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Glazer: Pats Interested in Trading For “Premium” WR


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Still, IF the Pats do trade for a "premium WR" (tomorrow), the draft-pick cost and cap hit will be far, far lower than what it would've cost to retain Cooks.

IOW, they're not getting OBJ.

I believe his salary cap hit would be pretty substantially lower than if they signed Cooks to the same contract the Rams gave him because Beckham's prorated signing bonus, which was huge, would remain on the Giants' cap. Forcing the Giants to eat that money is going to take a hefty return, however.
 
This really smells like Glazer dropping the Pats' name just so he can get clicks...what the **** is a "premium" wide receiver? IIRC Glazer was connected to some fake news r.e. a Patriots player or an "alleged" Pats target a few seasons ago...
 
I would think desean Jax will retract his trade request since fitz is starting again. He was the most vocal in lobbying to stick with fitz (and he was right).
 
This really smells like Glazer dropping the Pats' name just so he can get clicks...what the **** is a "premium" wide receiver? IIRC Glazer was connected to some fake news r.e. a Patriots player or an "alleged" Pats target a few seasons ago...

Thomas was a premium wr....3/4 years ago.
 
Hate to say it but his success may have been a product of Peyton.

No doubt his numbers become wr1 with Peyton. He was also pretty good during Tebow mania.
 
I believe his salary cap hit would be pretty substantially lower than if they signed Cooks to the same contract the Rams gave him because Beckham's prorated signing bonus, which was huge, would remain on the Giants' cap. Forcing the Giants to eat that money is going to take a hefty return, however.

Pro-rated signing bonus was $20M. That's all the Gints would "eat".

2018 salary = $1.459M, fully guaranteed ($772k remaining after today)

2019 salary = $16.75M, fully-guaranteed +$250k workout bonus
2020 salary = $14.0M, $2.75M fully-guaranteed +$250k workout bonus
2021 salary = $14.5M, +$1.0M bonus for reporting to Camp on the first day +$250k workout bonus
2022 salary = $13.75M, +$1.0M bonus for reporting to Camp on the first day +$250k workout bonus
2023 salary = $13.75M, +$1.0M bonus for reporting to Camp on the first day +$250k workout bonus

Cap hits for 2019-2023=
$17M
$14.25M
$15.75M
$15M
$15M

OBJ TOTAL = $77M = $15.4M APY

Cooks, 2019-2023 = $84M = $16.8 APY

The "premium" WR that I think the Pats would typically end up with would proably require spending no more than a 4th-rounder, would hit the 2018 cap for less than $2.5M for the next nine weeks, and would have no guarantees after the end of the 2018 season.
 
Pro-rated signing bonus was $20M. That's all the Gints would "eat".

2018 salary = $1.459M, fully guaranteed ($772k remaining after today)

2019 salary = $16.75M, fully-guaranteed +$250k workout bonus
2020 salary = $14.0M, $2.75M fully-guaranteed +$250k workout bonus
2021 salary = $14.5M, +$1.0M bonus for reporting to Camp on the first day +$250k workout bonus
2022 salary = $13.75M, +$1.0M bonus for reporting to Camp on the first day +$250k workout bonus
2023 salary = $13.75M, +$1.0M bonus for reporting to Camp on the first day +$250k workout bonus

Cap hits for 2019-2023=
$17M
$14.25M
$15.75M
$15M
$15M

OBJ TOTAL = $77M = $15.4M APY

Cooks, 2019-2023 = $84M = $16.8 APY

The "premium" WR that I think the Pats would typically end up with would proably require spending no more than a 4th-rounder, would hit the 2018 cap for less than $2.5M for the next nine weeks, and would have no guarantees after the end of the 2018 season.

It's mighty tempting, though, considering the receivers under contract past this season (or lack thereof). I'd even be willing to offer a 1st & 3rd. Extend Gordon, and that's the best 1-2 punch in the entire NFL until Brady retires.
 
I’d gladly replace Hogan for Demaryius Thomas at the same salary, but no way do we offer a high draft pick and take on his contract. He’s getting Julio Jones money. I really hope the reports on this are wrong unless Bill works some type of magic to make this make any sense whatsoever.
 
I’d gladly replace Hogan for Demaryius Thomas at the same salary, but no way do we offer a high draft pick and take on his contract. He’s getting Julio Jones money. I really hope the reports on this are wrong unless Bill works some type of magic to make this make any sense whatsoever.

