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Patriots trade for 49er's OT Trent Brown

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Seems like BB finally realized Brady has been getting abused back there.

Brady was abused when he put up 500 yards in the super bowl and still lost the game lol.
 
Can some smart folks give me the most likely OL(s) based on who we now have?

Cannon / Thuney / Andrews / Mason / Brown or Waddle

gonna play the wishbone
 
Very happy to pick up a mid round pick. This is good value. Interesting trade -- I don't think the full picture is finished yet. We may see more player movement, both coming and going.
I think they move Cannon to LT, Wynn at LG, Andrews at C, Mason at RG, Brown at RT.

That leaves Thuney the odd man out. I think they trade him.
 
Not sure if posted but this is interesting..

After being asked in an interview to name the blocker that gives him the most trouble, Denver Broncos' defensive lineman and Super Bowl MVP Von Miller said, "I feel like Trent Brown has a very bright future in the National Football League. He's 6-foot-8. He knows how to use his arms, knows how to use his wingspan and he has length. So I feel like he's young and people haven’t really seen him, but I feel like he’s one of the better tackles in the National Football League."
On August 16, 2017, Miller made a similar remark about Brown to the San Francisco Chronicle after the Broncos and 49ers had a joint practice, stating: "He's the best right tackle in the National Football League! And he may even be a top-five tackle, period, in the National Football League. There’s not another tackle who’s that tall, that big and can move the way he moves.”[12]
 
Not sure if posted but this is interesting..

I know 49ers fans are in full damage control mode right now, but they're downplaying this by saying they're close friends.
 
I wouldn’t pay Solder what he got with 100 million in cap space.

Exactly. I don't care what position it is or how important, if I'm going to make a player the highest paid at his position, I better be able to make a case that he's truly the best, or at the very least, top 3. Solder doesn't come close to that.
 
I think they move Cannon to LT, Wynn at LG, Andrews at C, Mason at RG, Brown at RT.

That leaves Thuney the odd man out. I think they trade him.

Mason is a FA after this year, and most of the others (including Brown) are on one-year deals. I don't want to solve one problem and create another in the process.
 
We are really stocking up the offense:

OUT: Cooks, Solder, Lewis, and Amendola.

IN: Wynn, Michel, Brown, Hill, and Patterson.

Not so crazy about this trade, but expected us to flip one of our 2nd/3rds for picks between the 4th-6th rounds. And this guy apparently is pretty good...just not crazy about him having surgery and being on the final year of his deal...then again...we gave up about 50-60 slots in the draft...not too bad..and it is never a bad thing to over stock in the trenches.
 
If they're concerned about cannon than they should have never let solder go. You can't the rookies learn on the fly.


A better question is how do you keep Solder??.. his cap hits for the next 4 years are 10 Million, 17 M, 17 M and 18 M... unless you subscribe to the "cap is crap" al a Felger..

Solder turned down the Patriots offer and chose to go to NY... maybe you do not understand the Pats economic system.
 
Exactly. I don't care what position it is or how important, if I'm going to make a player the highest paid at his position, I better be able to make a case that he's truly the best, or at the very least, top 3. Solder doesn't come close to that.

Well in this game they overpay.I wanna see if they made him any offers. He played well down the stretch.
 
Listen, I get that there are plenty of other factors at play here other than just picking defense for the hell of it. But with us finishing at the bottom of the league and getting spanked on the biggest stage of the game, I was hoping for a more aggressive approach to defense. You can't tell me we have a better or equal chance of drafting a defensive player that is capable of helping the team in its most dire positions (LB, edge defender, possibly secondary) in the 2nd and 3rd rounds than we have in the 1st round, especially with our draft capital. That's not to say OL and RB weren't needs and that the picks were a waste or awful, just that IMO (and the opinion of plenty others) it wasn't as critical of a need as fixing a defense that allowed 40+ points in their first and last game of the season

What I'm saying is that generalizations about the draft simply don't work.

First of all, there's just way too much variability position-to-position and year-to-year. The "best" ILBs or CBs or OTs who are left on the board when the Pats pick in a given year may totally suck compared to those who may be available in the next draft, or at least, may be no better for the Pats than guys who would be available a round or two later - in that particular draft.

Secondly, it's pretty clear that the Pats view the value of prospects differently than the media "draft experts" do. For example, they're constantly mocking "elite pass-rusher" prospects to the Pats in the first round who are one-trick ponies who absolutely suck at run-D - because that's the kind of player that most other teams seem to want. Edge prospects who are solid run-defenders, but not great pass-rushers are the guys who get pushed down into the 2nd and 3rd, but those are precisely the guys who fit the Pats' schemes the best.

So, in this draft, it may well be that the prospects they could've chosen at #23 and #31 wouldn't have helped "fix" the problems with the defense any more than the prospects who will likely still be available at #43, #63 and #95, whereas Wynn and Michel may be way more capable of fixing/improving things on the offensive side of the ball than the prospects who will be available later.

However, applying the generalization to this particular draft and the Pats specific roster situations this year, the Pats perhaps wouldn't have helped the defense any more than they still can, and, in so doing, may have passed on maybe the best guys to make improvements on the offense.

Given that the biggest problem in 2017 was the run-D, and the the primary sources of the problem were (A) a lack of healthy bodies, and (B), a severe lack of NFL experience among the guys who were healthy, it's entirely possible that there were very few defensive prospects available in the draft who could fix much of that to begin with.
 
A better question is how do you keep Solder??.. his cap hits for the next 4 years are 10 Million, 17 M, 17 M and 18 M... unless you subscribe to the "cap is crap" al a Felger..

Solder turned down the Patriots offer and chose to go to NY... maybe you do not understand the Pats economic system.

I understand it clearly dude. I don't know what they offered him. All I know is that they wasted all these picks focusing on the OL when this defense gave up 41 freaking points in the super bowl!
 
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