Official Free Agency 2018

[maineman209]

Have Hill and Tobin's contract details been released? Do we have any space left?

No $$ details yet for Hill, but Reiss reported this morning that Hill's contract is just 1 year.

Tobin's is also 1-year, and likely to be the minimum salary for his 5 years accrued = $790k ... minus any Veteran Minimum Salary Benefit (if there is one at that level).

We don't know Clayborn's 2018 cap hit yet.

So, $15.66M (Miguel's number) minus whatever those 2018 cap hits are.

And they still need to set aside $2.5M-$3.0M for rookies, plus another $6M or more for in-season emergencies, adjustments, extensions, and NLTBE incentives (of which there are likely to be quite a few involving weekly roster bonuses). That leaves between $6.0M and $6.5M in usable cap space.

With Hill and Clayborn each being likely to hit the 2018 cap for between $2.5M-$3.0M, at the moment, it's probably close to zero usable cap space.

 

[maineman209]

If HOU front is finally healthy . they can make him look like the best DB around again (despite Lombardi questioning him as top player after injury). And then he'll go to the bank..

Yeah, well. With it being only a 1-year deal, it's more like a "low introductory rate" offer on a credit card, or an ARM on a house.

 

[maineman209]

This is pretty funny ...

 

[manxman2601]

I'd guess it's pretty close.

Next up: Karras, followed by whatever 7th-round or UDFA OG Scar picks out of the crowd this April.

I think B.B. might pay Shaq. I hope so.

 

[Uptown]

 

[maineman209]

Appears to be "short term", likely meaning 1 year.

Chung's 2018 cap hit was $3.8M, including $2M in salary. His 2018 minimum for 9 accrued seasons is $915k. So, unless the Pats re-arrange some of the other bonus terms, the net reduction would be only about $1M. IOW, probably more reward than a cap space move.

 

[Wozzy]

How about Jeff Janis or Markus Wheaton at WR?

Ebron or Troy Niklas if healthy at TE would be intriguing?

Cameron and/or Fleming back at Tackle?

Kevin Pierre-Louis intrigues me at LB?

We almost traded midseason for Damien Williams at RB, invite him to compete in camp?

How about we restructure Gronk and Brady fast to give ourselves some relief, then extend Cooks and others?

 

[Uptown]

....Ok Kenny Vaccaro...you can come out now...

 

[Love The Drake]

Let's go get Suh!

 

[Uptown]

 

[maineman209]

How about Jeff Janis or Markus Wheaton at WR?

Ebron or Troy Niklas if healthy at TE would be intriguing?

Cameron and/or Fleming back at Tackle?

Kevin Pierre-Louis intrigues me at LB?

We almost traded midseason for Damien Williams at RB, invite him to compete in camp?

How about we restructure Gronk and Brady fast to give ourselves some relief, then extend Cooks and others?

Hoping that at least one of Fleming/Waddle gets re-signed.

Janis has been an ace special teamer. Not much of anything as a WR (17 of 38 tgts for 203 yds is the entirety of his receiving production over 4 seasons).

KPL, who I really liked coming out of Boston College, has been mostly a special-teamer, but could be a legit LB reserve.

Williams certainly seems to fit the Pats current RBBC prototype (rushing/receiving chops), and also has prolific ST experience.

I could see any or all of these guys coming to Camp as competition on low-ball contracts.

Wheaton, Ebron and Niklas I wouldn't bother with.

 

[long distance]

Lost waiting on Cousins . all-in on top 3 QB in draft
Indy got a bingo! WOW.
Moving down 3 spots where they can still get Chubb/Minkah they get 3x 2nd rounders

 

[manxman2601]

They must want Rosen or Darnold

 

[maineman209]

Do we have any space left?

Addendum to my earlier cap space assessment.

Whatever the 2018 cap hits for Clayborn, Hill and Tobin turn out to be, they'll certainly replace the current bottom three among the 51 cap hits that count. Those are:

Karras, $630k
Ferentz, $630k
Lee, $570k

So their net cap impact will be about $1.8M less, collectively.

 

[Ring 6]

Lost waiting on Cousins . all-in on top 3 QB in draft
Indy got a bingo! WOW

That’s a lot to pay to move up 3 spots.

Sanchize 2.0 on the way.

 

[Ring 6]

When the Rams came to foxboro in 2016 this guy played the worst game I’ve ever seen an nfl player play. It was so bad that in the stands watching the patriots whoop up on the rams this guy stood out to me. There were times he actually ran away from the play to avoid contact.

 

[Ring 6]

Appears to be "short term", likely meaning 1 year.

Chung's 2018 cap hit was $3.8M, including $2M in salary. His 2018 minimum for 9 accrued seasons is $915k. So, unless the Pats re-arrange some of the other bonus terms, the net reduction would be only about $1M. IOW, probably more reward than a cap space move.

Reduction would be less than that because you gave to count a portion of the money converted to signing bonus.

 

[oceansizer]

Lost waiting on Cousins . all-in on top 3 QB in draft
Indy got a bingo! WOW.
Moving down 3 spots where they can still get Chubb/Minkah they get 3x 2nd rounders

A high price for another wasted talent. Geno Smith number 2?

 

[ScottishPatriots]

Colts will still get Nelson, Barkley, Fitzpatrick or Chubb at 6 and got 3 x 2nd round picks they were going to take one of those players at 3 anyway.

No brainer for them to trade.

 

[Wozzy]

Hoping that at least one of Fleming/Waddle gets re-signed.

Janis has been an ace special teamer. Not much of anything as a WR (17 of 38 tgts for 203 yds is the entirety of his receiving production over 4 seasons).

KPL, who I really liked coming out of Boston College, has been mostly a special-teamer, but could be a legit LB reserve.

Williams certainly seems to fit the Pats current RBBC prototype (rushing/receiving chops), and also has prolific ST experience.

I could see any or all of these guys coming to Camp as competition on low-ball contracts.

Wheaton, Ebron and Niklas I wouldn't bother with.

Agreed, Janis has been only a special teamer but a very good one, the same could be said about Mike Vrabel before Bill signed him away from Pittsburgh, maybe he needs a change of scenery or system, the talent is there.

KPL took a little longer to develop, partly due to injury, but he had a good season last year with the exception of getting busted for pot. He is a BC guy and great athlete who could possibly unseat Elandon Roberts who has been unspectacular to this point.

Wheaton has hung around the league because of his athleticism, maybe he would finally emerge in our system, no harm or much money involved in kicking the tires. Ebron is more receiving TE, Niklas is more blocking TE, both are very talented but can't stay healthy. A "show me" deal for either or both doesn't hurt anymore then bringing Wheaton in, the difference is both are still fairly young.