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Will Tom and/or Gronk join the team for OTAs Today?

  • both will attend

    Votes: 7 9.7%
  • Tom yes Gronk no

    Votes: 2 2.8%
  • Tom no Gronk yes

    Votes: 7 9.7%
  • no Tom no Gronk

    Votes: 56 77.8%

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You rest my case. How different things would be if no tuck rule call and no Adam Vinatieri in the Snowbowl. And let's not even talk about those game winning kicks in the SB's.
The fact that you so easily dismiss a MAJOR contributor in 3 out of the 5 championships makes MY point about shallow Patriot pinkhats. Thank you!!!

I think it is news to the board that championships come down to one game. How does the team even get to the SB?
 
IF, IF, IF. Some of you "fans" wouldn't even be fans of the Patriots if it weren't for Brady. Yes it takes a whole team but there's one constant as far as players go. You don't know what you got till it's gone.
 
You rest my case. How different things would be if no tuck rule call and no Adam Vinatieri in the Snowbowl. And let's not even talk about those game winning kicks in the SB's.
The fact that you so easily dismiss a MAJOR contributor in 3 out of the 5 championships makes MY point about shallow Patriot pinkhats. Thank you!!!
So if the rule weren’t the rules things would be different?
Saying a kicker ISNT AS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE DYNASTY AS THE GOAT QB isn’t easily dismissing the kicker it’s easily dismissing the stupidity of your statement.
 
You rest my case. How different things would be if no tuck rule call and no Adam Vinatieri in the Snowbowl. And let's not even talk about those game winning kicks in the SB's.
The fact that you so easily dismiss a MAJOR contributor in 3 out of the 5 championships makes MY point about shallow Patriot pinkhats. Thank you!!!
And he was a MAJOR contributor to 1. (Actually 1 Game) He made a typical kicker contribution in 2 others.
 
You rest my case. How different things would be if no tuck rule call and no Adam Vinatieri in the Snowbowl. And let's not even talk about those game winning kicks in the SB's.
The fact that you so easily dismiss a MAJOR contributor in 3 out of the 5 championships makes MY point about shallow Patriot pinkhats. Thank you!!!
How different things would be if the refs ruled against an actual rule and a field goal kicker kicked a field goal BRADY drove the team within range. You rest your case on that?
 
You are kidding me, Tedy refused to slam Brady in public?? Color me shocked! Shocked!!! Come on Kon, you can do better than that can't you??
Why would anyone want to slam Tom Brady for anything?
 
I'm in wait and see mode but if "Team First Tom" morphs into "Me First Tom".....oh boy.

As a pre-appetizer: It's May 21.....kids are in school. The "spend more time with the family" cliche won't fly
Kids don’t spend 24 hours in school.
 

this is important because it's Brady drawing a line in the sand. He's basically daring BB to bench him.

Gronk will show up once they finalize the contract on the 24th, but Brady probably wont show up til mandatory camp.

So we see how true to his principles BB is. Since he's so keen on only playing players that show up, on time, does he treat brady differently, sending a message to the roster that some players ARE above the law, or does he fold and start Brady, because brady is obviously the best.

interesting stuff, get your popcorn ready 2018 is going to be a hurricane of a season.
 
I'll consider being concerned if Brady cancels his Montana passing camp.
 
My answer to the OP's question, in the case of Tom Brady, is "I don't care."

With eight SB appearances and five SB wins (plus the MVP's and dominant stats, etc., etc., etc.), Tom Brady has earned the right to make his own decisions about voluntary activities and (just about) anything else, as long as he shows up when he has to show up and continues to deliver on the field.

We are all free to feel however we might about anything he does, but as long as the reigning NFL MVP continues to deliver on the field, how any of us "feels" about it is irrelevant, especially when we have no idea what might or might not be going on in his life or behind the scenes.

I can't wait until Training Camp. How about the rest of you?
 
My answer to the OP's question, in the case of Tom Brady, is "I don't care."

With eight SB appearances and five SB wins (plus the MVP's and dominant stats, etc., etc., etc.), Tom Brady has earned the right to make his own decisions about voluntary activities and (just about) anything else, as long as he shows up when he has to show up and continues to deliver on the field.

We are all free to feel however we might about anything he does, but as long as the reigning NFL MVP continues to deliver on the field, how any of us "feels" about it is irrelevant, especially when we have no idea what might or might not be going on in his life or behind the scenes.

I can't wait until Training Camp. How about the rest of you?
Pretty much exactly how I feel about it.
 


If this continues BB & co either need to totally limit contact with Guerrero to each players spare time or try to incorporate him into the Pats staff. This middleground **** is not working and will produce ever bigger issues down the line if more players join the revolution against the strength and conditioning staff.
 
My answer to the OP's question, in the case of Tom Brady, is "I don't care."

With eight SB appearances and five SB wins (plus the MVP's and dominant stats, etc., etc., etc.), Tom Brady has earned the right to make his own decisions about voluntary activities and (just about) anything else, as long as he shows up when he has to show up and continues to deliver on the field.

We are all free to feel however we might about anything he does, but as long as the reigning NFL MVP continues to deliver on the field, how any of us "feels" about it is irrelevant, especially when we have no idea what might or might not be going on in his life or behind the scenes.

I can't wait until Training Camp. How about the rest of you?

Of course it doesn't matter in the big picture in terms of his performance. At the same time we don't have to talk about Brady being the epitome of a team first player anymore because if anything he has proven that when push comes to shove he does care about other things more than "the team". Which is fine and his right.. but lets bury this myth.
 
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