Congratulations World Series champion Red Sox

[RobertWeathers]

What was wrong with Sale??? Why didn't he pitch more???

Fatigued shoulder.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I don't mind a baseball thread being here, but it crosses the line when Pats fans have to be subjected to criticism from Sox fans because we might want them in the Red Sox forum where they belong. I also take exception to the Sox fan who decided to take a poke at the Pats' recent success as being less worthy than the Sox.

As for the comparisons to 2004, let me put that into perspective also. At the time in 2004 when the Pats were setting the record for most consecutive wins in the NFL (still standing) what was the talk in the media? Let me tell you. It was "Will A-Rod be coming to Boston." Pardon me if I now don't want to do cartwheels on a Pats message board about the Red Sox.

I'm happy for all of my Red Sox fan friends but I don't think that this is the place for that celebration, especially if it entails knocking down the Pats or their fans.

I don't remember much animosity between Sox and Pats fans over the years...

Only thing I can think of is, Fenway people just said "tough boogers" when the ball park was covered in snow prior to a big game against the Bills, and players and fans were helping clear it barely before the TV broadcast began.

Billy Sullivan just didn't get much love from the city.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I think there's something to be said for Alex Cora's leadership. He never seemed to get worked up about anything. I think that kind of quiet cool works well with baseball players.

This. I think a lot of Sox fans checked out, but not this team.

Outstanding team chemistry started from the top this season.

I hope Cora has a long, long career here.

In '13, the whole team was furious about 2012. They just needed a guy to not screw it up, and Farrell was perfect for them.

 

[bormio]

This is a joke.

Well ...... Houston IS the perfect team.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

The '27 Yankees were 110-44 in the regular season and sept the WS 4-0, final rec 114-44

The '18 Red Sox were 108-54 in the regular season and won the WS 4-1, final rec 119-57

So they aren't the '27 Yankees but they are not that far off.

Murderers' Row:

Earle Combs.............. .356
Mark Koenig.............. .285
Babe Ruth.................. .356
Lou Gehrig................. .373
Bob Meusel................ .337
Tony Lazzeri.............. .309

 

[jah]

Come on

It's not clear and I don't know how smart you are.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I’m a Dodgers fan and that was a tough blow. Roberts was the Red Sox MVP. Pulling Rich Hill in game 4 when he had the Red Sox on the ropes was unbelievable. Apparently, there was a lot boos when he walked out to take out Hill. LA times trashed Roberts after that debacle.

Also couldn’t believe how many f***ing times the Sox scored with two outs. Dodgers has their chances but choked. Don’t even get me started on Kershaw.

I know we're partial to Dave, for good reason, around here, but he is a good manager, as Cora said.

He might have kept Rich in there longer, but the guy was just amazing and you couldn't expect him to keep it up forever. The only thing I can think of outside of that is, we'd seen some totally amazing performances in the marathon, and maybe you try to call upon your guys to keep it up.

The Dodgers are a very good team that tried hard. Even if Hill pitched another three great innings, they were overmatched - just like the Yankees and Astros.

Making it to two straight Series is an impressive achievement. Win or lose.

 

[fourhour]

I heard scuttlebutt that Hill offered the ball to Roberts without being asked. I would think that he was saying he knew he was done?

 

[scout]

I’m a Dodgers fan and that was a tough blow. Roberts was the Red Sox MVP. Pulling Rich Hill in game 4 when he had the Red Sox on the ropes was unbelievable. Apparently, there was a lot boos when he walked out to take out Hill. LA times trashed Roberts after that debacle.

Also couldn’t believe how many f***ing times the Sox scored with two outs. Dodgers has their chances but choked. Don’t even get me started on Kershaw.

No way. Even if a Dodger's manager made all the right moves, the Dodgers do not beat the Red Sox. If Pierce isn't the MVP, then it's Price.

 

[Tunescribe]

I don't know, but his daughter is going to be pretty, pretttttty, prettaaayyyy cute when she gets older.

Maybe, but she'll be boring as hell.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I'm always amazed at how early managers take out pitchers who are having success. The Hill example was one of those. I think it all stems from the way pitchers are not allowed to stay in games as long now. It's very hard to imagine a pitcher going 14 innings now like Ruth did in the early days.

d%#*!@t, why the hell did Johnson take him out? for Jim Burton?!

