level as now, I would think that 2 years for $70M COULD be his 2010-2021 contract for someone. Theoretically, the patriots just signed a 2 year extension that would give him $70M if he played for the conditions of the contract.

The thing I don't get is how is that any different than what happened this year? In fact, he will be a year older (not when deal is cut but start of regular season). If they weren't willing to commit now why would they do it a year later? This is assuming the story he was looking for guaranteed money for multiple years and they wouldn't give it to him is true. We obviously don't have all the facts.

 

[Bradyking12]

The transition from the Brady era is going to be insufferable.

I doubt it, as long as BB is here we have nothing to worry about, what is really going to be insufferable is the transition from the BB Era imo.

 

[PatsFanInVa]

New Jersey is trash

Yes, but "everything is legal in New Jersey"

He's married to her. She does a voice in the matter. She's on public record complaining several times that she is concerned for his health. It's pretty obvious:



and then there was this......

Jay Feely: Gisele Bundchen wanted me to convince Tom Brady to retire last year.

Really rubbing it in, bringing his Dorian Gray portrait with her to the interview. Is that Ted Danson?

Careful, Arthur Blank will get all pissed off and left by his next wife. "You didn't have to go and offer all that Robert."

 

[PP2]

THERE you go Ivan. That's what we ALL should do. I'm very happy with the QB situation we have right now. I mostly happy with the team. Looks like a typical Pats team with lots of very good players. We are deep in most positions and OUR question mark positions (TE, LT) are probably fewer than 90% of the rest of the league. Besides, when we look back on the years of obscene success, most of the so called question marks we have at the beginning of the season are answered positively by the end of that season.

So I for one am not going to give Tom Brady's future another moments thought. Get back to me around 3/1/2020. Hope I'm around to worry,,,,then.

Ken,

You know this- you have been through the dark days of the early 90's. The days of Billy Sullivan, metal bleachers, Rod Rust, and **** MacPherson running onto the field with a rolled up paper in his fist looking as if he knew what he was doing.

We've enjoyed an unprecedented streak of domination and success. Twenty years, and during the salary cap era, just unheard of.

It's going to end sooner than later.

One season at a time, one game at a time is the only way to go at this point; just like tasting one last cognac, one last Havana cigar, one last steak dinner. For me if we're competitive this season, and Brady plays 16 plus games, that's just pure icing on the cake.