These "reports" are all media speculation based on rumors coming from "league sources" .... which could mean anyone from Goodell to the first-year, unpaid intern, deputy-assistant equipment manager for the Broncos who overheard something in the hallway that passed between two guys dressed in business casual who he's never met and isn't even certain work for the team.
 
They just like playing with our emotions. Got excited about Patrick Peterson as if that was going to ever happen. I can see the need for a long term answer at WR due to expiring contracts etc., but taking on his contract would be a real “wtf” moment for me lol.
 
These "reports" are all media speculation based on rumors coming from "league sources" .... which could mean anyone from Goodell to the first-year, unpaid intern, deputy-assistant equipment manager for the Broncos who overheard something in the hallway that passed between two guys dressed in business casual who he's never met and isn't even certain work for the team.

Whoops I apparently did not reply to you but posted a new comment. Forgive me, I am new here :)
 
Here's the thing:

There aren't Mike Evans types that are available, as far as we know. And, other than those types of guys, it's not really worth spending high end draft capital AND cap space, just to get a jump on next season, or to upgrade at WR3-WR5. Edelman and Gordon are WR1 and WR2. Anyone coming in has to learn the system and then try to beat out Hogan/Dorsett for WR3/WR4 this year.

That being the case, other positions should be the area(s) of focus.
 
They just like playing with our emotions. Got excited about Patrick Peterson as if that was going to ever happen. I can see the need for a long term answer at WR due to expiring contracts etc., but taking on his contract would be a real “wtf” moment for me lol.

Actually, media people (news, sports, weather, whatever) get paid to play with our emotions. It's their job. It's much better for ratings (and advertising revenue) than boring old "facts" and a balanced, informative perspective.
 
Here's the thing:

There aren't Mike Evans types that are available, as far as we know. And, other than those types of guys, it's not really worth spending high end draft capital AND cap space, just to get a jump on next season, or to upgrade at WR3-WR5. Edelman and Gordon are WR1 and WR2. Anyone coming in has to learn the system and then try to beat out Hogan/Dorsett for WR3/WR4 this year.

That being the case, other positions should be the area(s) of focus.
I agree. My main focus would be getting getting an athletic linebacker that can help in coverage/contain the an. We are getting torched by TE’s and qb scrambles. Like the idea of getting Reddick or Bucannon from Arizona.
 
Tom Pelissero is reporting on Twitter that the Lions want at least a 4th round pick for Golden Tate.

I could live with that....
 
I agree. My main focus would be getting getting an athletic linebacker that can help in coverage/contain the an. We are getting torched by TE’s and qb scrambles. Like the idea of getting Reddick or Bucannon from Arizona.

When the Cards fired Arians and replaced him with Wilks this season, they also replaced DC James Bettcher (a 3-4 guy) with Al Holcomb (a 4-3 guy) which disrupted the roles of several existing front-seven players.

Riddick played almost exclusively on ST for the first four games of 2018. Since his "promotion" in wk-5, Riddick has played 100% of the Cards' D-snaps and, in just four games, has pretty much matched his production from his entire rookie season in 2017. He has 28 tackles, 2 sacks, 3 QBH, 4 PDs and 1 FF. He also dirt cheap on only the second year of his rookie deal. I doubt that Keim would be eager to part with him now (although I'm not sure he's the brightest bulb on the tree) .

In contrast, Bucannon - who had averaged about 76% of the D-snaps during the first four years of his career as a SS/LB hybrid in the 3-4 (and sparingly on ST) - is suddenly being used only intermittently on defense (35% of D-snaps) and extensively on ST (56% versus 13% during his first four seasons). Pretty clearly, he's been a victim of the defensive scheme change.

He may well be expendable from Keim's perspective -- especially since his 5th-year option salary (picked up a year before the coaching/scheme change) is a fully-guaranteed $8.72M. If the Pats traded for Bucannon, his remaining 2018 salary would hit the Pats' cap for about $4.6M -- a couple million too much, as things currently stand with cap space. If Keim was willing to eat that couple million by converting salary to bonus, the trade might fly.

I'd guess that the asking price for Bucannon's proven abilities might be as high as a 2nd-rounder, especially if Keim has to eat some cap to move him. The floor might be a 2019 3rd-rounder. Bucannon is UFA at the end of 2018. If other teams view him as primarily an LB, he could easily receive a contract large enough to give the Cards a 3rd-round Comp pick in 2020. So, a pick traded for him now would probably need to exceed that value.

Another potential downside for the Pats is that Bucannon could end being a half-season rental for $2.6M by pricing himself outside the Pats range in the 2019 FA market.
 
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