 

[PatsDeb]

I’m a Dodgers fan and that was a tough blow. Roberts was the Red Sox MVP. Pulling Rich Hill in game 4 when he had the Red Sox on the ropes was unbelievable. Apparently, there was a lot boos when he walked out to take out Hill. LA times trashed Roberts after that debacle.

Also couldn’t believe how many f***ing times the Sox scored with two outs. Dodgers has their chances but choked. Don’t even get me started on Kershaw.

Yeah, that was a real head scratcher. I read somewhere that when Roberts went out to the mound he only wanted to talk to Hill, but Hill thought he was out (as Roberts never came out just to talk to him) so Hill handed him the ball and left the mound and Roberts didn't say anything. Say what now?! It's the friggin World Series! Oh and thanks for Madsen!

 

[PatsDeb]

Is this sarcasm? It should be.

Not to Joe Montana it isn't (to everyone else, well...)

 

[bormio]

I heard scuttlebutt that Hill offered the ball to Roberts without being asked. I would think that he was saying he knew he was done?

He did - when he saw Roberts out there, he gave him the ball because Roberts always took him out when he came to the mound in the past. Roberts said that was not his intention, but when Hill gave him the ball, that settled it. Bad communication?

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

The 04 series with the Yankees was the most emotionally draining ('86 too but in a different way) professional sports series i've watched. Not trying to be a, "I was there guy" but I was at G3, 4 and 5 and was just wiped out after that series. Late nights. Emotional highs...crazy.

That weekend home stand at Fenway has to still be the record for longest three games...ever, never mind playoffs.

The first three games of this series were just weird. It looked like I was out there tossing BP in a Curt Schilling uniform. Everything was just going wrong.

I don't know how you felt after Game 3, but I just felt too perplexed to feel despair. I just felt, um, well, it's never been done in history, so...it could happen. Technically.

But, strategically, I felt just like Millar. If we won Game 4, then...anything could happen.

Two things: The Yankees were, as usual, very, very good.

And those Games 4 & 5 were stuffed with crucial pitches and situations, all with the season in the balance for us. It was heart attack material for two days. From Tony Clark's drive bouncing into the stands for a ground rule double, to Varitek bobbling every single pitch from Wakefield, whom he of course did not regularly catch.

To me the guy with the most pressure on him was Derek Lowe. Fortunately, he possesses a pretty easy going attitude. What an incredible trade that was with the Mariners, one of the greatest ever.

 

[Gronkowski123]

Fatigued shoulder.

Softie

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

I only wish I could be that comfortable during the Patriots next Super Bowl game.

I'm thinking of taking a sedative before kickoff in Atlanta.

Seriously.

EDIT: Oh, and congrats to Mookie for finally contributing something in the World Series. He saved his best for last.

He avoided going Hitless In Hollywood

 

[Patsfanin Philly]

I'll take the Pats 5 SB wins and 8 AFC titles in 17 years (with a salary cap) over the Sox 4 WS wins and 4 AL titles in 15 years (without a salary cap) any time. Patsfans.com is a very bad place to make such a cherry-picked statement.

And the Red Sox were sub .500 for 3 of the last seven seasons with a few last place finishes in there. "I'll take the Patriots consistency for $2000 Alex......." ( other Alex, not Cora)

 

[Run DMC]

Murderers' Row:

Earle Combs.............. .356
Mark Koenig.............. .285
Babe Ruth.................. .356
Lou Gehrig................. .373
Bob Meusel................ .337
Tony Lazzeri.............. .309

Batting against garbage pitching. Yankees were like the Harlem globetrotters back then. Playing against zero competition.

 

[Actual Pats Fan]

Yeah, that was a real head scratcher. I read somewhere that when Roberts went out to the mound he only wanted to talk to Hill, but Hill thought he was out (as Roberts never came out just to talk to him) so Hill handed him the ball and left the mound and Roberts didn't say anything. Say what now?! It's the friggin World Series! Oh and thanks for Madsen!

Fave Sox teams, post-Babe:

1. 1967
2. 2004
3. 1986
4. 2013
5. 1975
6. 1946
7. 2018
8. 2007
9. 2003
10. 1977
11. 1978
12. 1988