Cavs trade away Thomas.

[Deus Irae]

I disagree on both.

Ok

 

[slam]

Edit: forgot I already posted this earlier.

 

[captain stone]

Asked about all of the moves across the NBA today, and specifically about any moves they will make in an attempt to improve their perimeter shooting, the response from the Boston Celtics front office was:

"zzzzzzzzz........."

The Cs: Still the gang that can't shoot straight.

 

[HailHydra]

The second time I read this thread I thought Joe Thomas was being traded

 

[BradyFTW!]

Asked about all of the moves across the NBA today, and specifically about any moves they will make in an attempt to improve their perimeter shooting, the response from the Boston Celtics front office was:

"zzzzzzzzz........."

The Cs: Still the gang that can't shoot straight.

They signed Greg Monroe, which was one of the bigger moves of the day went unreported since everyone knew it was going to happen. And they still have a month to see what becomes available on the buyout market and make a move. That's how they shored up their weaknesses and finalized their 2008 title team, I'm fine with them taking a similar approach here. Personally I kinda wish they would have upped their Tyreke offer to include their first rounder, but I don't think it's some kind of disaster that they weren't willing to.

This happens every trade deadline, though. If the impatient fans had their way we would have traded the picks that ended up getting us Brown, Tatum and Kyrie years ago, and we'd have Jimmy Butler and the 4th seed in the east to show for it.

 

[Froob]

Cavs basically went through their locker and threw out all the trash.

 

[Deus Irae]

They signed Greg Monroe, which was one of the bigger moves of the day went unreported since everyone knew it was going to happen. And they still have a month to see what becomes available on the buyout market and make a move. That's how they shored up their weaknesses and finalized their 2008 title team, I'm fine with them taking a similar approach here. Personally I kinda wish they would have upped their Tyreke offer to include their first rounder, but I don't think it's some kind of disaster that they weren't willing to.

This happens every trade deadline, though. If the impatient fans had their way we would have traded the picks that ended up getting us Brown, Tatum and Kyrie years ago, and we'd have Jimmy Butler and the 4th seed in the east to show for it.

Yeah, it's tough to ***** too much when they're projected #2 player is on the shelf for the year, they're relying heavily on a 19 year old rookie and a second year player who's wildly inconsistent, and they're still in first place in the conference and the favorite to get to the finals.

That said, there's always something...

 

[mosey threetupu]

This year's IT isn't anything like last year's IT, and he's been toxic in the locker room too. Pass.

Lot of if’s here and it’s too many to be possible - but IF the Lakers cut him for cap and/or an expiring contract cut the Celts might be the only team with cap space for a one year rental. this high priced. It’s crazy but if he does get cut and you’re the Celts wtf not on both sides (other than ego)?

 

[mosey threetupu]

The arguments were:

1. Regardless of the players, they didn't get enough return in the Tatum trade
2. They gave away too much in the Irving trade, because that Nets pick was a potential top pick

Neither of those has really changed, regardless of how the players have played since. That Nets pick looking lower and lower has, doubtless, eased the pain, though.

How can you possibly say they didn’t get enough in the Tatum trade? They didn’t have Tatum. They literally moved back 2 slots, got who they wanted anyway (and even if that’s BS it’s worked out beyond expectations) and got a pick.

If Jeremy Lin didn’t get hurt (yeah I know if) no way that Nets pick works out for Cleveland. It still might not.

 

[Deus Irae]

How can you possibly say they didn’t get enough in the Tatum trade?

Because they didn't get enough in the Tatum trade.

 

[mosey threetupu]

Because they didn't get enough in the Tatum trade.

Getting the best player (who they would’ve taken at 1) and an extra 1 wasn’t enough? What do you think they should’ve (realistically could’ve) done?

 

[DropKickFlutie]

Amazing to get Monroe for 5m

 

[Deus Irae]

Getting the best player (who they would’ve taken at 1) and an extra 1 wasn’t enough? What do you think they should’ve (realistically could’ve) done?

The player's irrelevant to the trade chips moved. They traded the #1 overall pick for a lower (#3) pick in the draft. They didn't trade a player, or trade for a player. They should have gotten more than a heavily protected pick as the extra in the deal. If that extra pick doesn't fall #2-#5 this year, it doesn't vest until next season, and even that has a protection on it.

 

[mosey threetupu]

Amazing to get Monroe for 5m

Agree. Celts went big for a minute last night and it worked. Albeit short sample size. I’d love to see Morris’ minutes slashes except in matchup situations.

 

[mosey threetupu]

The player's irrelevant to the trade chips moved. They traded the #1 overall pick for a lower (#3) pick in the draft. They didn't trade a player, or trade for a player. They should have gotten more than a heavily protected pick as the extra in the deal. If that extra pick doesn't fall #2-#5 this year, it doesn't vest until next season, and even that has a protection on it.

Clearly one way to look at it. The reality is they were going to pick Tatum at 1 or 3 and got an extra asset literally for nothing if Tatum was the target. Am I missing something here?

 

[mosey threetupu]

The player's irrelevant to the trade chips moved. They traded the #1 overall pick for a lower (#3) pick in the draft. They didn't trade a player, or trade for a player. They should have gotten more than a heavily protected pick as the extra in the deal. If that extra pick doesn't fall #2-#5 this year, it doesn't vest until next season, and even that has a protection on it.

Re-reading “should’ve gotten..” C’s #1 overall for?”

 

[Deus Irae]

Clearly one way to look at it. The reality is they were going to pick Tatum at 1 or 3 and got an extra asset literally for nothing if Tatum was the target. Am I missing something here?

Yes, because you're hung up on the least relevant thing of all when it comes to the trade itself, which is the player chosen, and you're even judging them way too early.

 

[DarrylS]

IT is a nice player, but always thought his value was inflated by the local media... somehow they elevated him into some sort of heroic status... IT believed what they said... problems ensue.

 

[BTTA]

The player's irrelevant to the trade chips moved. They traded the #1 overall pick for a lower (#3) pick in the draft. They didn't trade a player, or trade for a player. They should have gotten more than a heavily protected pick as the extra in the deal. If that extra pick doesn't fall #2-#5 this year, it doesn't vest until next season, and even that has a protection on it.

Except it isn't fantasy basketball. Ainge can only do trades that other teams cooperate with. Given that it is in his best interest to get the most he can, and he and Celtics brass are the only ones who know what that was, the only reasonable conclusion was he got the best deal available. If you are disappointed about what that is, that's fine, but to suggest something different should have happened is a leap without data.

 

[RobertWeathers]

Except it isn't fantasy basketball. Ainge can only do trades that other teams cooperate with. Given that it is in his best interest to get the most he can, and he and Celtics brass are the only ones who know what that was, the only reasonable conclusion was he got the best deal available. If you are disappointed about what that is, that's fine, but to suggest something different should have happened is a leap without data.

Fans always think there is a better deal than the one actually made.