Kraft Orchids Case - Prosecuters Want a Tug Rule?

[everlong]

Lmao. I never liked Bend Over Bob anyhow. Though it is certainly something that will send shock waves across the team if he is forced to yield the organization to Jonathan or worse.

Fortunately we got our sixth before this came out.

I was thinking last night I'm surprised this didn't "coincidently" break Super Bowl Eve.

 

[everlong]

 

[DarrylS]

Still trying to digest these creepy stuff by Mr. Kraft, of course he will deny this occurred... judicial process dictates that.

What I do not get is that if the Police were concerned with the welfare of these Sexual Slaves, and apparently knew about this operation for 6 months.. why not do something sooner?? Why allow it to continue under the guise of an "investigation"??

There is nothing mentioned that minimizes what Kraft did, as he will suffer the consequences, however why did the police wait to rescue these women ??

 

[PatsWSB47]

Look at the bright side, now Kraft doesn't have to feel left out when it comes to Patriot scandals. Granted, this is a bit worse than Belichick and Brady cheating.

It's becoming difficult to root for these scumbags.

You have never in your life rooted for anything Patriots.

 

[DarrylS]

Well written and intelligent as expect from McCann..

If Kraft did this he is a creep, not much can be said to defend him. His denial is expected and done so on the advice of his atty's...

My question is that if Fla. Law Enforcement was so concerned about the women working there, why not act sooner?? If they had evidence of prostitution and sexual slavery early on why wait?? Charge the men involved and figure out a way to help the women and hold the owners of the spa accountable...

This is not an effort to blame the police or an effort to exonerate Mr. Kraft, just an honest question..

 

[supafly]

What I do not get is that if the Police were concerned with the welfare of these Sexual Slaves, and apparently knew about this operation for 6 months.. why not do something sooner?? Why allow it to continue under the guise of an "investigation"??

There is nothing mentioned that minimizes what Kraft did, as he will suffer the consequences, however why did the police wait to rescue these women ??

Couple of thoughts:

I’m thinking that it may have been such a large scale operation (reported to be 10 different places, I think) that they felt that it would make sense to wait. As you know, it’s not necessarily uncommon to have a 6 month investigation. We see it all of the time in major task forces with the mob, with drugs, with multi-state gun rings, etc, even though people remain at risk. Despite the cramped living conditions, it’s possible that they could have had assurance that the lives of the women weren’t in immediate danger.

If there were multiple agencies involved, as reported, there could be a larger picture that hasn’t fully developed just yet. McCann alludes to the possibility of a federal investigation since it may have gone through different states. We’ll have to see how it plays out. I do find it odd that they only released 25 names and it’s been reported by multiple sources that there could be anywhere between 165-200 arrests when all is said and done.

 

[Triumph]

I'd have to have all the evidence in front of me to know what defense he's likely to use. Hell, in the end, he may not even use a defense. He may just take a deal.

Because Kraft is GUILTY

A defense is lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. Everyone claims that they are not guilty and every lawyer says don't worry our case looks real good to win.

There is no defense.

 

[italian pat patriot]

my opinion is that is simply a grotesque situation to say the least...it is strange why a person with huge heritage goes in a potential trouble like this one

we are humans and humans are sometimes strange to predict but for sure it is an embarassing situation...

now at 77 years i expect that sooner then later J.Kraft will take the lead

after the death of Myra a 'change of course' probably inevitably arrived

many men at certain age starts to think 'different''...the 'time factor' becomes primary

i wish anyway Kraft Family all the best but i will not be surprised at all to see J.Kraft step up

 

[Triumph]

Kraft should have been doing his own whittling or ask for an escort.

 

[Joker]

Thank you Judge Stalin.....

 

[PittPatriot]

Well written and intelligent as expect from McCann..

If Kraft did this he is a creep, not much can be said to defend him. His denial is expected and done so on the advice of his atty's...

My question is that if Fla. Law Enforcement was so concerned about the women working there, why not act sooner?? If they had evidence of prostitution and sexual slavery early on why wait?? Charge the men involved and figure out a way to help the women and hold the owners of the spa accountable...

This is not an effort to blame the police or an effort to exonerate Mr. Kraft, just an honest question..

Those are good questions.
I could care less about Kraft. His foolishness embarrasses us all.
I actually just feel bad for those ladies who were “held captive.”

 

[PatsWSB47]

I wonder who the guy was that told Kraft about this place and why it was brought up in the first place? Was it someone who used it himself? Did Kraft ask someone to find a girl for him? Was he set up? Has he done this in the past?

 

[ChessToCheckers]

I don't know. I'm no Mona Lisa Vito of hand jobs, but I'm thinking that Bob has enough money to do better than a massage parlor in a Miami strip mall.

 

[ChessToCheckers]

What will we tell the children?

 

[lancerman]

Theoretically, what will be his defense?

Doesn’t really matter. You have absolutely no leverage if you publicly admit to it. You just won the prosecutors case. This is a midemeanor that gets plead down to nothing. He goes on tv and admits it and they have no incentive to not go to trial and make an example out of him.

 

[PatsWSB47]

Because Kraft is GUILTY

A defense is lipstick on a pig. It's still a pig. Everyone claims that they are not guilty and every lawyer says don't worry our case looks real good to win.

There is no defense.

Kraft may indeed be guilty but your broad paint brush convicting everyone guilty is disturbing. Lots of people have been falsely accused of crimes. There's a reason potential jurors are dismissed from duty when they automatically believe that someone must be guilty simply because they were arrested and are denying the charges......not surprising that TennisBoneHead was so quick to agree.

 

[DaBronxPats14]

Well Kraft wouldn't be the first one to say after blatant video evidence..."How do you know that was me."

I Hear That!

-R.Kelly

 

[Joker]

tennis ball head is a disturbing enough deviant sexual practice as it is....only solution would seem to be a chastity racket to the freakin' head

 

[PP2]

Might be hes just drunk with power and doesn't give a **** anymore. Could be still in some state of depression and this is how he copes.

Could be hes just a horny dude and the sex uppers start the launch sequence.

My theory on all this is based on the fact that he got married at a very young age (22). As a result he didn't get to experience the gleeful idiocy, the rampant and reckless lechery that most of us experience at that age. E.g., chasing ****y at all cost. He didn't get to explore his dark side.

So at the late age of 70 he's experiencing what most of us experience in our 20's, but more importantly making the extremely stupid mistakes most of us made at that young and excessively idealistic age. Unfortunately for him, the stakes are much higher when you're in your 70's, and you don't get away with it the same way you did when you were 20, because your slate isn't empty as it was then.

 

[Triumph]

Kraft may indeed be guilty but your broad paint brush convicting everyone guilty is disturbing. Lots of people have been falsely accused of crimes. There's a reason potential jurors are dismissed from duty when they automatically believe that someone must be guilty simply because they were arrested and are denying the charges......not surprising that TennisBoneHead was so quick to agree.

The police have video.

They are arresting Kraft on Monday. Deny what you see all you want.